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  1. #11
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    Default Re: VERY FRUSTRATED! PLEASE HELP WITH OPENERS!

    Dude, you're a bouncer? That's badass and such a huge dhv. You're the one with value and you're the one with power. So use this to your advantage.

    A good one will be something like, "Oh no no, you look like total trouble. I'll give you 1 chance, but then I'm going to have to beat you up."
    Then tell her to put 'em up and squeeze her little girl muscle and laugh.

    Anything can be used as an opener, just have the balls of steel to deliver it any way you want. Fuck what they think, you wanna have a good time

  2. #12
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    Default Re: VERY FRUSTRATED! PLEASE HELP WITH OPENERS!

    Quote Originally Posted by tcomea2 View Post
    Im going to give you exactly what you didnít ask for but Iím going to do it cause in the long run it will help you more. Drop the canned material. Drop the canned openers. Direct and situational are far more affective in getting a set to open. Caned lines sound exactly like thatÖ a line. In the long run if you learn to rely on canned material you will run out. Where as if you were to learn to trust situational and direct you will never run out of things to say. This is whatís really important: ITS NOT THE OPENER THAT MATTERS ITíS THE PRESENTATION AND WHAT YOU DO NEXT THAT HOOKS A SET!!!! Your root problem isnít a lack of openers itís a lack of confidence. You have to learn to reframe the way you think, walk, talk, and present yourself to be that guy that has ďthat lookĒ that every woman wants. That look isnít handsome or rich, itís confident and bold. Work on that, get some social momentum and I promise opening becomes a breeze.
    after trying out canned stuff and feeling kinda awkward about it I definitely agree with what ya said here...but what about in bars? I feel like I need lines to say because everyones just standing around and talking...can you elaborate on "what you do next" in any given set??

    hope that made sense lol

  3. #13
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    Default Re: VERY FRUSTRATED! PLEASE HELP WITH OPENERS!

    You're overthinking this...

    Yea you had an opener...use it then...you said you are/were good...you get stuck on what to say next...here's a tip I give people I help with their game in real life.

    When a person talks...they give out clue words as to what they subconsciously want to talk about. What this means is...

    she says "Oh yea I'm here with my friends it's our first night out together since college started"...

    What are the clues that her brain subconsciously wants to talk about?....FRIENDS, and College...

    Well when you talk to someone, you deliver your opener, and she replies xyz. When she replies, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, as long as it's not a yes, or no reply...she is giving you a clue as to what she wants to talk about.

    When she replies pay attention to the nouns (person, place, or thing) or the verbs (running, came, walked, danced, sang...you know what I mean)...pay attention to the nouns and verbs she says...and then pop in another comment...that's related to it...

    For example the one I used before she said...she came to the club with her friends finally, after college was over and she was on break....

    "Oh so you think you're an educated person (smile/grin/so she knows you're joking)...well let me ask you what do you major in? ...she says "Oh I want to become a teacher, I know the salery won't be bashful but I guess I'll just have to save my money in order to buy a Lamborghini a couple years from now"

    Well what clue words did you see there?.... teacher, salary, Lamborghini....coupl e years from now...(it doesn't have to be a noun or verb it can be a reference to the past or future)...

    Well there you go, choose another clue word her mind subconsciously wants to talk about and talk about it..."Oh I wish I could afford a lamborghinni...and.. .....well you can understand what I am saying.


    ..............
    In bars, you feel you need to use lines? ...let me say this if you're thinking a pickup line, YOU LOSE...what you want to do is ask a question "Hey, don't tell anyone but ...do you think the bartender will notice that I'm not 21 yet if I go and try to buy a drink?"...she says"...oh you're not 21....I dunno you look kinda young..."

    You say..."You know what, can you buy me a drink,oh but please don't tell him I'm not 21 yet..."...how many of you can honestly say that you can get a girl to buy you a drink within 5 seconds of talking to them..?

    USE QUESTIONS!!! Don't use canned crap...canned crap makes you think of outcomes and if a specific one doesn't happen...you crash and burn...you need confidence...don't do canned ANYTHING...

    As a mere question..."Hey I'm kind of new here but ummm..I made a bet with my friend that I'd go and dance with the hottest girl in the bar...can you please point me out to the hottest girl in the bar? I really don't want to lose the bet..."

    ........I DO NOT CARE WHAT QUESTION YOU ASK...JUST DO NOT REHEARSE WHAT QUESTION YOU'll BE ASKING!

    If you come across a question you don't know the answer to...like how many oceans in the world...and what are the names....DO NOT LOOK IT UP ON GOOGLE....THAT IS YOUR PERFECT QUESTION........ASK the questions you don't reherse...and ask the questions you know nothing about...questions that girls may know nothing about as well....

    the 7 oceans question...I taught some guys, they use it as an opener...but it doesn't matter....introduce yourself straight out and then..."I have a question...my friend and I can't seem to find the answer to it, can you please help me?..."

    She'll answer...and give some clue words...and you'll choose one of the words and then reply in regards to it...then just keep on doing it.............


