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    Default Kiss and number closed on street.

    I am generally a shy kinda bloke so approaching women is a hard job for me. Especially when I am generally very bad at keeping a conversation going and expecially so in loud pubs and clubs. Unfortunately, these are about the only places I can get out to do so over here due to work hours etc.

    Anyway, after an evenings drinking with 2 buddies (where both of them pulled and I didnt get the guts up to even try again ) I managed to get myself lost in the crowd from the 2 lads and the women they were with when we were on the street after the club closed.

    While I was looking for them, I saw 2 girls sitting on a bench so I decided to sit next to them and got talking to the one nearest to me. She was definitely the hottest of the 2 and it was late (and my last chance) so I didnt give a fark basically.

    I opened her with a basic "hello, how was your night" and asked where they had been earlier and (actually) got into a converstion with her. It defo helped that I could hear her which I probably would not have been able to earlier had she been in the same club.

    I was very careful to make sure I kept smiling and keep my nerves to myself and I got a few IOIs from her. One of them was about me being a "happy smiley guy" actually lol.

    After about ten mins, her friend was getting impatient and wanted to leave so I had to make my move fast or they would be gone soon. I kept the conversation going so as not to make it look like I noticed and when I guessed the time was right, I moved in for the kiss and got it .

    I made out with her for over a minute and it was going well but her friend must have done something as she decided she had to go away with her after this but I managed to get her number before they left.

    I reckon I was a bit too eager to get the number. I also rang it to make sure I had it taken down right which probably didnt help either. All went astray on me after the kiss but either way, I still managed to get the k/n close which was a big step for me and some of the advice I read on here when I was lurking did come into play though I admit I was after a fair feed of drink so it didnt all come back to me.

    I did try to get back to her but she didnt answer the phone so I guess thats that (flaked) but a step in the right direction all the same I suppose seeing as how I conquered the nerves at the time so well.

    Any tips on how to get the phone number without making yourself look too desperate?

    Thanks for reading .

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    Default Re: Kiss and number closed on street.

    That's a great story man. You may never hear from her again, but you n-closed and had a bit of a makeout session. That's progress.

    If you want to get a solid number then you have to reach a level of comfort with her. You do this by qualifying her, but qualifying works best if she is attracted to you. Which you said she was giving ioi's so that is a good time. Once you qualify her the important thing is your SOI or statement of interest following her response to your qualification. This will solidify your attraction with her and she will know that you are attracted to her other than her looks so when you call she knows it's not for a blatant booty call that you didn't get to have the first time you met. Hope this helps and good luck.

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    Default Re: Kiss and number closed on street.

    Thanks. I almost couldnt believe it when she reciprocated so well. I usually get blown out barely after I attempt to approach or run out of conversation so I end up bailing out to save face a bit and this one seemed to write itself as it went along lol.

    I definitely didnt build enough comfort or qualify her enough either (though I do seem to remember asking her about some hobbies etc) so that didnt help I suppose and I do not expect to hear from her again at this stage but the make out was worth it though .

    I am still a raw cadet at this so hopefully I will get better as I go along and thanks for the advice .

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    Default Re: Kiss and number closed on street.

    You've done more than most beginners. You kept going (even if you were drinking) and got the makeout. And now it is a clear cut reason now why you most likely won't hear from her and you're ok with that because you know what to do next time. Couldn't ask for a better learning experience.

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    Default Re: Kiss and number closed on street.

    Cheers guys . I guess I forgot to mention one thing about this encounter so here goes.

    It was late at night (3am) and she was most likely after being drinking as well. I dont want to drag the Irish drinking stereotype out too far but going clubbing over here means that most people will have been doing so if they are out at that stage.

    I do realise that drinking does not help your game but I have found a good balance over the years and TBH, I would probably not have been able to muster up the courage to do what I did if I hadnt been a bit pissed lol. However, I do suffer from Approach Anxiety and alcohol does not get rid of that at all from my experience so sometimes, its how you feel on the night that gets you through it.

    I heard no more from that girl anyway and I didnt get out into the city this weekend as noone else was going in (bit of a problem these days) so hopefully I can update you guys with a bit more progress next week .

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    Default Re: Kiss and number closed on street.

    I'm no expert but from what I've noticed that you spent most if not all your time talking your target and what I've learned from Style's books is that you should've got approval from both of them so they didn't have a need to go. Because you got approval from your target she didn't say or acted like she wanted to go judging by the amount of time you made out.

    Another thing is some time ago I did a little a experiment. I approached girls using the time constrain technique. And then I approached girls without using. The result was that I spent more time talking to the ones I used it on before I got the signs that they were getting tired of the chit-chat.

    I kiss closed once but she was drunk so it doesn't really count.

    Nice work

    --Coze


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