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Thread: Playin - using my female pivot for fun

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    Default Playin - using my female pivot for fun

    So tonight, I wasn't planning on doing much, if any, sarging at the club. so I arrived with a good friend of mine. Needless to say, she was very well dressed and her heels made her appear just a few inches below me. She leaped to the thought of picking up girls with me. Well, after a few failed attempts on the dance floor (which were really funny and we both laughed about it), I opened. At the time, there were 3 of us (two guys, one gal) and there was a set of 2 females. I made eye contact with the cuter one of the pair (let's call her HB7) and mimicked her crazy dance move. She noticed and laughed, and they were both integrated into our dance circle. I noticed immediately that HB7 was mimicking a few of my moves as well as throwing in a few fancy ones herself.

    This went on for about 1.5hours and it was just my wing-gal and I and HB7 and her friend left. There were a few events that went in sequence that I'd like to elaborate on. First, my wing-gal and I would dance together every time we hit the dance floor. Is that demonstrating dhv? We've only grinded once, but other than that it was hand-in-hand, shake the hips, side to side, body rolls with the occasional spins. Keep in mind that the music was upbeat, dub step style. After the initial open with the set of two, I introduced myself, got their names and introduced my wing-gal as my friend. I think that the introduction of myself and my wing-gal played a crucial role when it came to comfort-ability, especially after the open.

    So we were dancing in a circle, when my wing-gal gets distracted by a guy trying to dance with her (which he did a great pre-open eye contact, point at her, walk directly to her) and open ("You're dancing with me," took her by the hand and led her to dance with him.) He didn't do a great job building rapport and getting to the hook because he was too busy interrogating her with questions like "What's your name?" and "Where are you from?" and lastly "Where do you live?" Horrible, horrible, horrible. Anyway, it gave me enough time for me to have this interesting conversation with HB7 (my target from the beginning):
    ME: "Earlier tonight, she told me that she's gonna leave me stranded." *laugh*
    HB7: *laugh* "Wait, you guys aren't dating?"
    ME: *smirk* "Haha, no. She's my friend"
    (laugh, take a step back and dance for a few seconds before moving back up to her and saying "Oh, is that why you didn't wanna dance with me this whole time?"
    HB7:She laughed, smiled, kept dancing

    As a few songs went by, HB5 and 7 were grinding on each other for a good 1minute. I wen to HB7 and told her "You really know how to make me jealous, don't you?" we both laughed about it. Later that night, we saw both of them sitting on a bench outside the club. HB7 got my wing-gal's number. When she asked for mine I asked her if she remembered my name. She didn't remember so I told her playfully that she wasn't prepared for my number yet. She laughed about then told me that she'd get it from my friend.

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    Default Re: Playin

    FLo KT,

    What are you, a 12 year old kid?

    No offense, but this girl was into you, and you missed a lot of crucial points here.

    You could have easily gotten her number, perhaps by dhv with the whole situation of your friend being hit on by this guy, and how he was screwing up left and right.

    Honestly, I'm pretty sure she just put you in the LJBF zone, and you're gonna have to dig yourself out.

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    Default Re: Playin

    Quote Originally Posted by DandyLion View Post
    FLo KT,

    What are you, a 12 year old kid?

    No offense, but this girl was into you, and you missed a lot of crucial points here.

    You could have easily gotten her number, perhaps by dhv with the whole situation of your friend being hit on by this guy, and how he was screwing up left and right.

    Honestly, I'm pretty sure she just put you in the LJBF zone, and you're gonna have to dig yourself out.

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    Ohhh!

    You could have totally gotten her number & most likely invited her to go somewhere else that same night.

    It sounds like she was definitely into you.

    I sense that you're at the point where you need to leran how to balance the push/pull & neg/seduce aspect.
    (Trust me, I've been there...)
    I've had to learn how to find that balance by taking the cocky attitude just a bit too far & blowing myself out.

    But the good news is, I think you're on the right track. With a little more experience & practice, you'll start to notice when to pull back the cockiness, & start escalating the interaction.

