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    Default Middle Game Advice

    I can open, no problem. I have zero Approach Anxiety now. I can keep her entertained for about 5 minutes then I run out of material. I think I also stay too long in to the set.

    I think the problem I'm having is that I ask her boring questions. I need to step it up. I can get a good reaction within the first 5 minutes, but then it fizzles. I need a set to make it last and then Number Close.

    I'm an rAFC who is just now getting back in to the game, so I forget all of my old routines and strategies.

    Any advice?

    What do you recommend that will let her build up?

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    Default Re: Middle Game Advice

    Let her ask the questions lol. Or, ask for opinions on things... If there's one things girls love to do, that's give their piece of mind. Ask open ended sh1t, like, something about someone's fashion or the music. Ask why?...
    This keeps them engaged.
    There are studies that show people who ask open ended questions and probe into answers given by someone else are considered good listeners. Girls LOVE good listeners.

    Also, reiterate things she said. It builds rapport, such as using her name. neg her a bit here and there to make her feel as if she needs to prove herself to you. USe some Kino. Heck, if you even want to, pull out some lint from your jeans and pretend it was in her hair or shirt (it gives u an excuse to touch her and to neg her)...

    I think middle game goes hand in hand with being able to open her up and have HER be interested in you. I rarely ever describe things I do in life. If she asks questions, I keep it brief and open ended to her interpretation. This way, it builds mystique and mysteriousness, makes you interesting, and then, you will find her talking to you about whatever.

    An easy thing is ask where she is from... how she knows her friends, how long they have been friends, what they are doing here tonight (play around and even say, this is my bar/club/lounge and I didn't put you on the guestlist).

    Just engage her and if you feel that she isn;'t interested, keep the convo to 5 minutes, walk away, but leave with an inside kind of joke or comfort talk. For instance... I opened with these girls one night with a kiss opener (when you tell her one of your buddies has a gf who makes out with girls all the time, is that cheating...) You get all kinds of responses from girls, you can question them, etc. I talked with them for 5 minutes, told them I appreciated their input, then walked away. Then, anytime I saw them walking by, I said, you better not be making out with girls if you have a bf. Then everytime they saw me, they told me they were going to go make out.

    End of the night, They came up to me, one talked to me and made out with me.
    Even though the initial convo was 5 minutes, it left them intrigued that; 1) I didn't hit on them, but rather talked to them... 2) I wasn't showing a lot of interest since I did walk away in 5 minutes, and ... 3) I had better things to do and they weren't it.... Most guys find a girl that night, talk to her for 2 hours hoping to get something. My convo with this girl was a total of maybe 10 before she was making out with me.
    It's okay if conversations are 5 minutes, you just have to work the game right.

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    Default Re: Middle Game Advice

    leave when the convo is getting good, cut it abruptly. "hey babe, I gotta run, my friends are looking for me, good convo, I'll come up and say bye if I run into you again later." leave immediately.

    walk off (keep tabs on her though, I actually lost a couple of chicks on diff ocassions giving me major IOIs because I was doing laps around the clubs/bars without keeping tabs on the HBs)

    So come back later and engage in some interesting convo, cut it short again and say something like "hey fuckin' good convo, but I gotta go.. let's continue later.. how do I contact you?" (Do not say CAN I GET YOUR NUMBER?)

    she will probably say "well call me" or "here's my email".. Usually when they offer email i say - nah I'll just lose that, here (hand them phone, say "call yourself, let it ring so that you know it's me calling when I call you..")

    from there you can setup a future meet or whatever you wanna do..

    note: I usually call girl within 1-3 days max of getting her #, if I havent called by day 3, I delete the number off my phone. I've actually had 3 girls text me wondering why i never called after i deleted there number off phone. lol. happy hunting.


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