Bringing up the topic of sex

Typhoon · #41 01-08-2010, 11:40 AM

Lemme see. I have done the "pretend neck is aching a little" and if girl doesn't immediately show concern or touch it lightly, I stop doing that. Or I do some back stretching and just say aloud that I need to get my ass off to a masseuse and girls would usually say, either they love massages or ask me where I go. I then ask them if they prefer Reflexology with all those pressure points thing or Swedish, and then ask if they've heard of erotic massage, Thai massage, etc. Some girls offer the information that they like giving massages, or they give good massages so i just give them my hand and ask them to show
me. Sometimes, I ask them if they've heard of the DIVINE HAND JOB and for sure they'd laugh, but then i'd just take their
hand, call them on their dirty mind, and begin massaging their hand. Or I ask them to give me a sample of DVJ, like, "Let me see your hands. You look like someone who can give me great DVJ and I sure need one." They'd ask what it is, initially be confused what I was talking about, and I'd explain, they'd laugh and make feeble attempts at massage (mind you, some girls, if they're into you, will massage to impress).

Coyote · #42 01-11-2010, 06:34 AM

cheers typhoon,
am gonna have to try that one by degrees or in stages... i have sorta started down that road with a few but no go. do you reckon getting the location or the right place is the go...? i reckon i have started down that road in inappropriate places for any of my girls to rub my back or dig their thumbs in to my neck

keep it up my sleeve. i got a few other milestones to reach on the way to DHJ

But i gotta say sex must be talked about real soon after meeting. GM style rocks. If a chick cant talk filthy then she aint no whore in the bedroom

Typhoon · #43 01-11-2010, 11:33 AM

Well Coyote, it certainly won't work in a really loud bar where you guys can't hear each other let alone have space enough to hold hands. Haha.

Loner · #44 01-11-2010, 05:20 PM

holy Sh1t i need to get on more!

i had a video of a way not to bring up sex. here it is

enjoy it

rate this routine: how to video

(just thought about this)

Show her this video more likely in a comfort building area, like your home (YouTube - online dating) and talk about how you would totally be the guy. Talk about how you want to do this with her, but the only problem is that shes always out living a fun and exciting life with the most protective people in the world (not verbatim, most of this is off the top of my head so .... work more on this.)

[you do this to add value with you, cause she will do a short term memory check, and the longer you've been in contact with her for a decent about of time... the better! I guess I would call this the first brick(s) for starting that time bridge]

Afterwards (you can talk about how other guys, bf for example, would remind you of the guy in the video because they're creepy and only want sex. this gives you another IOI, and IOD to your competition or if this isnt a problem) you can talk about how the movie is really a parady of what women really want, a guy who has amazing qualities about him, yet also has a wild side!

From here you can run the women are "sexual predators" routine and go into how they use mind games and this should get you in the nice fluffy bed. From their, you need aLOT of LMR breaking techniques and you need to FREEZE anytime you run into LMR!

rate this and plz post any tips on where to take this from here

Loner

Pinai · #45 01-14-2010, 05:19 AM

Maybe you can also bring up the topic of sex while you're all still with a group, say a slightly big set in a bar or house party. Am sure you all know this drinking game where each one gets to make a TRUE statement and all those who have done it, or has the same true about him/her, has to drink.

I have gone bungee jumping.
I like massage.
I am still a virgin.
I have wet dreams.
I have fantasized over a professor.
I am sexually into someone in the room right now.
I swallow.
I suck.
etc.

Then after, once you've isolated the girl, you can talk about the crazy game and maybe even bring up that you noticed that you both liked 'to kiss for hours'

Solomon · #46 01-14-2010, 10:52 AM

Haha Pinai. That's certainly one way of using that game. My buds and I used to just play that to get everybody wasted, which is certainly not something we wanna happen to the chick we're picking up. But still, maybe we could get the boring ones wasted instead. Maybe they'd flash their boobs or something at least, haha. Keep the statements boring, like...

I'm still a virgin.
I have not engaged in threesomes.
I don't kiss strangers.
I don't give BJs.
I have not been blindfolded.

Oh wait, you're supposed to say TRUE statements. Haha.

Pinai · #47 01-15-2010, 10:56 AM

Well, this is certainly not a first date idea but maybe you could get your girl to go get a couples massage with you. Some spas even have a private sauna you can enjoy together aside from the private massage room where there's some level of nudity. A very few but well-placed "mmm" or "that feels good" can even help.

Typhoon · #48 01-19-2010, 12:22 AM

Play games!!!

Was hanging out with friends at my friends' place last saturday night and one of the girls brought out this love dice thingie (one dice had bodyparts and the other had action instructions) and we were having fun with that. I got to kiss three girls by just rolling the dice. After most of the people have left and the rest of us still there were drunk enough, my friend (the one hosting the party) took out his glow in the dark sex dice set (it's a little bit raunchier but not that set with the sex positions and locations). I got to lick ears and lips and touch boobs... and ended up making out big time with one of the girls after (the one who had to lick my nipples).

