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    Default A Nice Christian Woman

    Ok this report starts off with me having just finished a workout and stopping by a cafe to drink some seriously caffeinated coffee. Anyways I see this cute girl in the corner of the shop reading. People are constantly coming up to her and hanging out. Its like shes friends with everyone.
    Im a big believer in situational openers. Something that naturals do and since thats my game, its all i will do. So I ask this girl what shes reading. She instantly tells me its a bible, it has so many sticky notes in it that i honestly thought it was a large planner.
    I look at her a second and bring this up and I follow it with my honest opinion of christianity. That I feel their are too many people that believe their christian and just where the cross but never read it. So we talk for an hour about our varying view of the world. How I always had a hard time believing religion and how I believe I control my fate and she tells me all the evidence for the existence of god.
    First off I did start this conversation with the intention of coming in under the radar. I obviously am not a religious type, and definitly not a good boy. (if theres anybody with a more farked up view of the world on here I'll be surprised.)
    But as im talking to her I become less attracted to her and more interested genuinely in who she is and her body language is indicating she is feeling the exact same way.
    At this point I imagine the caffeine kicked in and I ended up telling her everything about my life. How I have multiple girls im dating, how i can be manipulative. She just smiles and nods.
    I tell her I'd like to be friends but we are so different I don't know how good we really could be. She follows this up with shes never met anybody else like me and that we are more similar than I think.
    Thats where I think I blew it. She had no idea exactly how terrible I am at tricking women into loving me. I told her about how I changed myself over the years and how even my body language was controlled and I was reading her in kind.
    I told her about a girl that was texting me at the time and how I was not really interested in her, I just like the unconditional love from her and that I was trying to figure out what I did to her so I could use it on other women.
    At this point she starts pursing her lips. I farked up I let her see too much of who I was and she didnt like it. I did get her number on the high of the conversation, but honestly I dont think I'm going to use it. I've never felt like more of an evil human being than I do right now. This is going to sound very unalpha but I think she would be much better off in her life without somebody like me in it.

    This is how I think. I am an advent player at the game of life. I guess this is what made me successful when it came to the game, the fact that I see everything as a game.
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    Default Re: A Nice Christian Woman

    I know exactly how you're feeling. It comes back to one of the great debates in the community right now. "Should I tell her or shouldn't I?" It really does come down to personal preference but in my experience it usually leads down the exact road you just described. I think if you told them the more fun stuff and make it sound more like a hobbie than a way of life then they accept it more and are interested. But then comes the talk about manipulation, freezouts, punishment/reward, LMRs etc. Then it becomes a little more real to them and a bit more "evil" sounding. No one wants to FEEL like everything someone is doing is a tactic, even if it is true.

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    Default Re: A Nice Christian Woman

    I live in the South so there are a ton of girls like this. I wouldn't get too worked up on it. Sounds like to me she appreciated your honesty. She knows she isn't perfect as well and that is what she was saying.

    Ultimately, I think she was just trying 'share the word' with ya more than anything. You could still have ran game on her and succeeded but just maybe never f-closed - but maybe so.

    manipulation, freezouts, punishment/reward are not anything to be ashamed about. all PUA artistry is an anthropology class on the evolution of psychology. If we were sitting around a campfire a couple 1,000 years ago this wouldn't be a game but more about survival of the fittest! Truth!

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    Default Re: A Nice Christian Woman

    Hey guys,

    Very interesting thread. I tend to agree with Roland that women are women regardless of religious affiliation and that game transcends. So the opening and the comfort stages - the general conversation would be different but the structure the same. All the attraction triggers would still be the same.

    I have mentioned elsewhere I don't tell girls about pick up. It's a headache I don't need.

    As a last straw you could always tell her to "be fruitful and multiply" (Gen 1:28)...

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    Default Re: A Nice Christian Woman

    Some of my favorite people all in one thread

    I think Virgil is the only guy on here who knows that I'm a Christian. Obviously a ridiculously liberal Christian, but I identify myself [not proudly] as a Christian none the less--furthermore a Lutheran.

    I grew up in hardcore faith. I went to church camp from fourth grade all the way up through high school. It was awesome. I was also a summer camp counselor for two years; each year at a different camp.

    I've had my fair share of these girls. I've even dated a few exclusively. Once again, obviously before I joined The Community. I know couples who didn't kiss until their wedding day. I know HB10's that are in their twenties and never been kissed. I have many of them on the hook, texting me at 3 a.m., knowing they want to date me but won't compromise their values.

    Here's my opinion from where I am in life: There are the girls that are "Christian", and there are the girls that are Christian. Feel free to game the ones that half ass it, but don't fight the real deal. It's a waste of your time and they're honestly happy. It's not beta to choose to remove yourself from their lives and let them be. Sounds pretty alpha to me.

    Most women want seduced, but you can't seduce the truly happy. If she's content, congratulate her and move on.

    One of you would have to compromise. The devout Christian woman will not, so what does that leave for options?

    It's a personal choice.
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    Default Re: A Nice Christian Woman

    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    The devout Christian woman will not
    On point! She can have the feelings but her values will always win.

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    Default Re: A Nice Christian Woman

    Hi guys,

    My experience on the matter.

    A couple of years back there was a very nice knowledgebale religious girl at my work. She was engaged to a very nice Christian man when I fucked her for the first time and the few times after - true story

    Anyways I believe they're happily married now.

    All the best
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