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  1. #1
    The Chase Guest

    Default Braces lowering my self-esteem

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    - Had extraordinary success with women last year after practicing PUA all the time. It became a true passion, my favorite hobby to this day is going up to groups of women and seducing them.
    - Been working out for over 2 years now:

    - Continued to further improve my appearance, part of that being I needed braces. My teeth weren't terrible, very white and healthy, but not perfectly straight. I got the clear ceramic braces but I have lost a lot of confidence when approaching women
    - Only have them on for a couple more months, but do not want to deprive myself from approaching and dating beautiful women.

    What I want your advice on is to confirm or deny my approach to get over this barrier for the next couple months:

    - From David D's Interviews With Dating Guru's Series with Eric. Approach multiple women and ask. "Hey I am here to confirm that you would never date or hookup with a man with braces." From these results I will hopefully get a bunch of "No that's not true" thus helping my confidence.
    - Attempt to just not worry about the braces at all, as attraction is not a choice and if I am presenting myself properly it should never matter that I do indeed have braces.

    Any other suggestions would be appreciated.

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    Default Re: Braces lowering my self-esteem

    dude, your stuck with the braces so embrace them. they are gonna be there for another 6 months, man up and go out. if a girl isnt gonna want to talk to you because your trying to improv yourself its her loss.

    i do like the idea of the first one. but more or less to use it as a opener because from there you could be like "so wow there is more to you than just looks?"

    and think the better you get with braces and your self esteem slightly lower, your gonna be amazing when the braces come off!!!

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    Default Re: Braces lowering my self-esteem

    Quote Originally Posted by The Chase View Post

    - From David D's Interviews With Dating Guru's Series with Eric. Approach multiple women and ask. "Hey I am here to confirm that you would never date or hookup with a man with braces." From these results I will hopefully get a bunch of "No that's not true" thus helping my confidence.

    Any other suggestions would be appreciated.
    Man you don't know how good you've got it. Soon you will have perfect teeth which people pay thousands of dollars to have, really have a think about it.

    How about putting it this way:

    "Hey I am here to confirm that you would never date or hookup with a man who has not had braces."

    Don't create more problem than you already have.

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    Default Re: Braces lowering my self-esteem

    Braces are for a man who sees a problem he doesn't like, finds a solution, and has no problem following up through the process of the solution.

    Braces are uncomfortable, they hurt, and they look odd, but those things haven't detoured you from creating the solution that you need - braces are quite manly..

    I just finished the process of getting my teeth fixed, I have done exactly what you are doing now and I am so glad I did.

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    Default Re: Braces lowering my self-esteem

    Thanks Instinct, your knowlodge pulled me to these forums after browsing. I'm also getting braces very soon... Could not have been said better thankyou I have read many of your posts.

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    Default Re: Braces lowering my self-esteem

    Wow, your responses were amazing guys. Thanks. I needed that re-frame badly.

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    Default Re: Braces lowering my self-esteem

    Hey dude, seriously, I had to have braces twice because my teeth relapsed! second time i was like 16/17 and hormones were kicking in and yeah - it knocked my confidence with the chicas a tad. was well worth it! These days i've got a permanent fixed retainer and i've had it for like the past 6 years - keeps your teeth straight and no one can see it unless you really obviously point it out to them!

    Defo worth doing, just make sure you keep on top of cleaning them after meals etc. and you'll be fine!
    Playin' for keeps is still playin', Mon Ami, so take a card... ANY CARD!

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    Default Re: Braces lowering my self-esteem

    Quote Originally Posted by Yeti View Post
    Hey dude, seriously, I had to have braces twice because my teeth relapsed! second time i was like 16/17 and hormones were kicking in and yeah - it knocked my confidence with the chicas a tad. was well worth it! These days i've got a permanent fixed retainer and i've had it for like the past 6 years - keeps your teeth straight and no one can see it unless you really obviously point it out to them!

    Defo worth doing, just make sure you keep on top of cleaning them after meals etc. and you'll be fine!
    Thanks for the tips, some of my friends have had to get them twice so I will def not forget to wear my retainer at night or get the permanent ones like you have. Also, I'm almost OCD with keeping my mouth and teeth clean hence why I really wanted to get them straightened as they mean a lot to me.

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    Default Re: Braces lowering my self-esteem

    Listen bro, I read a PU ebook once(or twice lol) 6 or 7 years ago where the guy said hey, if you're ugly(not really comparing the two) and you just walk up to some girl like you're the $hit anyway it's like a huge dhv since...man, this guy's busted lookin but he must be soooooo confident to just walk up like that...damn that's kinda hot. For example, I'm losing my hair(which was killing me until I said screw it) and had the MOST massive gigantic almost marble sized pimple on my forehead, but last night I got dressed up looking sweet, feelin good and spit game at our waitress at a restaurant last night like that $hit didn't exist. Needless to say, no problem man, $hit made me feel good too and everything that (you think) is wrong with you can work just as much in your favor as against you so it, IF you play if off can be just a flat out wash. And if it's a wash, then...it don't effing matter right????

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    Default Re: Braces lowering my self-esteem

    It's only a self confidence killer if YOU think it is. The Alpha male doesn't even let the zit on the tip of his nose bother him. man up, I say!


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