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Thread: Mystery, David DeAngelo, and Juggler are all frauds

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    Default Re: Mystery, David DeAngelo, and Juggler are all frauds

    Quote Originally Posted by Sitfab View Post
    Dude, you got serious problems. If these are their choice in women, who are you to piss on them? Half of Mystery's girlfriends that you've posted here are actually very cute.

    Katya is very cute, Jackie's attractive, the girl on the right in the first last one ( the one you called HB2 ) is a solid 8, the girl on the right in the first picture second post is actually a solid 8 as well, the girl on the left ( where there are three HB's ) is also a solid 8 ( maybe she has a nice body too, but strictly from what I see, she's an 8 ). While I do agree that David D and Juggler's girlfriend are not my type at all, it's their life and choice of women and who are you to judge them and question them?

    All in all, either you have unrealistically high standards when it comes to women, or you did something wrong each and every time and decided it's better to put the blame on these guys.

    Personally, I've bedded 9's and 10's with the help of David's stuff and Mystery's stuff effortlessly. Mostly one night stands or short relationships, to be fair, but that's not the point.

    It all comes down to your values and beliefs. If you are unsatisfied, you need to reconsider them carefully. A lot of guys got awesome results. Me included. Just so you know, I'm not affiliated with any of these guys, so I'm only talking from my point of view as a satisfied customer.

    Either this, or ( according to your other posts ) you're just a spammer who tries to pull something "smart" out of this by dissing these guys and promote somebody else's stuff, in which case you will be banned.

    Don't bullsh1t us with this irrelevant stuff just because it hasn't worked with you. We all know the difference between US women and European women ( me being from Europe...Eastern Europe...where you'd get a boner just by walking on the street...no joke ).

    Or you're Ross Jeffries, in which case all is explained.
    afraid this gent is right, yeah maybe not 9's or 10's but they are very attractive.

    also wasnt it an unwritten rule somewhere you dont jduge a girl less then HB6? becasue then your just being cruel. i fail to see why you failed you should have ago at others and blame them, why not blame your mother while your up here.
    i dont see those 3 gentlemen as gods of the game, though i certenly take my hat off to their ski ll and knowledge, but the PUA game isnt about who can score the best women, or the most or in the best way. its not abotu challange or notchs unless you make it that way.
    i got into the game to raise my personal self esteem. the very creator of the game only analysed everything to write a book on how to get a girlfriend not have sex alot. he married his fisrt love, a girl he picked up while practicing the the methods he wro te about. my point to that(tieing in) is that the number system is a failure to begin with. as everyone has differnt versions of hot sexy and beauty, to mystery, juggler and david, i bet those girls were fantastic to them just like your girls are to you, now i have no gripe with you, you speak from abad place and sure get your feelings out if you ferel betrayed but instead of blame, thrust your anger into what every guru's aim was, to create your OWN personal game based of what they teach,
    mystery method teachs self love
    davids bussiness method teachs confidense
    juggler's stuff helps you with your humuility

    and of course they all teach the game but you pu ll your own messages from these books, they arnt rulesmaybe not even guidelines, just a push in the right direction. and yeah self love confidense and humility may have been what I personally got from those books but im not preaching it as lore.

    if your upset rant it out have an arguement but then work on the game where they fall, master it then write your own book for people to cri tise then work on so they can master it and write there own book etc etc
    its a cicle that demands perfection that can never been secured, but its called development.

    speaking of rants that was quite a rant i had there and i assure you i wrote it with a calm mind not in anger! even so. they maybe Guru's becasue they've been int eh game so long and know so much, but oneday they will be replaced by the new generations with new uptodate ways of the game. so would you do me a favor old boy and NOT badmouth those that we may oneday be. im sure you wouldnt like people questionuing your game with pictures of perticular ex's you werent so proud of. or even ones you were but still suffer judgement from a stranger.

    best of luck with your new book
    "It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most
    responsive to change." Charles Darwin

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    Default Re: Mystery, David DeAngelo, and Juggler are all frauds

    Quote Originally Posted by Sitfab View Post
    Or you're Ross Jeffries, in which case all is explained.
    on a side note ross Jefferies and mystery made up not long ago they are friends now, its in their new books int he pre-face.
    "It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most
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    Default Re: Mystery, David DeAngelo, and Juggler are all frauds

    Quote Originally Posted by Bradders View Post
    on a side note ross Jefferies and mystery made up not long ago they are friends now, its in their new books int he pre-face.
    On another alleged account, another guy went on a bootcamp ( can't remember if it was from LS or another ) but refused to pay any further than the deposit because he was expecting to be taught by a different guy than the one that showed up at the bootcamp. The instructor was drunk all night and eventually disappeared later on. As the guy exchanged mails with said instructor, the latter started threatening him and eventually showed up at a seminar the guy attended and simply grabbed him by the throat from behind and said that he's gonna kill him.

    Everything except these two accounts on his pua hating site i totally disagree with or find it too try-hard to come on top with his stuff.

