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    Default Opener for Sororrity Scouts Critique

    My university is having a club week and so I started to think about opening at the sororrity tables. Hopefully I can get some critique on possible approaches. There are three ideas that start with the same cushion which allow me to open up into different conversations... some conversations are very neggy like, and others are more light hearted and naive.

    The Cushion- I'm thinking that it would be best to approach the table with about two or three in the set, hopefully they are not engaging anyone else. I would open with a simple question " So you do you have any free stuff (Not the most interesting question, but it pre-open for where I want to take the conversation)" ... they would reply with either a yes or no. If they were giving free stuff away, it would be easy to develope on whatever they were giving away ... for instance if they were giving away free clothes I would neg them " you're not the most fashionable sororrity" or if they were giving out free candy " everybody likes a jolly rancher (whatever miscellaneous candy they were giving out)." If they are not giving anything away then I tell them " thats a deal breaker, I like free stuff (or something along those lines) "

    After the cushion I then open up with the following:

    Opener One: " So this sororrity thing is it like a cult or something? " This is a very negative like opener but it allows me to bust there balls about my misunderstanding between cults and sororrities.

    Opener Two: " So who's your greatest rival?" this would be followed up with questions like " Which is the most vindictive sororrity?" "So do you participate in turf wars" ... maybe not so extereme, but the idea is to compare it to gang rivalry.

    Opener Three: " Why should I join this sororrity and not that other ?" This is the most light hearted and naive question that I have, which allows me to play with them where they say you have to be a girl to join and I insist that with that attitude they won't get anyone to join.

    Ofcourse my time constraint will be that I have class in so many minutes. Let me know if you think any of those openers would have a chance in hell. I'm new to this scene so forgive my learning curve.

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    Default Re: Opener for Sororrity Scouts Critique

    No.

    You have it all wrong. College game isn't about typical PUA routines, it's all about social proof. Coming from a man in a Fraternity at an SEC School, I will tell you that you will not be successful with Sorority girls generally unless you too are Greek. Most of my hookups happen at greek events with other sorority girls. It's an image issue, Greeks are held to a higher standard than non-greeks, which makes most greeks feel like they are better than non-greeks. Every Greek has this mentality, me too sometimes (guilty as charged).

    By asking the girls if being in a sorority means you're in a "cult", that only shows your extreme ignorance to what it means to be Greek and it will turn them off faster than a creepy comment.

    On the flipside, you can do whatever you want with extreme confidence and good body language. Test your luck and see what happens.

    From my experience- I will sometimes go downtown to the bars with some friends. To open girls, what I would do is think of something completely random (like the Big Lebowski) then I go approach some girls and talk about the Big Lebowski. Hell, it works great all the time as long as you're extremely confident and have the body language to prove it.

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    Default Re: Opener for Sororrity Scouts Critique

    Thanks for the heads up ... for me the college scene is rather difficult because it seems to me that people tend to take me to serious, and I don't mean to offend. My personality is such that I'm 99% not serious, and when people misunderstand that ... it typically leads to tragedy. I'm trying to do things that suits me naturally.

    Personally, generic questions bore me to death and I assume the other person would think so to. However in a classroom environment, would it be best to stay generic?

    " Whats your major? Hows the weather? How many paper clips have you straighten in the past month? "

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    Default Re: Opener for Sororrity Scouts Critique

    Quote Originally Posted by Onyx View Post
    No.

    You have it all wrong. College game isn't about typical PUA routines, it's all about social proof. Coming from a man in a Fraternity at an SEC School, I will tell you that you will not be successful with Sorority girls generally unless you too are Greek. Most of my hookups happen at greek events with other sorority girls. It's an image issue...
    Being in a frat is like a cheat for sorority girls. Nothing against most of them, but hte majority with a pretty sorority girl on thier arm let the end represent the means.* The women will go out with men aligned with their sorority. This system, cleverly sset up by men many years ago, is of great benefit to the men (who get women easily) and to the women (who don't have to worry about attending events without a date).

    The men without a frat need not fret.

    You just have to learn the culture.

    If you are dating a sorority girl, you must unerstand there will be events she must attend with an aligned frat guy.

    You must also understand that women who live together know much more about each others' lives than the average BFF female friendship.
    If you screw up, you will likely have ruined opportunities with the whole house. If you don't screw up, but she gets mad at you, you will have likely ruined opportunities with the whole house.

    However, if you prove yourself to one, the whole house will likely pursue you.

    There are things than being a sorority's boy toy!

    *Meaning: they think they are great with women without any actual ability beyond getting into the fraternity.
    I have failed more than most men have tried.

    Every woman you pass up is a woman you will never have.

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    Default Re: Opener for Sororrity Scouts Critique

    Well to be honest, down to earth yoga girls are more my type. Personally I just wanted to practice openers with people that I thought would be easy before going to a yoga class and screwing up. I understand now that the manner of approach is different for other types of people. To me, I don't have Approach Anxiety as long as I can think of a legitimate reason to talk to them ... though I struggle in transitioning from openers to an interesting conversation. I feel that a good opener naturally transitions for you. What would be your attack approach if you where attending a yoga class?

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    Default Re: Opener for Sororrity Scouts Critique

    I tried yoga once. My attack was trying not to make a complete ass of myself. That stuff is way harder than it looks...and distracting.
    I have failed more than most men have tried.

    Every woman you pass up is a woman you will never have.

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    Default Re: Opener for Sororrity Scouts Critique

    if people take you seriously, use less words and focus more on body language. Ive seen great hookups happen where the guy says a few sentences and walks out with a girl.

    It's a lot better than talking your way to nothing.


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