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    Default Re: There's got to be a way!

    Damn Chris and I was going to come back and expound on my previous comments… think you handled that for me lol.

    Abcone23- take this stuff to heart dude. You are getting some really solid feed back here very quickly. Make sure you listen to it. Crob did a great job of explaining the first steps of becoming alpha and inner game here. When I mentioned body language and vocal tonality before this is what im talking about. The standing up straight, the “alpha” walk, making eye contact, talking to people in a clear loud voice.

    Im going to encourage you do this: go back into the rules of the game and read the sections on rejection, and inner game. I think they are within the first week. Then reread them cause its some good stuff. A lot of guys ignore this step or don’t believe that its that important, but trust me tackling you inner issues can turn you around 100%.

    Also we now know you have a lot of head knowledge about PU. But you lack field experience. SO go out! You need to go put stuff into practice. Don’t worry about if your following the steps correctly, just go out and talk to people. Smile, laugh, and have fun! This will help you build the confidence you need to be able to succeed in this. Its called social momentum. And you need some badly.

    Like Crob said before, there are great guys here who are obviously willing to help. Crob, Prjav, and myself are probably the three most active and longest posting members but that doesn’t mean we are the only ones. Yesman has been putting up some good post and so does bad medicine when he gets on the board. We will get you there, just be willing to keep at it. Its not going to be easy but youll be glad you did it.

    BTW you can always hit us up on PM or email if you need specific advise you don’t want to put out to the public.

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    Default Re: There's got to be a way!

    Wow you guys are awesome!!!! Thanks sooo much for giving me such a detailed feedback. I am sure to put this in use. I am not sure if I will be able to do all this in a couple of months, but I'll def try to do the best that I can possibly do. And even if I am still unable to get her, you know what... there will be many other girls that are gonna die to go out with me!

    btw, previously I said I was obese, but I think I'm just overweight. I'm 5'7 and 190 lbs. I want to try to get down to 170 within 2 months, which is very acheivable. also, how important do you guys think height is when going to a club and seducing women? Many times I have gone and seen too many guys who are much bigger and taller and attract way more girls than I do. I def see Cajun and Tom Cruise as great alpha males and look at them as role models, but I was still thinking of buying elevated shoes. Is that a good idea??

    I have bought proactiv and moisturizer, so hopefully my skin will clear up soon. I am so happy that people are supporting me on this journey. I went on other forums, and all they told me was to forget about her. but you guys believe in me, and I cannot thank you enough for that! I will go through the Rules of the Game workouts and actually practice them this time, and keep you guys updated!

    PS- I'm saving all the advice you have given me in a word file, just in case something happens and the posts get deleted.

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    Default Re: There's got to be a way!

    i agree. you seem like a very chill guy and down to earth and are willing to get help cause you put everything out there. thats why a lot of us regular posters want to help. we are here to help.

    if you put in the hard work you will get what you want. So trust me and tcomea here. out of everything. ur inner game is probably one of the most important. after you tackle that you will be ready to hit the ground running and will become a very good PUA in no time.

    i hope you liked that long post, it pretty much gave an in depth analysis and basic game-plan to your situation and how to make the transition from AFC to PUA.

    and yes i am more than open to helping you out. i have given my personal cell number out to chill people on the site to help them in field and all that. some i feel like they have pretty much became one of my best friends and others that hit me up for advice in field. so if you ever want help in field or just dont want to put it up for everybody to see. just PM me.

    good luck bro. you can do this. just give it lots of hard work
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    Default Re: There's got to be a way!

    good. yeah most forums just have those PUA's that are just angry and there entire thing is about fucking women and doing whatever cause thats what women have done to me. i like to believe our forum is the revolution of game. i think we are going to be the game changers cause we sometimes break the rules that were set for success in the game.

    but yeah you arent obese. just a little overweight. i mean im somewhat the same. i am a little chubby and have been working out and doing cardio a lot. can definitely see the change. I am about 6'4 230. pretty much a big bitch. and yes sometimes my height and build helps cause women tell me they feel safe and shit in my arms but no its not about being tall. i mean lots of women have that compulsive issue about height but you dont need elevated shoes. just try and any girl. if they dont get attracted because of the height, there is nothing you can do. i mean if you feel more comfortable just try going for shorter women.
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    Default Re: There's got to be a way!

    Quote Originally Posted by abcone23 View Post
    Long story short:

    I'm obese, have zits, am a beta male. The girl I like has placed me in the friend category, and says that we can never be together.

    There has got to be a way to change her mind. I know everyone says that once you're in the friend category, you can kiss the girl goodbye, but I need the view of someone who thinks otherwise.

    btw, I won't be seeing her for a few months, so what can I do to change, to perhaps get her to see me differently the next time I see her.

    Thanks!
    dude there is a way and i will simplify this as much as i can.

    btw dont expect me to read Crob enciclopedia on dating cause i dont have much time and i just want to help. i may repeat some of the things said by him and tcomea. Also i love to give tough love because it allows me to be straight into the heart of things and set you straight without being sneaky and wordy. I love to he straight like that so dont take it as a personal thing. you will understand better.

    first of all this girl is no good for you. NO good for you. You even seem obssesed that you will use a couple months of your life just to get ready for the next time you get to see her. WOW that sucks. do you fucking live in a desert or in a huge farm and shes the only other person in your town? wtf dude, WTF? theres lots of people out there. if you were going to see her every week at least id try to help you with her but that is not the case.

    the case is you have low self steem, you have oneitis and you need to change that attitude. On that we can help and the next time you see her you wont care because you will have women. That should be your goal, HAVE WOMEN, not to score one specific girl because most of the time that ends up in the shitter.

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    Default Re: There's got to be a way!

    yeah we are pretty much giving him the things to exceed in the dating community. if he tries to use it for this girl or not is up to him. but overall we are giving him the tools for success.

    and shit now that i look at it. it long as hell. great post i guess!! :P
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    Default Re: There's got to be a way!

    that felt like a blog post.... hummmmmm >.< do you want to post more things in my blog? XD hehehehe

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    Default Re: There's got to be a way!

    i could post some things in ur blog. duh man u have helped me out and everybody else has. i feel like i owe things to you guys.

    shit u could probably take that post, edit a little bit and then post it as a beginning guide to new PUA's just getting in the game.
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    Default Re: There's got to be a way!

    Heigth only matters if you let it. I'm only 5 6 and I am currently dating a beautiful girl I picked up.

    Don't let that limit you. Aka limiting belief!!!

    I'll offer up the same thing as crob hit mr up on pm an I'll give you my email and phone number.

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    Default Re: There's got to be a way!

    @prjav - I completely understand what you mean, but this is probably the closest I've ever gotten to loving someone, and right now, for me it is important to win her over. If it takes a couple of months to do that, I am more than willing to work on it. However, if I do everything right and things do not workout, I'll still be fine with it, knowing that I've become a much better person over that period of time. So it's a win win situation for me

    @tcomea/crobinson1 - where are you guys from? I live in Boston, do you guys know anybody around around here that could wing with me?


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