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    Default Missed number close redhead!

    Last night me and a few friends, a couple being attractive girls, went out to a local bar that is always packed on Sundays. I wasn't really going for pick up, rather just chill with my friends.

    I wound up seeing this hot redhead, and I opened her by approaching her and simply saying "hey whats up" to which she responded positivly. I asked her what brought them out, to which it wound up being her friends b-day. I rolled off and danced with the girls I was with.

    Next I came back over by her talked for a minute, and asked her if it was her real hair color, or she died it. She said it was real... to which I teased her some and she laughed/smiled, ioi's. Danced with her a bit.

    Here's my sticking point... I ran out of things to say and caught myself going into the dreaded "interview". "So do you guys live around here... blah blah blah". I stopped, but then just kind of walked off.

    She then went back to her friends at a table, hung around a bit, then apparently left. I didn't wind up going for the nubmber, and am kicking myself today for it!

    There was a point tht I was literally thinking of just walking over by her and saying "Were leaving soon, but I'd like to talk with you again sometime, whats your number?" But the thing that prevented me was the fact that I really hadn't gotten into much of a convo with her so I thought it might be weird. But then in a flash her group left and they were gone.. On second thought today I should've just went for it, better to get a no, than not know.

    Would you guys have suggested I just go for it, randomly asking for the number like stated above??? Any Number Close gambits that may have been useful here?

    This is generally the area that I need to work on. I don't have a real problem approaching the girls, and alot of times they approach me, I just wind up either not keeping the conversation rolling very long, or don't attempt to go for the stupid number! Now let me note this dosn't happen during every interaction I have, but when it does happen it is really frustrating.

    Thoughts and suggestions would be appreciated!

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    Default Re: Missed number close redhead!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rando9009 View Post
    Here's my sticking point... I ran out of things to say and caught myself going into the dreaded "interview". "So do you guys live around here... blah blah blah". I stopped, but then just kind of walked off.
    Here is where you went wrong. When you feel this come over you, just stop and either tell her a story or get into a cool little technique. You have to make sure she is always mentally intrigued. Also you can just neg her to buy some time, especially at this point.

    Also I failed to see Kino Escalation in your game. Doing Kino early in your routine may have allowed you to kiss close before things even got awkward.

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    Default Re: Missed number close redhead!

    Thanks Achilies for the reply.

    You're totally right. I mentally know that I shouldn't go into the interview, but sometimes it just happens accidentally when I run dry on ideas. So you'd suggest just going right into a random story if I feel this coming on? And any examples on "cool little techniques"? If I'm really vibed up I've used some little hand games etc which work great, but couldn't get myself to do it in this interaction.

    I did go cold and didn't really throw any negs. The only one that I did which was possibly lame and overused "oh I see you're switching over to water huh? lame (smiling)"

    I did mentally try to throw in a little Kino early on, but maybe it was weak. Just a little arm brush, touched her hair (real briefly though) and danced with her for a minute. I got the feeling that this girl was into me (looking at me, proximity, etc) but shy. Put that together with me getting locked up = no close!

    What do you guys think about my specific question to the "walk up and directly ask her for her number", as a last resort even after a not so perfect conversation. My feeling is I guess I'd rather try and get a no than not attempt (like I did). But it's kind of a ballsy move.. idk.

    Thoughts guys?

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    Default Re: Missed number close redhead!

    Any other thoughts or help guys? Will be appreciated! I think we can all learn from questions addressed in this post

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    Default Re: Missed number close redhead!

    To sum up your entire interaction with her. I think she can easily see threw the fact you missed some opportunities to escalate with her a lil more. 50/50 shot for a Number Close. If you could of added some last minute humor to sweeten the deal just to set you apart from everyone else, I feel it would of helped your chances. But always attempt to close. Missed opportunities are just chances to grow more.

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    Default Re: Missed number close redhead!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonthewildkatt View Post
    To sum up your entire interaction with her. I think she can easily see threw the fact you missed some opportunities to escalate with her a lil more. 50/50 shot for a Number Close. If you could of added some last minute humor to sweeten the deal just to set you apart from everyone else, I feel it would of helped your chances. But always attempt to close. Missed opportunities are just chances to grow more.
    Good insight. So in a case like this where the interaction wasnt the best, how would you have at least attempted to ask for the number.

    "Hey were leaving soon, but id like to talk with you again. Lets swap digits.." ??

    Or id like to hear some other smooth statements for asking like this!

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    Default Re: Missed number close redhead!

    This is where your personality really gets to shine. What works best for you? Dead pan closing abilty? Slight sexual tonality while closing? Or maybe you just got that funny awkward humor (see Keys to the Vip: Phill the Cobra Commander)Its really best to be prepared with canned material for womens different personality types. Its not WHAT you say but the sincerity and the WAY you say it, basicly. Continuously stay in the moment. And observe,observe,obse rve, your surroundings. Its great for coming up with material when your stuck.

    Personally if I was in that situation I would have neg'd her about her own birthday coming up... "So redhead, whens your birthday coming up?...really your that old/young already? Lemme see your drivers licence... BLAH BLAH BLAH. Just keep her on her toes, your the prize remember? You danced with her. Thats a great opportunity to establish some escalating physical contact. Theres a lot of angles you could have went with this after her positive response. By the time you decide to close her you could of easily said something like, "I gotta work early tomorrow I'm leaving, (physically take phone out) but maybe I could teach you how to dance some more ...." You don't even have to say anything about asking for her number, she'll get the hint.


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