Not a good ending though as I forgot to get her number. Haha.

And I doubt it's something you can bring into a bar 'coz you'll look like a perv. Best for house parties probably.

ViViD · #49 01-22-2010, 02:34 AM

As far as bringing up sex as a topic, I always avoid even saying the word "sex". It just totally breaks that sexual tension and lets her know what's on your mind...and I loathe being indirect. I'm direct about everything but sex, and her beauty. I usually mention sex without mentioning it, for example, if she's wearing sexy heels I'd say, "Alright, those heels stay on at all times, no matter WHAT is happening." Does she know what I'm talking about...or is SHE just thinking dirty? This creates sexual tension.

I just consider the fact that girls catch hell for being sexual way more than we do. You gotta make her feel like it 'just happened', but participating in a big sex conversation before-hand might make her feel like she helped initiate it. I've never talked about sex before bangin a chick for the first time. Also, I always try to beat her to LMR. For example, you get to the seduction location and say, "Now don't get any ideas. I just came here to hang out", or "I'm loving the vibe we have going, so there's no need to rush things." When you move in for the kill, she'll think you're doing it unconsciously, and BOOM, it "just happened".

-ViViD

Solomon · #50 01-23-2010, 03:32 AM

Yeah. Being direct seldom helps because it's almost like you said "she's slutty and you like it" instead of just being a sensual, sexual, open-minded chick.

culturedpearls · #51 01-23-2010, 11:37 AM

Do you guys know of this eggbeater type of head massager thing called the Orgasmatron? Well, it's proven useful sometimes. It usually tickles a girl but also really relaxes her and I have yet to meet someone who didn't moan or something while using it... and voila, there is my opener!

Kheaven · #52 01-23-2010, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mwood245

Talking about sex is always difficult with a girl who is more conservative. However, you have to read the girl. A couple days ago i got a girl to tell me nearly every place she's had sex, what's her favorite position, what she likes and doesn't like in bed and how many times she masturbates. With this girl i was direct but i did it through a method called the "Question Game".

The "Question Game"

MO: To get the girl to tell you things about herself while she learns about you at the same time.

Rules: The questions you ask must reveal something about a person. Eg. You cannot ask "what did you eat for breakfast today". Second, you cannot ask the same question back at a person. Eg. If i asked "When was your last BF?" she cannot ask "When was your last GF"

Note* This is a little tidbit for us to laugh at. Never did i say in the rules that you couldn't lie. That means you can sugar coat the truth a little if she asks you something. NEVER TELL HER THAT SHE CAN LIE! If she's on the ball she'll figure it out. But most girls will divulge their intimate secrets pretty easily.

Now, how does this game lead to the topic of sex. First begin with underlying sexual questions. These can be like "when was ur last kiss" "When was ur last bf" "How many relationships have you been in" These light questions can go on for a bit and you can judge how ur girl is reacting. The second stage is more prominant sexual quesitons or acts but still going easy with the detail. "When was the last time you made out" "Have you ever been really attracted to one of your teachers/friends/neighbours etc..." "When is the last time you had sex" etc... Then, again watching her comfort level, move into more sexual questions with detail. "How many times do you masturbate" "are you horny alot" "have you had sex in public". You can even get into really really intimate subjects if the girl is comfotable. "Whats your weirdest fantasy" "Have you ever had sex without a condom" etc...

This is a good way for both you and her to talk about sex. And you are in control to comfortably lead the questions where you like. If you are talking about sex questions, so should she. Note* if you are, and she isn't, slow it down a bit, you're making her uncomfortable. Then you can scale back ur questions another notch. Never let the game go too far too fast, or go away from creating sexual tension. If you start talking about favorite movies. End the game. If she starts asking you really personal stuff fast, end the game. Tell her you can't talk about that stuff this early in the game (creates attraction) or move to Kino and Close.

Yeah, the questions game is what I'd recommend also.

Pinai · #53 01-25-2010, 12:34 AM

It helps if you're an artist or into artists or those who appreciate art (sculptures, paintings, portraits, even fabrics and other things that include design)... I dunno, I just think it's real easy to engage them cerebrally and transition to sex (by talking about favorite subjects and the texture of things). Plus, artists, in general, are freer-spirited than usual

braddeltone · #54 02-24-2010, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystery_wannabe

I've seen on this forum where people say "use the topic of sex" to increase arousal of sexual interest. I believe it works, I know it works for me because a girl has done it to me.

But, if a girl is rather conservative and I wanted to bring this topic up and try to push things through, what can I do to remove the negative connotations and increase my attraction?

hey wannabe,
if a girl si rather conservative. just move on man. plenty of game out there.

however, if want to keep the game.
this guy is right:
If you are talking about sex questions, so should she. Note* if you are, and she isn't, slow it down a bit, you're making her uncomfortable.
Then you can scale back ur questions another notch. Never let the game go too far too fast, or go away from creating sexual tension.

monitor the game. dont let it go too fast. intuitively, take baby steps.

