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    Defiant is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Thumbs up Being Approached - Stealth Attraction?

    I've just introduced myself, so I figured I'd head straight into a discussion of what I don't understand.

    Basically, I get approached more times than I approach - my last 2 partners approached me, a few times in my local clubs (That I'm not a local of) and in the last week that I've been working in America - On Monday, 2 girls approached and introduced themselves to me - walked past all my mates to do so, Tuesday, another girl approached my friend (I sent him to the vicinity as I played pool as I was supposed to be schooling him) but her intention was towards me, and Wednesday I got speaking to a married ex Calvin Klein model that started talking to me.
    Each time these people are the ones that all my mates are saying are gorgeous and giving attention - I don't because I don't want to give them higher power.
    I don't believe I'm the best looking person in the group, I am definately not the most outgoing, Certainly not the peacocked and not the Alpha male neither.

    I know all this sounds pretty cocky of me, but they are my results, and these are only the most recent omission's. I figured it may interest some people to discuss the topic further - teaching me, and others on how to expose yourself to instantly having the upper hand and to be honest, not really putting much effort in.

    I'm going to add in as it comes to mind, so I'll try break it into segments for ease of reading.

    Body Language

    For this example I'll use the one that caught the 2 girls attention because that is the time I remember putting a conscious effort into it.

    That night I spent my time chatting to different friends - showing slight scarcity between different people in the group, positioning myself on the step for the most part to appear higher than most, chatting, and also looking around the room (I guess in a James Bond Cocky surveying style) - Hands out of pockets, good posture, Shoulders out and I did the occasional scratching of the back of one arm to stealth flex them both (I'm not even very muscular, but every little helps).
    Every time I caught a girl looking in my direction I'd look back and give a smile, this would normally get them to smile and/or look away - at this point I'd try get chatting to someone as if to make it a lost chance if they looked again and thought I'd lost interest (it all seems a figment of my imagination that this would work as I type it, but these are the conscious things I do at the time)
    Eventually on this night, I just got bored and sat down, again, it was a cocky (I guess bored king like) position, all leant back, legs out to own my space, arms open resting on my leg and back up pretty straight but slouched somewhat for cockiness.
    At this point it was when 2 girls came past everyone to visit the restroom or something, I was straight ahead of both of them so when they looked at me, I smiled and maintained eye contact as they looked down somewhat embaressed.
    I don't know what happened in there, but when they came back, they walked past most of my friends and introduced themselves to me. Because the music was so loud, we couldn't hear each other, and because I failed to extract them outside, or introduce them to my friends, I lost it. However, I bring this up because I think all the precursors are important.

    Speaking to Women
    I'll use the ex Calvin Klein model for this one because we talked so well and she was so down right interesting and actually made me seem pretty dumb. I'll also use the second partner that I mentioned as they are somewhat similar.
    I was in the same bar, but on a different night, somewhat drunk I went out, by myself for a cigarette - this was supposed to be to show scarcity to the girls inside.
    As I got out there,.. Speaking of cigarettes, back in a sec.. As none of my friends where outside, I stood just by the door and by the bin - I figured that it was pretty economic as I could smoke, trash and get back inside, at this point the best looking girl in the club told me I didn't need to stand by the trash and that I ccould stand over with her and her friend, I replied to that with it's what I'm used to - trying to crack a joke whilst also not making an effort to woo her, the three of us got talking, but I was tired and the conversation was sh1t, then my friend came out making it worse, and then the dirty old pervert came out and started trying to flirt, at this point I went back in.
    Later on I went for another, and she was talking with her friend to some guys, I paid no interest so she left them to come talking to me - because she is American we had loads to talk about (me being English) she left because she had to sing so I negged her a little about leaving me all alone and she apologised, She sang and when I got in I maintained eye contact and smiled, as I walked to the toilet, which registered interest but stopped her from taking over.
    I played pool with my friend and she came over to speak to me - my friend had to tell me because she was waiting idly for me to notice her, we spoke for a while, cracked jokes, and I let her take a shot for me, I promptly won that game and we went out for another cigarette and we spoke about all the differences between England and America, she sang, I left her to her friends - I was trying to use the cat string method for the rest of the night. at the end of the night I number closed and left - We're still dating.

    With my second partner to approach me - Everyone in the pub spent all night trying to speak to her - she had no interest, I went out for a cigarette and she came out and asked me in front of all my friend if she knew me (I used the body language precursors of course, it wasn't completely random) My answer to that was a simple no, and she had to work for me - which pissed off all my mates because she too was the best looking person in the place, we joked around and if she called me cute I'd say thanks and that she was too - that sort of thing, the more I got speaking to her, it turned out she'd been checking me all night, and had been drinking the confidence up to speak to me, because I blatantly wasn't going to speak to her.

    I'm going to leave it here for now, because it seems to be a lot to take in and I do want aspects of this to be discussed. From what I've written so far, I guess my best points are Scarcity, consciousness of body language, maintaining eye contact and smiling, and seeming some what bored, giving them a window to try entertain me.
    I hope for some Feedback because I think I'm onto something here.

    Defiant

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    Default Re: Being Approached - Stealth Attraction?

    I take it nobody is interested on flipping the game and having women work for us then? Ok, I'll just keep doing what I'm doing. Have fun with your routines

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    Default Re: Being Approached - Stealth Attraction?

    Actually, it's nothing wrong with that, it happens to me but not often. You don't go out for girls to approach you, you go out to have fun and approach the girl.. But still, I see you're point.

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    Default Re: Being Approached - Stealth Attraction?

    What is a precursor by the way?

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    Default Re: Being Approached - Stealth Attraction?

    A precursor is something that happens before, in this case it was how I presented myself, or felt I did, before they introduced themselves.
    I do go out for girls to approach me, or for me to approach girls, it's just now, since I'm being approached more, it gives me a higher hand, as they're the ones trying to make conversation, they're the ones performing, and I'm now the one deciding how I want to take it. Theres no need for magic tricks, openers or props, something is happening, and women such as the ex CK model, or the girl I got the number of last night are loving it.
    I'm still practicing myself, by approaching women, speaking to groups and purposely starting off bad so I can keep a connection and build rappor from a worse situation. But I want more self development, the one that impresses women from across the room in a busy place, the one that sets me against other men, not for my willingness to approach, but just because I seem like the better choice

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    Default Re: Being Approached - Stealth Attraction?

    hi there.

    Defiant, you did great.
    being a PUA does not mean necessarily that you have to go out sarging everynight.

    so many times we'll pick them up just because we are the only one that ARE NOT trying to pick them up...

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    Default Re: Being Approached - Stealth Attraction?

    Thanks for the pat on the back. But I was hoping to discuss this further and develop it into a pick up strategy, like the rockstar status strategy or an adaption of Gamblers Stealth Attraction techniques.
    I'm tired of reading a woman, choosing a preset strategy and working it on her. Yes, the 100% pass rate is still out of my reach, but it always will be. I want to develop something new, something completely different. The members on this site seem to be so interested in Strategies that they're missing the point of attracting girls, to become the best thing in the room. I'm not looking for any sort of recognition in the community, I'm looking to create something new.

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    Default Re: Being Approached - Stealth Attraction?

    are you saying something like a "Defiant Method" ?

    i actually believe that, for me, it really works great melting all the methods , because, when picking up, if the girl changes, then the approach has to change too...

    one thing is to seduce, and another is to attract...

    Gambler focuses on those 3 C's and the 3 characters of seduction but his Game have been for the past years largely Social/ Night Game with lots of social proof involved.

    whats your starting points?

    regards

    Vanilla


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