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Thread: Close to F-close or "Technical F-close". Need advice

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    Question Close to F-close or "Technical F-close". Need advice

    Hey guys. There is this american girl who is the daughter of my parents friends. I met her this summer with her brother and i went out with them a few times, and i said i was gonna find a spanish girl for him (i live in spain and the guy really liked spanish girls). So i opened like all the sets at a nightclub and his sister probably though ive been with a lot of girls. then she left to germany. we kept chatting a lot.
    then like a month later she came back to spain, without her brother and asked me to meet up. so we ended up going to the beach at night and i escalated and k-closed, took her clothes off, fingered and licked. tried to f-close, but she said: "I dont do this, sorry", tried to get a handjob (same response). tried putting her hand on my dick like Mystery. didnt work either. She hugged me and kissed a lot on our way back.
    then today we wanted to meet up and she escaped at night from her house cause she was not allowed to go out. i took her to secret place i know and we were making out and i asked like Vin Dicarlo: "Do you want me inside?", and she was like "i dont do it, you dont have to do anything to me if you dont want to". I still fingered her and licked again. Acted like i didnt care about not fclosing. I didnt freezout cause i thought she was just gonna leave. She hugged me and kissed a lot on our way back.
    Tomorrow is her last day in spain and my last chance to get an actual fclose. Need an advice

    P.S "Technical f-close" is a term we made up with my wingman imitating the technical knockout in boxing, when there is no actual knockout but you win the fight cause the refery decides the other cannot continue.

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    Default Re: Close to F-close or "Technical F-close". Need advice

    (Credit AFC Adam)

    Tomorrow night when you hang out, tell her right from the beginning that you two are NOT going to have sex.

    Escalate like normal. When she questions, you say that all you said was you weren't going to have sex, not play around.

    Finger her/eat her out. Get her inches from climax (orgasm), then stop. Now walk away.

    Odds are she'll do the same thing to you. Blow if you want, or when she's done pretend that you are too (even though you didn't ejaculate). It's no big deal. You're fine with it.

    You'll have sex from here, and if you don't and she instead throws a pissy fit, tell her what she did before was wrong.

    Now walk away.
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    Default Re: Close to F-close or "Technical F-close". Need advice

    Cody's right. Don't finish her.

    For me tho, I don't wanna F every girl, but play is play, and if she wants you to play with her, she wants to play with you. Don't finish her, tease her from there. Actually tease her the whole night. If you go down on her, while you're down there put her hand on you. Usually she'll go with it. If she's a pain, put your finger over her mouth and say 'shhh', then put her hand back

    Again, if she wants you to go down on her, she's willing to play with you, at the very least
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    Default Re: Close to F-close or "Technical F-close". Need advice

    Thanks for the answers. Couldnt spend any time alone with her today at the end cause she left early and i only met her for a coffee and her family was there, but next time she comes back to spain i know what to do.

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    Default Re: Close to F-close or "Technical F-close". Need advice

    I've never been a fan of freeze outs, to me it just seems like it shows you been affected by it too much. But can see the merit in using it here, due to not wanting to tolerate the behavior of her not reciprocating at all.

    I normally go with I don't do this either or say Respect, and keep leading the situation, since I am a man and responsible for these actions. But it does sound like she is very young if she has to sneak out, could be a virgin or extremely inexperienced where a Freeze Out could merit this where you don't seek a reaction from it. Thus making her want to change her behavior to receive your validation back.

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    Default Re: Close to F-close or "Technical F-close". Need advice

    Heres what works for me man, when the mood starts getting heavy and your making out, slowly move your hand down, rubbing her stomach then back up maybe brushing hair out of her face or holding her face when your kissing her, then back down, lightly tracing your finger tips on her waste, then back up, don't do this fast like a freaking seesaw but maybe a minute or two on her neck then down a minute there, so on and so forth. Then when you finally get in the pants, just a finger and only for a moment, do above moves again, blah blah blah until you finally slip the fingers, of course once you have the fingers in mix it up, don't just focus on one thing, then after a while of that you can attempt to slip the pants off for better finger action, if you know what your doing and you can tell she is breathing hard and what not, go for some kisses on the neck, some ears, lightly breath in her ear, in my experience another thing that sometimes helps is if its dark, and while you are doing your business manage to take out your d***k, lightly place her hand on it, if she reacts positively your in the clear, (most do) if she is taken aback then back off and slowly start again. Remember this all takes time, its not easy, could take 30 minutes to an hour so be patient with her. If she does respond positively then after a while slowly get on top, and while still doing what your doing and letting her do hers then you can try. For me, its worked about 85% of the time, even with girls Ive only hung out with once or so. Patience is the key, you are a hunter, be the hunter. A good hunter doesn't just pounce on the first game he sees, take that how you will. Also, as freeze outs go, the girl has to be really into you, as in she wants it but there is something holding her back. If this is the case and your intentions are to hit it and quit it then I suggest this not happen, however, if your intentions are pure, this has worked for me, it took 3 hours of heavy action then when she stopped my advance me sighing and saying its okay and rolling over, then her trying to start making out again. Its gold, think of it as slowly taking bricks out of a high wall that if you go to fast the bricks go back up, however you set the right pace and keep the bricks coming down, if you freeze her out and continue, eventually she will be overcome by her desire, bingo
    Last edited by PUcowboy; 07-21-2013 at 05:41 PM. Reason: forgot to add something

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    Default Re: Close to F-close or "Technical F-close". Need advice

    She's just like a friend I use to have. She just wants you to pleasure her. She's using a mind game by saying " you don't have to do anything to me if you don't want to" . That's a mind game and a huge reverse psychology. If you really don't care about f-closing her then forget about what I just said. But she's probably doing what the girl did to me when I was Younger. Don't fall for it unless you're ok with that. Next time you hang out with her just kiss her and that's that. No fingering or any of that stuff. Take the power out of her hand. If you really want the power to in your hands don't even kiss her. Just Kino, turn her on and back off like the other guys said. That'll make her chase you if she really wants you to finger her or whatever and the ball will be in her court.
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