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    Default Re: Mystery, David DeAngelo, and Juggler are all frauds

    Quote Originally Posted by Sitfab View Post
    Thank you very much, man, just doing what I can ) It's been and it still is a rewarding journey and I'm thankful for what I've accomplished for myself. I'm glad I kept going with PU when sh1t got tough. And when I get old I can say to myself "Not bad, sonny, not bad at all". Since I began in 2005, I've never looked back until now. And I realized I've accomplished more than I thought for myself up until this very moment.

    Everybody wants a hot girlfriend/wife/partner/fark-buddy and it's nothing wrong in my eyes to consider your girlfriend a trophy ONLY FOR YOURSELF if it's the girl of your dreams. In the end, everybody has their own Beauty Museum inside their heart ( and picture folder ), as long as it's only open for the curator and select friends. And when one gets old he can go visit there and say to himself "Not bad, sonny, not bad at all" as he looks at the marvelous works of art.
    You're welcome, you the man...It's all about good taste...Ha ha ha...The curator would first taste and evaluate if those masterpieces are original or not...[I'm just joshing here]...You keep up the good work man...I'm really inspired by your achievement, you keep collecting those HBs...It's the way to go.

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    Default Re: Mystery, David DeAngelo, and Juggler are all frauds

    At the end of the day, one guys 6 is another mans 10. Ultimately, practicing 'game' is not about demonstrating to others that you're capable of picking up a 10, it's about increasing your own self-confidence to the point where you're not in the least bit concerned with what others think of your choice of women, or any other aspect of your chosen life.

    Given you've been at this for two years and you're yet to realize this, I'd suggest taking a long hard look at yourself and determining what it really is that you want from life because at the moment it appears to be limited to the approval of others.

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    Default Re: Mystery, David DeAngelo, and Juggler are all frauds

    OP has to be trolling if he calling a in shape blonde with cute face an HB2. What's wrong with your scale? If you call that HB2 then how do you classify some overweight or less attractive everyday HB's???? All those HB's are solid 7 and aboves.

    Then he complains he can only hook up with HB8???

    There are millions of guys who can't even dream of hooking with someone that high and this guy is acting like a douche bag and has the nerve to actually complain about it ....

    HB 9 and 10 are are pornstars and celebs that can generate revenue by virtue of their appearance and are typically reserved for highest income bracket males most everyday guys are extremely lucky to hook with HB7 ...

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    Default Re: Mystery, David DeAngelo, and Juggler are all frauds

    Why would you even get on one of these forums just to bash other people? That's not what these forums are for!!!

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    Default Re: Mystery, David DeAngelo, and Juggler are all frauds

    The way I interpret HB scale is HB 10 = most desireable HB of the world such as Megan Fox (or compearable celebs who might not be as hot, but are nonetheless desirable by virtue of their status) HB9s are big titty'ed porn stars who are getting payed $4k/hr to be penetrated by top level bodybuilders jacked up on steroids, therefore its not reasonable to expect her to hook up with some 5 feet tall indian guy who tucks in his shirt inside his pants and has a strong accent just beause he read a couple of weasel phrases in some self improvement book.

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    Default Re: Mystery, David DeAngelo, and Juggler are all frauds

    @Disappointed: I don't really have anything strong to say. Just saw this one bumped and was curious. You've listed several pictures of some of these celebrity PUA's GFs, and described them far from HB9 or HB10. Could you list a picture of what your HB10 would be?

    I know everyone's scale is different. Mine is based on an equation and is a statistically "normal distribution" I know some guys have scales that are bottom heavy, some are top heavy, some are uniform.

    You've shown us what you see as NOT HB10, but it would clear up a lot if we could see a picture of what you DO consider to be HB10.
    DTF HB's omw 2 LTR

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    Default Re: Mystery, David DeAngelo, and Juggler are all frauds

    Most of Mystery's girls are at least cute. Several 8s in the mix. However, David D has no success with women. He can only get dogs. This is a known fact, and there's plenty of pics to prove it. I was farking girls much hotter than that before even reading PUA stuff. The majority of men that pass on fat girls fall into that camp. Juggler's girl is okay looking. She at least looks smart. So I'll give her a personality pass, but that's not exactly earning him points.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bradders View Post
    also wasnt it an unwritten rule somewhere you dont jduge a girl less then HB6? becasue then your just being cruel.
    In my mind 6 = sort of cute. 5 = average. 4 = will stick it in her. Those are required numbers unless you've got enough success that you only do hot girls, and I have yet to meet someone in the community that never slums it up with a 4. Never.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sitfab View Post
    it's their life and choice of women and who are you to judge them and question them?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr8Hyde6 View Post
    If in your eyes those girls are sub par, fine great, good for you.
    You know, you've both made some excellent points. Why does it matter if a PUA can get hot girls? I think I'll apply this thinking to other areas.
    I'll ask the guy behind the register at Burger King what stocks I should invest in. I'll ask the homeless dude on the bench what type of plant would go with the decor in my living room. And I'll ask Keith Richards how to best practice my Mormon faith.

    We should all stop looking to people who have success in order to instruct us, and instead look to random people, that in several cases, seem to be far less successful than we are. Forward!


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