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Thread: B1tch Shield? - More like B1tch FORTRESS tonight!

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    Default B1tch Shield? - More like B1tch FORTRESS tonight!

    I'm out sarging with a new wing (he just read MM and is breaking free of AFCdom).

    Was doing well as social bitterfly at my favorite bar, got a few numbers / a few time bridges.

    Just before last call we BOUNCE to another bar down the street - I wanted to field-test a few new openers I've seen and/or posted on the forum.

    I open a mixed 4-set (one couple with two girls) and engage the two girls with the elaborate version of "what is that (flower in your hair) made of? -No, I don't think it's synthetic fiber, it looks like girlfriend material to me!"

    So the other girl whispers something to my target, then turns to me, full faced but calm, strong eye contact (thought it was an ioi for a second) - introduces herself as my targets sister and asks me what I'm here for.

    I say hanging with my boys, *point back, but they moved, "they're here somewhere" (dlv -.-). Then she asks a few more odd questions about me, tonight - then says THIS IS MY SISTER AND I'M HER BODY GUARD AGAINST CREEPS LIKE YOU... turns away and engages her sister in conversation.

    ...CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!

    So I re-ignite the set by turning to the dude (who is pretty drunk) intro myself with "I think I've offended Chrissy somehow." I chat Bromantically with him for a while until the sister starts to see that I'm drawing in the set.

    She wispers to the guy to put a hand on the target - which he does, while me and him keep bro-ing. She engages him to leave me hanging.

    I engage the dudes' gf with a "is she always like this?" at the sister.

    Needless to say I'd been boxing out both sisters since the interception. So the sister turns back to the target and leaves me to hang with the couple.

    In the end the b1tch fortress sister tells me sorry to direct it at me, but earlier some guy was waaay too aggrssively showing interest in her sister - I excuse her (maybe could've Negged, maybe too sensative a situation) and I walk off with a "maybe we should talk some night you don't have to babysit."

    ....Oooo how I'd like to meet her again at a bar, run game and get her to fark me.... mwahahaha....
    DTF HB's omw 2 LTR

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    Default Re: B1tch Shield? - More like B1tch FORTRESS tonight!

    It sounds like someone was in full "Terminator Mode". LOL!! I've actually never run into an obstacle that tough before. But I would have worked the "bodyguard" for a while. Compliment her on doing a fantastic job... high-five her for her efforts.
    Just anything to make it fun & get her laughing & having a good time.

    Then ask her a few questions about some of the "strangest" guys she's had to fend off, & get her talking about all the mistakes THEY made. (That would provide you with some useful inside information.)


    After you get her sharing those things, then you could tell her a couple of your own "horror stories" about freaky girls who wouldn't leave you alone... etc.

    Build that camaraderie with her.... and then tell her something like, "You know, I think it's awesome that you have your sister's back like that. I really admire people with that sort of quality... it shows you have a lot of compassion for the people you care about."
    And so on...

    After that, you playfully say, "I just realized something...I could use your protective services myself! I want to hire you to be MY bodyguard too; just in case one of those 'cling-on' girls comes in. Can we work out a deal? Pinky swear?"

    After that, you've already established some rapport with her. You've established a particular frame about her AND gotten her to comply with you. So now you buy the bodyguard sister a drink.

    This is NOT AFC at this point. She'll take it in the way you want it to, which is a friendly gesture and her EARNING the drink, by providing "security" services for you. (Even though you both know it's just silly role-playing.)

    But by this time, the shield should be down for you, and she MAY even tell her sister "Hey, this guy is actually really cool!"

    After all, you stood up to her, passed her tests, AND made her pass YOUR tests.



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    Default Re: B1tch Shield? - More like B1tch FORTRESS tonight!

    Wow! That's a tricky scenario. Recently I was out with a group of new wingmen. I could see that their mixed set wasn't going well. I came into the set to get them to leave with us to another venue with more potential. They weren't picking up on the IODs and preferred to keep plowing, so I engaged some of the guys in conversation.

    One of the girls, Jenna, turns to me and asks, "Who are these guys? They just took our table and won't leave." I took the chance to play dumb and get some honest feedback about the set. She called my friend "creepy" and explained that all of the girls had boyfriends. The boyfriends were standing by watching the scene with amusement, while the girls were "too polite" to ask my new friends to leave.

    I wish that my story had a happy ending, but the girls found a new table and jumped at the chance to move away. The guys just followed them to the new larger table and tried to Kino-escalate by sitting close to their targets. This is why the Bitch Shield is in full force at bar closing time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Autismus
    In the end the b1tch fortress sister tells me sorry to direct it at me, but earlier some guy was waaay too aggrssively showing interest in her sister
    Quote Originally Posted by tmalonetn
    Then ask her a few questions about some of the "strangest" guys she's had to fend off, & get her talking about all the mistakes THEY made. (That would provide you with some useful inside information.)
    I've found that at the end of the night one of the best opener is just: "How's your night going?" or "Did you have fun this evening?" Looking at the guys standing around outside of the bars, I know that not everyone has accomplished what they came out for. It can be a stressful environment. Sometimes it's valuable to just relate person-to-person about the experience that you guys have had.

    Quote Originally Posted by tmalonetn
    So now you buy the bodyguard sister a drink. This is NOT AFC at this point. She'll take it in the way you want it to, which is a friendly gesture and her EARNING the drink
    Beginning PUAs worry too much about high status, looking alpha and "following the rules." It's good to remain confident, but there's nothing wrong with showing kindness to someone who's had a rough night. Having played the role of bodyguard a couple of times, I know that it gets tiring.


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