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    Hi guys, I went out a couple days ago and approached about 20 different girls in the mall... results: 2 numbers 9-10 good conversations/ hug goodbyes I went again yesterday and approached about the same number of women at the same location with the same opener and conversation routine results: 0 numbers 1 decent conversation Not sure exactly what's wrong with me, there are days that I truly succeed in talking to women and days when nothing seems to happen and women excuse themselves and leave. Any ideas how I can get consistent results?? thanks! btw, I use a situational opener as in trying to find the directions to some place and tell the girl that I'm from out of town, to which she asks where from, and I continue the convo from there.

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    Abcone,

    I'm going to suggest that the very fact that you're really striving for results is sabotaging your degree of success with intelligent woman who can intuitively sense an air of neediness or affectation in your approach and demeanor. Also its important to realize that no matter how good you are, you're always going to have off days. Don't worry about it!

    1. Try going in with the Mindset of: "Im here, Im well dressed, Im smiling, Im down to make a couple new friends but I don't NEED her phone number". The "I want you, but I don't need you" or the "You're cute but I can get 10 of you" mentality really helped me improve my overall presence. The moment you fully internalize the "I dont give a sh1t" mentality is the moment woman start asking YOU for your number and closing themselves. No joke.

    2. Try dropping the situational opener and conversation stacks. Simple is Sexy. A confident "Hi" and a smile is all you really need to initiate the chat and generate interest. Once she responds, treat your situational opener as Plan B: a bridge to begin asking her 'what' and 'why' questions about herself. Conversational routines come in next - if needed - to fuel the otherwise organic, fun conversation.

    3. At the Mall:[/b] warm up by chatting with retail clerks. Both men and woman. Kiosk employees are great because they often approach you with their sales pitches. Begin bantering with them and when a cute girl walks passed pull her into the mix...BOOM. Ask for her opinion on whatever product the salesperson is selling... insert humor. Banter banter banter! Sunglasses, Hats, and Cellphone accessory kiosks make for great fun. Ya digg? I guarantee that if you're a fun guy, with this technique alone, your success will double.

    How exactly do you go about asking woman for their phone number? Maybe a simple change in wording is all that's needed for better consistency.

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    Hi Kors, thanks for your advice, I really really appreciate it! I usually only ask for the number when I am almost sure that she'll give it to me. In other words, if I feel that I have made a good connection with the girl, it is quite easy to ask and get her number. I couldn't get the numbers in my last set of approaches because I didn't really make any solid connection with the girls. Also, I have been trying, but haven't been able to really internalize the "i don't give a sh1t" attitude, I don't know why, but I always come across as trying too hard or a results-oriented person. Could you give me advice on how I can change that attitude? thanks again!

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    The "I don't give a sh!t" Mindset will develop when:

    A: You recognize the fact that you're actually getting out there to train yourself, taking action and becoming more self aware. For this reason alone you have a tremendous advantage over MOST Guys who don't do any work on themselves. This translates into "Im the sh!t because I am aware of a level of communication & game that most regular guys cannot even perceive". This works for me personally.

    B: Go get a brand new hair cut and buy some cool fits that are totally out of your comfort zone. I know it sounds superficial and our identity is wrapped up in our style and the way we dress, but Life is about presentation. That's the world. You'll instantly feel like a badass when you change up your style. Do a search on Google Images find a style and copy it. Simple. Start with shoes, then work your way up. Shop by yourself. Ask a couple female retail clerks to HELP YOU.

    C: Try practicing the "Walk Away". Approach woman, chit-chat for maybe a minute, see what's up, then be like "Cool, great to meet you, have a good one" and WALK AWAY. Go in with the goal of saying hi and walking away. Forget the number. Do this a few times and you'll quickly realize the phone number is pretty much the last thing you should be concerned about. There are so many more important aspects of Game.

    There are many many more tips, but without getting to deep or philosophical these are quick ways to set yourself up with the right kind of confidence & mindset. Getting consistent results was a slower process for me. The first time I locked down two dates in the same week was a major achievement for me. I had options!. A huge confidence boost showed up in all of my new interactions. Don't loose your results-oriented nature Dude, you need that to advance farther in the Ways of The Force. Just remember that the phone number isn't the end result. Its just another step in the process. Most guys don't have the balls to approach in a mall and say "Hi". So relax and be happy with "Hello" even if that's as far as you get with her.

    Keep it simple and keep approaching.

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    BELIEVE!

    "The road to success is paved with failures."

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    Default Re: Frustrated!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kors View Post

    C: Try practicing the "Walk Away". Approach woman, chit-chat for maybe a minute, see what's up, then be like "Cool, great to meet you, have a good one" and WALK AWAY. Go in with the goal of saying hi and walking away. Forget the number. Do this a few times and you'll quickly realize the phone number is pretty much the last thing you should be concerned about. There are so many more important aspects of Game.
    after you are sure at the very least that she enjoys your company


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