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    Default Sorry, but stop saying sorry!

    Look i know im not the most experinced guy here, and i dont want to tell everyone what they should or shouldnt do but im simply annoyed with some openers that start with
    "im sorry but"
    or "
    "pardon me"
    or
    "excuse me"

    what the hell? has anyone here read the surggested reading? sorry
    let me cool off! nothing agsait you guys do what works, and starting withs orry is by no means a deal break but if to be the most efficent PUA's i really do recooment you read either a book on sales techniques or indeed "Introduction to NLP"

    heres the deal

    starting any open or indeed anything! with Sorry, hate to bother, excuse me and the like gives the impression that you need to excuse yourself(mind the repetision please )
    i was taught this when iw as a door to door salesman, essentialy we had to get across as soon as possible we were equals and not trying to sell them something lol(sound familier) if the fisrt thing you open with is "sorry" it will automatically give them the powe becasue already YOUR bothering THEM and the time THEY give YOU is what THEY feel they should give YOU!

    the power should be yours, if you find you cant help yourself, and sometimes i do, i skim over it as fast as possible. i find starting with the false time constraint gives the impressionthat your not barging in but also that you arnt giving them power, be casue you've already decided your going to leave before they can!

    i hope this helped! but i find it more effienct then building yourself back up from the power in their court, they have enough power, lets get some back
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    Default Re: Sorry, but stop saying sorry!

    Definitely made a good point on this one.

    You always want to be in control of the conversation and environment as much as you can. Going, "Hey, excuse me." You automatically place them in initial control. Yes you can eventually spin it around, but it takes some good suave skills.

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    Default Re: Sorry, but stop saying sorry!

    When do you think it is okay to apologize and for it? or I should just delete this word from my VCB?

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    Default Re: Sorry, but stop saying sorry!

    hell yes delete it, the only situation it can be used is in an neg or as sarcasum

    like
    soorrry didnt realise you were so touchy about the little things - is she alway slike this
    or
    haha! sorry didnt think you'd take it that serisouly

    but event hat at a stretch. its important to remember sorry's and thankyou's are polite and polite is sometiems good but there are plenty of ways to show politeness withotu showing dlv. i thiknk it was either MYstery or Jeffieres who ends any opener that isnt working(if you can beleive they fail to open) with
    "Thank you for your time."
    but for openers never use sorry.
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    Default Re: Sorry, but stop saying sorry!

    I heard a saying once that I really like:

    "Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness. Except between friends."

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    Default Re: Sorry, but stop saying sorry!

    cant agreement more with you guys

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    Default Re: Sorry, but stop saying sorry!

    Quote Originally Posted by Pierrot View Post
    cant agreement more with you guys
    then rep me hehe
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    Default Re: Sorry, but stop saying sorry!

    I have to somewhat disagree with this.

    Who says that "giving away a bit of your power" can't reap bigger rewards than "keeping all of your power"?

    You can pick when to be in control of the situation and when you should actually give away power ( or at least mask your intention of giving power for your benefit ). It is necessary in some cases to apologize.

    For example, if I'm a HB, out with my friends having a good time and talk to them and I'm CLEARLY not out to meet new random people, when somebody from outside of the group comes in and asks random shit like what we do without at least say sorry for interrupting you, I would get annoyed.

    You're not sorry for your desires, fantasies, beliefs, direction in life, dreams, goals, possessions, your overall identity as a human being.

    You SHOULD be sorry if you keep you power just for the sake of it, that is stupid.Being Alpha does NOT mean that you should be a dumb, uneducated and classless asshole.

    This is not what true pick-up is all about.

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    Default Re: Sorry, but stop saying sorry!

    i mean you shouldnt OPEN with sorry. by all means saying sorry wheny ou haev rappore or hooked afterwards really is fine, but opening with a dlv especaily with attrative women doesnt help you at all. and as this is trying to make you as effeicent withw omen as possible in the game, its not nessasary to put yourself at adisadvantage, sure the better PUA@s can handle it, but starting off badly isnt helping you if you acnt easily get it back
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