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    Subtle is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default She wanted to be opened

    A lonesome doe (tall and cute) walked in to local watering hole I rarely frequent but ended up at this past friday night. She walked to the bar right next to me (I was sitting with my friends drinking) and sort of turned her back. Initially I thought a typical AFC thought - what a Btch! turning her back. But then I remembered Strauss text and how mystery interprets this as girl waiting to be opened.

    I walked around to the front of her just at an angle from the bar and this transpired:

    me: well don't you look lost (smiled)
    chic: (face turns red and she starts doing that fixing hair thing nervously)
    me: (started laughing) yeaa? (then motion to my hair the same way as if I was mocking her fixing her hair)
    chic: what's your name? ( laughing)

    (I think the mocking made her system malfunction lol)

    me: subtle (gave her real name)
    chic: I'm rachael
    me: Rachael I've never seen you here (funny thing is I never even go to this place lol)
    chic: I don't come here often I'm meeting some friends (she's fidgeting in her coat locking eyes with me which was creepin me out lol)
    me: what are you doing? (reached for her fore arm which paralyzed her but then she gave it freely)
    chic: (bringing nothing from her coat then she smiled and said I was trying to get my cigarettes)
    me: lets go outside
    chic: k (smiling)

    Ok, She asked for my name then I gave it. I just told myself at this point she wanted me. "Knowing this" I decided to take a big risk by gently grabbing for her arm. When she gave it to me smiling I felt all the work was done with the approach. I talked with her outside trying to deduce real topics from her. I was trying to honestly get to know her so there was little game being played unless you call it qualification (her to me). She seemed ok I suppose. No Kiss close but number closed. She texted me the next day.

    In summary, I think reading her ioi's was the key to this number closing. Without the reading I may have disregarded her for turning her back. After interpreting the non verbals I just wanted to play around a bit. She gave me that opportunity by fidgeting so much. Whether she was nervous or not I can only assume. In assuming I used that to mount my attack by "mocking her" playfully. I'd imagine with the IOI's given one may think to do everything else differently but I have been playing to a philosophy of I'm the captain here. I want her to be waffling on the idea if I like her or not when she leaves. The more I can keep her on that line the more I can figure out who she is which in turn will allow me to decide if she is worth the long haul. I am a AFC aspiring to be a PUA for the purpose of finding a long term mate so I am always keeping that in mind here. And consider that when reading and critiquing my "game". I gladly accept critique and encourage it!! I always like to get better and feel I have ways to go.
    manana ,

    Subtle

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    Default Re: She wanted opened.

    I think that was very well played. Good job noticing the proximity approach. Also, good job coming at an angle, reading her ioi's, building Kino and number closing.

    the fact that she text you is also a big IOI. I would suggest working to get her to another Comfort building location and working it from there.

    Keep practicing and you you will get Kiss Closing down.
    There is no such thing as rejection, only feedback.

    Be the flame, not the moth.

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    Subtle is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: She wanted opened.

    Nice, Thanks man! I will do that next time. Appreciate it.
    manana ,

    Subtle

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    Default Re: She wanted to be opened

    Awesome definitely going to use this one some time!

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    Default Re: She wanted to be opened

    I know people say you shouldn't believe what you see in the movies, but that line sounds like it came from one and most of the time it never works. I'm amazed that some of the openers on here are as successful as you guys say they are. Good job on the contact though, I would of just pussed out.

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    Default Re: She wanted to be opened

    Now why is a girl turning her back on you interpreted as an ioi?

    Can somebody explain the female psychology of this? Is it "Lets see how brave you are" type of body-language shit test?

    I can't apply any techniques i learn until I understand the science behind it first. otherwise i feel like I don't really know what I'm doing, so if anyone could explain this to me, it would help out alot

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    Subtle is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: She wanted to be opened

    Sorry for the late response puppet. I can see it as a Sh1t Test. But really it falls into a category or repeated eye contact and excessive smiling. She approaches consciously or subconsciously based on her perception of you or the group you're next to. It happens repeatedly when I'm at a bar. The only thing I can tell you for certain is that when a girl comes close and turns her back to me, she is always the easiest to open. Give them a whirl when they do that crap. You will smile about how easy they are at that point. Post feedback mon. Happy sarge!!
    manana ,

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    Default Re: She wanted to be opened

    Smoooooooth, haha love the "be the flame not the moth" interesting

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    Default Re: She wanted to be opened

    This is actually pretty interesting. Research shows that women in relationships consistently feel that they chose their current partner, even if the guy did all the work. They basically rewrite the memory in their heads. But using that as a base, one can derive that the woman is more open and receptive when she does something like that. Moreso, considering the invasion of personal space. I suppose they really are trying to get you to talk to them and turning their back is THEIR form of aa/ rejection defense.


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