    NOTE THE OBJECT is for you to end the night with them giving you their number and a kiss or sleeping in your bedroom...so using clue words like I tell people to do, isn't the whole solution to getting girls to give you a kiss.

    Hope I helped...overall, canned anything is CRAP, and questions/clue words are good to use if you can't come up with anything to say in the beginning of the interaction......... ....

    ALSO....MAN there is no perfect ANYTHING to say to any chick. What works on one, doesn't work on the other...what I want you to do...is approach at least 10 hot girls everyday for the rest of the week...and tell me the color of their eyes, and their name...

    When that is done...I want you to message me and I'll tell you what you can do next to help your confidence and then after that i'll help you with.........Google exists for a reason.

    People PAY $$$$$$$$$ FOR ADVICE when they have a couple hundred guys that know what they are doing giving the same information for free on forums and blogs and ....

    The PROBLEM....people want to be good with chicks...but they screw up by not actually taking action.

    Get out there buddy, show the world what you're made of.

    ALSO...I know a guy that walks around with a dildo hat on at the mall....he gets more numbers then the guy thats stuck up and in-confident.....be confident...have fun...having fun should be your objective and you'll get numbers in no time!

    Good luck
    From Lagron

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    Default Re: VERY FRUSTRATED! PLEASE HELP WITH OPENERS!

    Hey yall, thank you very much for the posts. I havent been on here in a while, but ive come to realize that canned opener and material, is at the very least, a stepping stone. When i first posted that question about canned material, i thought thats exactly what i needed, but since, ive just been very conversational, funny, and as an end result, i show my confidence. I have seen tremendous results this way. Even if i dont get girls number, i can really tell the difference in the way they respond to me and the way they look at me. Sometimes i'll be looking out of the corner of my eye when im walking, and i can see girls checking me out after ive talked to them. I guess one has to use the canned material, and fail to realize that it doesnt work nearly as well as just being conversational, humorous, and confident does. Anyway, thank you tecoma, Lagron, and all the other puas that relpyed to my post.

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    Default Re: VERY FRUSTRATED! PLEASE HELP WITH OPENERS!

    Hey bro if you claim that you know these chicks are checking you out, giving you ioi's. when you see them .don't even think. just go over there and say "honestly i saw you, i thought you were really cute, i just wanted to come over here and hi.. she says thank you . that's when your in. introduce your self / shake hands .then transition in to a regular conversation. "you have a cool look you actually you stand out. that's a good thing every other girl in here, kind of look the same." that's a cool _______ by the way whats the story behind it? so I am guessing your probably an actress am i right? she might say yes or she might say no you say haha what do you do? your in. build comfort build attraction. if its a 2 set or 3 set then try to keep the involved. and sy i can tell you guys know each other well cause when ever you guys say somthing you look at each other before you reply. theyl do it then say see you guys did it again. thats all i can give you for right now. next time ile give you guys more.

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    Default Re: VERY FRUSTRATED! PLEASE HELP WITH OPENERS!

    Hey bro if you claim that you know these chicks are checking you out, giving you ioi's. when you see them .don't even think. just go over there and say "honestly i saw you, i thought you were really cute, i just wanted to come over here and hi.. she says thank you . that's when your in. introduce your self / shake hands .then transition in to a regular conversation. "you have a cool look you actually you stand out. that's a good thing every other girl in here, kind of look the same." that's a cool _______ by the way whats the story behind it? so I am guessing your probably an actress am i right? she might say yes or she might say no you say haha what do you do? your in. build comfort build attraction. if its a 2 set or 3 set then try to keep the involved. and sy i can tell you guys know each other well cause when ever you guys say somthing you look at each other before you reply. theyl do it then say see you guys did it again. thats all i can give you for right now. next time ile give you guys more.

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    Default Re: VERY FRUSTRATED! PLEASE HELP WITH OPENERS!

    Look right at the girl and say, YOU, she will stare back at you a bit started and then say, yeh hi, how are you doing, [smile] and say im, [your name] and conversate with her.

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    Default Re: VERY FRUSTRATED! PLEASE HELP WITH OPENERS!

    Best. Opener. Ever. Takes a lot of balls, but it's High Risk/High Reward type of stuff. You : Hi, how's it going? HB : Fine, thanks / bla bla bla You : Cool. What are you doing later? HB : I don't know/bla bla bla You : Would you like to come over to my place? Now, this is the crucial step. WAIT FOR HER REACTION !!! DON'T SAY ANOTHER WORD !!! ACT NORMAL !!! BAM !!! With pleasure, Toothpick.

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    Default Re: VERY FRUSTRATED! PLEASE HELP WITH OPENERS!

    ^^ don't get?

    btw the other ones are good for their overall meaning: go in. it's just more fun to be creative because the laugh or response they give fuels one's own confidence and actions

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    Default Re: VERY FRUSTRATED! PLEASE HELP WITH OPENERS!

    What do you not get, aladdyn? This is the Apocalypse opener. This is like a nuclear bomb in a sticks and stones battle. Done right, this will be your fastest lay ever. Nevermind the instant makeout ( well, most of the time is instant, the others might take 5-10 min more ).


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