Ace_Of_Chase · #55 03-21-2010, 04:57 PM

You can always ask her an opinionated question about sexual innuendos, but make sure she doesn't get the idea that it is directly related to her. You should build UP to the point where you discuss HER, and even to the point where you discuss what You like.
Once she starts answering your questions, you can take what responses she gives you, and build the conversation according to what you want to get into.
Strike Gold, Guys.... Strike Gold...

Storm · #56 05-27-2010, 02:50 AM

if you mention shoes, try to do it in a more manly way like "man-confusing" showing that you know nothing about womens shoes, and that you need to be taught. Eliminating you from the "just a friend" topic. I also like to use shoes for negs, cause this also isnt too womanly, like example "man, i like your shoes.. they must have been really cool when they were new?" (Also notice i said i LIKE her shoes, i never use strong words like love or hate, i dont wanna seem too unmanly and sensitive...)

john dice · #57 05-29-2010, 09:46 AM

You can bring up sex or maybe she does and what matters is that it's normal and natural for us to talk about it.
the moment somebody acts nervous, the magic is gone.
I'm not saying that we should brag and talk about (or make up) a bunch of girls we slept with... but just being able to "not have a problem" with the subject is cool. and she'll appreciate it!

JD Dallas · #58 06-11-2010, 10:30 AM

One of the techniques I've found - and I'm sure a lot of you have - that works well for getting her thinking about sex is to talk about sex....but not in the first person. That is, "other peoples" sex - or sexy topics.
Like telling her you know about a couple who had sex on the roof of "this" buidling...for example.
It's an indirect way of getting on the path.

Another good way, I have personally found, is to use descriptive language and talk about situations that she can picture herself in with you - and that naturally have a "sex" connotation. And if she "goes there" it was HER idea.

For example, telling her, "you know, I LOVE sleeping in on a Sunday morning...drawing the shades and messing up the comforter and turning off the alarm....when there's a warm summer breeze blowing through the bedroom I feel like I could stay there all day....until it's time to stroll down to the coffee shop for some dark roast..."

Lots of sights, sounds, smells - that put her there with you. It's an innocent way to mention, "bed" "bedroom" and the connection between saturday night hook-up and sunday morning....it doesn't mention sex, but clearly will have her imagining herself there with you.

Same technique works for just getting her in a good mood. Describe the feeling of laying on the beach, sun beating down on your neck, the sound of the waves and the smell of coconut oil, sand and salt with with a warm breeze. It's like saying, "pink elephant" - you can't help but picture it in your mind.

when all else fails, say, "Blow me in the bathroom?"

: )

Davinci · #59 06-24-2010, 11:41 AM

I recently joined so forgive me if I am out of line in speaking. But my problem is not getting a woman to talk about sex. Usually within 10-15 minutes they are talking to me about all their sordid behaviors and such. I don't usually know how to respond to this other than not paying it any attention. What would a PUA normally do in this situation? I can drive innuendos until the cows come home but I am not certain where I should take the conversation other than to my place at this point even though I've only met the person and known them for a handful of minutes.

Spartan301 · #60 07-15-2010, 07:58 PM

I can see how sexualizing a conversation can feel like such a challenge, considering how taboo it seems in today's society. It seems like everyone likes to read up on the latest sex scandals, best techniques (Cosmo magazine is practically cover to cover sex), and funniest sex jokes.

That, to me, shows one thing... it's okay.

Yeah, really, it's okay to talk about it.

HOW you talk about it, especially to aquaintances, and women you just met, is the real trick.

The easiest, simplest way to sexualize any sort of conversation is through INNUENDO.

Innuendo can be a powerful weapon, and an easy way to let the girl know that you're not afraid of the topic of sex. That's incredibly important, because how easy do you think it is to have sex with a girl when the topic isnt even close to being brought up? Short answer, it's not.

Let me give you a couple examples of easy sexualizing of a topic:

One time, at a house party, I saw a group of 4 people rush into a bedroom while giggling. I just happen to be near the bathroom at the time alongside this girl, as we were waiting for it to open. When I saw the group close the door behind them, I look to the girl and mutter with a smirk, "I hope they know the bed in there is only queen sized. They might not all fit." She giggled, and we got to talking later.

Another example came from one of my mentors, as we were talking to a girl during a meeting. Outside the window was one of those towers with a wide base, skinny neck, and wide top. Yes, think 'little mermaid'. My mentor was talking about taking a few photos at the base of the tower, then jokes, "yeah, that's not metiphorical." We all laughed.

The backbone principles in these two examples are the same:
1- Make it lighthearted. Sex is fun, isn't it?
2- Make it a 3rd person perspective. This is very important, as you don't want to put the girl on the spot, so to speak. Saying something to insinuate her to act sexually just makes you sound perverted or invasive. Remember, you're building an ally to your sexual adventures.
3- Keep it simple, yet intelligent.

Hopefully this idea helps. Try it, and let me know how it goes.

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