My friends don't understand what I'm doing and trying to achieve

Hey guys!

I have a question. You see, I have my group of friends, and none of them know about this whole PU-community. Interesting thing is, that they've had more experience or "luck" with girls than I had.

So I've been talking to a good friend of mine, who's good with girls, knows very well how to banter with them and tease them (all that attraction stuff) and when I'm in some sort of dilemma I can ask him about that.

So we've talked about how I am trying to meet new girls.

He said that I shouldn't be doing those cold approaches because it makes me look weird.

You see, the problem is, that I've been approaching for quite some time now and at the beginning I wasn't very good at all. And because I live in a semi-big town there are two destinations where we go out on weekends and both of them I've crashed and burned to some degree.

So he said that people have been noticing that I'm approaching girls and I get blow out, and because this is smaller town people know each other and they talk.

So because I'm doing this, I may be assumed as a guy who's approaching girls and says weird stuff...

He gives me points for having balls to approach them but that all in all I shouldn't be doing this.

Then I said to him that it's the only way I know how to have a chance to Meet Girls or meet a future girlfriend.

Meeting through social circle is not really an option, because all the ones I find cute aren't interested (otherwise I'd noticed that already).

So what should I do?

I do appreciate his opinion about that, and I know I've been sometimes saying stuff that perhaps shouldn't been told, but now I'm trying things in a different way. Also I must consider the fact that because of the area I'm living in that the groups of people haven't changed since I've started, girls who I've already tried to pick-up are just older now and rarely new are coming to this part.

Do you understand what I'm trying to say?

ouch a small town, you should try the next town then.

im curious what weird things have you said to woman?

First thing...hats off to you approaching even though you have not had the best success, but hey you have learned some lessons and you can never fail unless you give up and quit. I mean come on how many of those girls are going to remember that 2-5 minutes in 2 years ? Next time you go to Wal-Mart and see a hot chick I wonder when the next time you will see her? Probably never so don't beat yourself up over some sets that didn't go great. As long as you LEARN from the situation you win in the long run. I remember Matador talking about how how small a trade it was....500 cold approaches in trade for the skill set that will make you a god for lifetime. Now I completely whored this quote up, but the frame stays the same. The skill set, confidence, understanding of dynamics, and just being more comfortable with talking to females that you would get from doing 500 cold approaches, in the long run, would dramatically improve your life. I agree in a really small town it is better to travel to the next city....cold approaches ? what kind ? If I were you I would NOT go direct and would always use an indirect approach such as over the shoulder. Make sure your body language is correct. BODY LANGUAGE IS HUGE !! I was having problems in sets a little bit and then I fixed my body language and BOOM !!!! HUGE CHANGE !! Do NOT peck !!! Also be sure to use a false time constraint at the beginning. You could just go to the next town and go out and spit some day game at the mall and depending how old you are I would suggest going to the club. As far as your friends go I would not mention it to them...they have to be really open minded and this is hard to find. I will say this...out of the 3 people I have given the honor of showing them the power of social dynamics and let them borrow my Mystery book and gave them the heads up on where to find more and opened their mind. Every single one of them has told them that it changed their entire life. My best friend dre has 5-6 8.5-9's txting him wanting to kick it EVERYDAY! Do not worry about what the masses say...they simply do not understand. My three friends, myself, and as well as everyone else here that has toughed it out can vouch that this is the real deal. It works, just like everything else in life, if you simply do not give up and learn from your mistakes.

First off, NICE JOB!
you may have got blown out but i work with so many guys (phone coaching) who just want to "talk" game. They're fans and they NEVER approach. If you keep approaching you WILL get good, no matter what. (theory is a small small part of the equation, in field experience is what really gets you laid)

Second,
you have to understand the "social matrix" so to speak.

without going to in-depth suffice it to say that small town game is a LOT different than big city game. Small town = social circle.
If you cold-approach girls in a small town and strike out word gets around and your social value gets cemented quickly! If you cold approach in a big city and get blown out you have a ton more girls you can approach because only a few girls have made a negative social judgment about you.

hope that made sense man.

P.S. i lived in a town of <300 people at one time and i ended up absolutely RUNNING that town (not to brag)

I'd be happy to give you some insider tips just email me Matrix@PUAhub.com

well, not really weird, but my friends seem so. These were bits from routines or some words or lines that I found funny at that time.


Well, here it's a bit different. Sometimes I still meet some of girls I've approached and they remember me and also what I told them that time. Yes, even after 2 years :P

Let me give you an example:

I've approached a group of girls - I think it was a group of 4. I did some cold reading to them - one of them was the quiet one, the playful, the boss, the naughty one, the loud one.

Although the approach didn't go well, it was interesting that 2 years later a friend of mine started dating one of those girls and so I've met those girls again and we became buddies. The girls that he's been dating told him, that she remembered that I've approached her and her friends and also what I was saying. Also one of them still remembers the cold reads I gave them...

But there has been a turn in wrong direction in this thread. What I'm asking is how to explain my friend that this is the way I wanna know new women, because when I ask him, he doesn't know what to reply and he's not so open minded to the idea of pu-community so I won't tell him about it.

I admire what you did bro. It's way better to try things out than just sit and wait, without knowing if you get the success you want. I say, it's a small world after all. You will never know when those people in the past will come into you at present. It's quite weird though after all those years (2 years), the girls that you did "cold approaches" can vividly remember what has happened? Well, don't get bugged by it. Sarg other girls around until you find your success. Good luck!

Well the funny thing is, that sometimes I didn't remember who I've approached already and I opened a group who I've already opened and sometimes they played along, sometimes they've said after couple of minutes that I've said that same thing the last time

But I must admit that I've had a huge crisis more than a year ago, because the thing that I was doing wasn't working for me anymore and also friends of mine said that I should stop doing that cause it's weird and it got into my head... Took me almost a year to go back and try things differently...

I think you should cool yourself off from the scene first. Give yourself sometime before going back to the game. During that period, try to learn from others and internalize their strategies and see if it will work on you. And tell yourself that failures can come so that you won't be too disappointed and lose interest in your game...

The same girls that didn't approve of your initial tactics could also be bored with the other guys they have tried in the same town. Just improve your game, I say, and continue approaching. Learn from your mistakes though. Maybe you've been approaching these girls as if you don't know anything about them already when you can use small-town knowledge and gossip to your advantage