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    Default My Rookie Mistake In Club

    So I went to the club the other night and for the first time just started mad approaching girls. I made a total of 4 cold approaches and the first 3 were just kind of warm up quick sets not really wanting to get things going with them.

    But then I noticed a HB8 and obeyed the 3 second rule and approached instantly. Well we hit it off and instantly she displayed an IOI by asking for my name. I gave it to her after hesitating since it was kind of sudden. Here is our conversation:

    My first words to her were
    Me "You here with anyone?" (This was because a lot of girls I was approaching had a man)
    Her "No" and then points to her female friend and says
    "Just her".
    Me talking in her ear "I just came to say hi because you are flippin hawt." She smiles and says
    Her "What's your name?'
    Me "Bla Bla"
    Me "You know you are lucky I am even talking to you right now because I don't just talk to any girl." (DHV spike along with push-pull)
    Her "I'll take that as a compliment"
    Me " Yeah but it is a loaded compliment." (NEG)
    Her "You with them?
    Me "No"
    Her "Where are your friends?"
    Me " I come in a pack but I am a lone wolf"
    Her "Oh right"
    Me "There's this afterparty what's your number?" "I'll text u right now to make sure it's not a fake number".
    Her "It's bla bla"
    Me "Get your phone"
    Her "You're bossy" Looks to her friend and says "He's bossy"
    Me "You don't know me girl. I am a niceguy at heart but a badboy on the exterior." a slight pause... "That's the only way you can survive in this world...
    Her "Yeah you're bossy but I guess you're right."
    Me "Okay bye Bla Bla"

    I got the right number but this was where I lost my momentum because I had a bit of success and then contracted a bit of oneitis. I couldn't stop focusing on her. Later she started dancing with another guy trying to pull the jealousy card. It's sad because I didn't want to make her jealous by talking to other girls and I missed out on gaming a HB9! I am so upset about not gaming that HB9!? How do I ever recover from this?

    This was a rookie mistake and when this girl started playing hardball I should have followed suit and started macking on other girls. What should I do to stay in the zone and keeping my momentum going? (How should I avoid oneitis?)

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    Default Re: Rookie Mistake

    Sounds like u did pretty good with the whole bad boy thing a bit there, but honestly I think it may have gone astray.
    After the 'dhv spike' part, I think u shoulda loosened up a bit and had fun with her, gain some IOIs to keep it going. Did u just mention this after party, grab her number, and walk off?
    I mean the pickup sounds cool at first, but then it sounds like some thing from a swanky old movie, I dunno lol just sayin
    U know it's good to hang around after, but also stay a bit scarce. U might've just hung out all night.
    I think u pushed the right attraction switch, but maybe didn't stick around long enough for mutual attraction, or comfort. But who knows u may get a good booty call out of it or more
    Hope that helps

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    Default Re: My Rookie Mistake In Club

    You did alot of comfortable things and that is good. Any mistakes you made you will learn from. With that I want to point out two things:

    First, the dhv spike you used. It's risky to do that really early on in the interaction. One thing you want to do before using that is with a concept called "buying temperature." Basically what it means is that if you use the DHV spike AFTER you get her laughing, she will be more receptive to it and believe it rather than if you tell her when she's calm.

    Second, I'm sorry to tell you this man, but it seems you fell for it when she called you bossy lol. You tried to convince her you were NOT in a playful way. She basically qualified you and you responded the way she (unconsciously) wanted you to. A more appropriate reponse could've been something along the lines of "Yes I am a boss. And you are my employee. If I don't see those reports on my desk, we will have to discuss your future at this company.....in private." This is just off the top of my head.

    These are frame games. By trying to convince her, you are basically falling into that frame. However if you accept it and put an even bigger frame, then now it's YOUR frame that's in control. If you are unsure how to ever get the frame back, just don't except her frame with a simple should shrug, confused look, and begin talking about something else, without responding to what she just said. Hope this helps and good luck.

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    Default Re: My Rookie Mistake In Club

    That's some interesting advice. I hope I can apply the pressure like they say to go 20% extra. There was no way really for me to hang out w/her (lack of spontaneity). What should be my approach be then on hanging out w/her longer? Okay so I need to play around with her more and try to extend the interaction longer I know that now. On top of that avoiding oneitis by macking on other girls and trying to get a Jealousy Plotline going. I have to step up my game even more so then! I am waiting 4 days to contact her.


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