    For the most part, you were completely on target.
    Another positive thing to point out is that your wing girl managed to get her digits.

    So, if you were to text her, it wouldn't be all that weird. I say go for it!



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    Default Re: Playin - using my female pivot for fun

    First of all, whoever changed my thread title - Thankyou! I wanted to name it "Playin Hard To Get" but I was falling asleep while writing this thread last night. Luckily, I managed to get my point across. I like this title better anyway.


    I forgot to add that HB7 told my wing and I that she will hit us up soon since this was going to be her last week on the island.

    OH, I also forgot to add that HB7 kept looking back toward her crowd, but never went back. So I sarcastically asked her "Why aren't you dancing with your boyfriend?" and she immediately spilled the beans about him. She said that the guy was her ex-boyfriend and he didn't like to dance - she even pointed him out as being in the corner of the dancefloor. I didn't care to look. And later that night on the bench she told me more about how he was mad at her for dancing with some guy for 10seconds. What got me was how much she cared about what he thought.


    tmalonetn, as you mention it I completely agree. How could I have done more pulling and seducing with my target - even if her ex-boyfriend was around? I want to assume that she didn't feel comfortable enough to dance with me because her ex was around. Could I have led her to the other side of the dancefloor? Would that have made any difference? Oh, and about texting her, I told my wing to tell her that since she couldn't remember my name, she could have my number if she recalls the color of the tie I was wearing.


    DandyLion, I think I can imagine what you mean by dhv with the guy hitting on my wing - and failing. But could you explain a few ways I could have done that because all I'm picturing is me dancing up to my wing, holding her hand, and spinning her out of the arms of her interrogator. I just thought it was funny watching her because she kept looking back at me with a "help me" face.

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    Default Re: Playin - using my female pivot for fun

    Just remember that everything you try, can be chalked up as a "learning experience". Whether you have success or not, as long as you can access the info to use what worked & eliminate what didn't, you're making imporvements.

    Leading her across te room might have helped some... but if she was genuinely a little nervous about him being there, her mood may have remained the same.

    All I would recommend is to keep up the good work, & crank up the flirting!


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    Default Re: Playin - using my female pivot for fun

    In my opinion you played it perfect by making the HB7 get your number from your friend.

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    Default Re: Playin - using my female pivot for fun

    Quote Originally Posted by FLo KT View Post
    First of all, whoever changed my thread title - Thankyou! I wanted to name it "Playin Hard To Get" but I was falling asleep while writing this thread last night. Luckily, I managed to get my point across. I like this title better anyway.


    I forgot to add that HB7 told my wing and I that she will hit us up soon since this was going to be her last week on the island.

    OH, I also forgot to add that HB7 kept looking back toward her crowd, but never went back. So I sarcastically asked her "Why aren't you dancing with your boyfriend?" and she immediately spilled the beans about him. She said that the guy was her ex-boyfriend and he didn't like to dance - she even pointed him out as being in the corner of the dancefloor. I didn't care to look. And later that night on the bench she told me more about how he was mad at her for dancing with some guy for 10seconds. What got me was how much she cared about what he thought.


    tmalonetn, as you mention it I completely agree. How could I have done more pulling and seducing with my target - even if her ex-boyfriend was around? I want to assume that she didn't feel comfortable enough to dance with me because her ex was around. Could I have led her to the other side of the dancefloor? Would that have made any difference? Oh, and about texting her, I told my wing to tell her that since she couldn't remember my name, she could have my number if she recalls the color of the tie I was wearing.


    DandyLion, I think I can imagine what you mean by dhv with the guy hitting on my wing - and failing. But could you explain a few ways I could have done that because all I'm picturing is me dancing up to my wing, holding her hand, and spinning her out of the arms of her interrogator. I just thought it was funny watching her because she kept looking back at me with a "help me" face.

    I mean,.there's always going to be a risk, but you miss 100% of the shots you don' take.

    Some people say canned routines work well, but honestly, if you're an interesting, educated person, then run with what you truly enjoy to DHV.

    Regards,

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