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    puaroutines10 is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Cool Another good opener with neg

    I just thought of another opener I think, give me your opinion on this one:

    Approach a HB10, she must be really, really hot. Walk up and ask her if she can help you with your self esteem issues. When she asks how so, tell her in a clear voice without stuttering or mumbling that you have a hard time approaching beautiful women to engage in conversation. That you get shy and nervious when around pretty women... The neg being the fact that a really hot woman knows shes hot. But for a nervious, low confidence guy to approach her without a problem, and no anxiety, could be viewed as a neg right? Tell me your opinion on this one.

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    Default Re: Another good opener with neg

    So your plan is to approach and attract a woman by walking right up to her, and telling her the EXACT foundation of your anxiety with the opposite sex? Whether you are able to say it confidently or not, this is dlv.

    Change it to "A 'friend' has this problem, and that your intention is to get some female perspective, because you don't understand why it's so challenging for some men." Then ask the question "Why do you think some men have such a problem with this?" or "What tips would you give a man in this situation?"

    Then tell her "Great. What do you say we test that theory? Come on. This will be fun! First, help me find a really hot woman in the bar on which test." The neg being, that you DON'T think she is one of those women.

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    Default Re: Another good opener with neg

    I don't like it , she will probably not even understand the joke imo

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    Default Re: Another good opener with neg

    I have other issues with this opener besides what jon said, but he is right it is a dlv.
    My other issues are this: why open a girl with a neg, why not go direct and be alpha in your approach and attract her because you really are higher value than her, not having to neg her to make yourself appear that way? Works for me, and works for a lot of others on this site, and throughout the community.

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    Default Re: Another good opener with neg

    Quote Originally Posted by puaroutines10 View Post
    I just thought of another opener I think, give me your opinion on this one:

    Approach a HB10, she must be really, really hot. Walk up and ask her if she can help you with your self esteem issues. When she asks how so, tell her in a clear voice without stuttering or mumbling that you have a hard time approaching beautiful women to engage in conversation. That you get shy and nervious when around pretty women... The neg being the fact that a really hot woman knows shes hot. But for a nervious, low confidence guy to approach her without a problem, and no anxiety, could be viewed as a neg right? Tell me your opinion on this one.
    hehe. interesting one

  6. #6
    danny4u Guest

    Default Re: Another good opener with neg

    Opps double post. Love internet

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    Default Re: Another good opener with neg

    Quote Originally Posted by JonTylerDiPrince View Post
    So your plan is to approach and attract a woman by walking right up to her, and telling her the EXACT foundation of your anxiety with the opposite sex? Whether you are able to say it confidently or not, this is dlv.

    Change it to "A 'friend' has this problem, and that your intention is to get some female perspective, because you don't understand why it's so challenging for some men." Then ask the question "Why do you think some men have such a problem with this?" or "What tips would you give a man in this situation?"

    Then tell her "Great. What do you say we test that theory? Come on. This will be fun! First, help me find a really hot woman in the bar on which test." The neg being, that you DON'T think she is one of those women.
    nice tips..

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    Default Re: Another good opener with neg

    In your defense this type of approach is mentioned by several MPUAs as a great way to get over Approach Anxiety. You may want to change it up. Approach the HB10 and ask if she can help you out because you have a hard time talking to amazingly beautiful women with great taste. By the way my name is... Put your hand out and when she takes your spin her. It will ease her up then let her answer. She will usually say well you seem to be doing fine to me. I use the dryer lint routine here and reach around to her back and come up with it and say wow how long has that been there! Usually her shields are down and now maker laugh about something totally different like it didnt even bother you and your in as long as your routine is decent.

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    Default Re: Another good opener with neg

    idk chances are she will think its a cheesy pick up line not a playful neg.

    I just approach all girls the same way just change the negs around based on her responses.

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    Default Re: Another good opener with neg

    I understand why people are criticizing this so much, but it isn't an incorrect opener at all. It follows some of the basics of mystery method, by openning a HB10 with a neg, and using a disqualifying dlv, which is a viable neg opener. Now that being said, I would say JonTylerDiPrince has a much better routine at hand, which makes the neg much more clear, and also helps you merges sets which adds to your social value. Again though, that makes it a bit more advanced, and if you are someone with aa I would say just stick to your current routine and field test it a bit, and at worst get some confidence going.


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