Bringing up the topic of sex

True, probably best if she brings up crap like that, which she just might do anyway. I bet her best girlfriend won't say "those shoes are sexy, grrrrr" though

Nyahahaha... we'd probably say, "Those shoes are so sexy, arrgh, you think I can borrow them?"

But seriously now. We like certain shoes and outfits because they ARE sexy. Stilletos are sexy because they are phallic. Women don't have a problem saying that something is sexy on another girl (even if we may be jealous). I think guys should be safe with simple, "You look nice." with matching smiling eyes or an intent, appreciative look. I think the rule is, tell us we're smoking or delectable in a certain outfit, but don't ever say that a particular top is sexy. Or... to keep it simple, just call us Sexy (as in, "Hey sexy, do you come here often?")

And any guy telling us, "those shoes are sexy, grrrrr" would bring to mind images of a guy rubbing his face with our shoes. Not exactly a turn on.

LOL, forget the shoes then. You know damn well though that anything said the right way can go over quite well. One of my buddies just says "hey you" a certain way and it's off to the races quite often. I say "Hi" a particular way and someone's face will just light up IF it's said right.

I almost didn't post this cause I thought it might come off as "be a weirdo", that's not what I mean, don't be a weirdo. Also, Em sure someone in the community disagrees, this is my stance, and it works for me, most guys here are too freaked out about their insides to get this right on the outside.
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I love sex. I'm a sexual guy, I have an extremely high libido, and I like sex to be risky, and full of tension and surprise. I love that! That is part of who I am inside, and I let that part come outside in the way I move, in the way I talk, in the way I direct my hands though a story, in how explain my emotional states and energy when I recall a past story, I have a Lions hunting Zebras on the sahara story that stinks of sexual undertone.

I am a living sexual undertone. If a women wants to be in my world, she gets it from step 1. Sex. farking. Banging. Hot, steamy, risky, Animistic behavior, being taken over by another person, that's part of the package with me.

When I meet a women who I might like to have sex with, I have ALREADY STARTED having sex with her. In my world, everything is foreplay when you are interacting with a lover or future lover, its a delicate dance, but if you go from standing to suddenly dancing, you are odd, if you go from dancing, to dirty dancing, that's ok.

My point is, a man should be considered a sex candidate from step 1, if he comes from a sexless position, into any level of sexual undertone, it just seems odd, if he goes from maybe sexual, to yep, that was sexual, that's not so odd.

True. That's why so many end up 'friends' b/c they're trying to be friends instead of lovers

For me, complimenting a girl's outfit, shoes, and bags is not a guy thing. Instead, give her a compliment how she looks. See her as a whole not just by her shoes or outfit.

Never underestimate the power of using eye body language in flirting with the girl. Use your eyes to show attention, appreciation, acknowledgment. Use your eyes to say you like what you see and what your intentions are. Use your eyes to undress her and make love to her. Many a girl have fallen, or given in, just because a man was able to mark her as his even while she was being played by other men.

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I'm sorry to tell you man but it's kinda gay when you do that. I mean, most girls appreciate those kinds of things to each other. But guys don't. However, you can still give compliment to them by giving an overall impression like " You look great!" "Damn, you're so beautiful!"; rather than "Your shoes look pretty" "I like your coat"

On a related note, sometimes, you may have even started being physical but there's LMR. A girl can change her mind or just feel torn about sex, a typical downside of rushing into it too soon (mmm... ohhhh... ohhh... we really shouldn't... mmmm... oh I really shouldn't)

Deym isn't it?

So I guess that's the advantage of having the girl comfortable with you in a lot of places and a lot of different situations
before going in for the kill. Am not saying I wait, am just saying, waiting isn't always bad.

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....dont be a social robot.....Do not seriously ask the question "Am I allowed to comment on a woman's shoes", come on man!! If you actually find the shoes interesting than yes , you can, if you are just being a dork, then don't.

I think your posting to the wrong thread my friend. But anyway, I will try to give you my thoughts about it. NO! For me, it's a big no to notice shoes and bags. It's kinda gay for a guy to appreciate those stuff.

Ermm... I was reacting to a post within the thread. Plus, I believe there is another one here where commenting on shoes was suggested and I was really, "Wtf?" with that, which is why I asked. Anyway, moving on....

Exactly! I don't thing noticing shoes and bags are a guy thing. I believe those comments are commonly heard from girlfriends who meet up in a bar or cafe and their one friend wears these shoes and carries a bag which is hot on the market.

To all of you guys debating over wether you are allowed to notice a girls shoes, I have a question for you. Are you going out sarging 4 times a week every week, opening 100 sets a week, approaching every single interesting person you see? Or are you reading e-books all day, planning for when you think you have every possible detail, every scenario planned out in your head, so that you can finally try something?

This is total AFC talk, go approach 20 women at the super market and compliment every single woman's shoes, it will take you 90 minutes at most, and you will be way ahead of where you were when you were asking these Chump questions.

Do I need to be any clearer?


edit: It just matters, if they really are interesting shoes, than yea, if you are just trying to keep the conversation going cause you are boring, then no probably not.

If Brad Pitt says "Nice Shoes", it was a hot comment, if Nueman from Seinfeld says it, hes a weirdo, do you get it yet?

It's not what you say, its why you said it, its how you said it. Stop focusing on the actual words so God Damn much. And get your ass out and start sarging.

I would use the 'question game' evert time. Starting slow, but increasing intensity in each question. It helps to mix in negs, like 'your're not very adventurous are you!?' She will then want to prove just how adventurous she is, so she will then be the one who is making the conversation more sexual. She may not even realise thats where u wanted to lead it. Subtlety is key.
Rhino.

This is too good to pass. Bill posted a great link in the 'end the year with a bang' thread and am reading it and one of the suggestions there is to tell the girl you're kissing for New Year that 'just because you kissed her doesn't mean you'd be sleeping with her, because she'd have to wait for next New Year's Eve before you give up the goods'

It's casual and very appropriate... I hope people will get to use it in a few hours.

Of course, try to escalate as best you can and take advantage of the overall generous and cheerful mood girls are in...

if she ain't talking to me about sex with in 2 mins then she has gotta be given the ass
mates agree with me more when i say 50 seconds though

Questions relating to movement, body, sweating, etc may help in bringing up the topic of sex. Feign sore muscles and start talking about masage, which all girls love, and move on to preferred oils, whether or not they light scented candles... and then say something about how you've been practicing massage, or have been told you're a natural, and offer to massage her hand (ask her how you can improve, what feels good, etc)

I will try that opener on "Noticing shoes". I'll see how it works..

typhoon i just can't get congruent on this line. I love being massaged and i love massaging just I haven't been able to get this one going for a while and when chicks do massage me i cant think how it began... you reckon feigning sore muscles....? help me out on this one man, cos I reckon if i get this going I can set up 10 pins and knock em down lane after lane after alley