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    Default FR: College Game - the importance of C2

    I'm documenting my college game development here. Feel free to contribute!

    I'm at a new college with, lent MM to my new AFC Asian friend who is into younger, short girls (I'm into taller older girls).


    (Lunch) New Targets:

    He texts me to join him and two girls in the food court (an HB4 and HB5 I'd say - too low to f-close but a chance to practice my game and, more importantly, not eat alone).
    I get some solid Negging (mine had been slacking) and he holds up some decent DHV - but still isn't quite Alpha - he's coming along. Both girls n-close me.

    Outside his dorm he says "hey" to an HB7 redhead he knows and I OVER-neg her about a Native American looking bag (turns out she's part Native American, I ask what tribe cuz I'm part Sioux and Cherokee, she says "I'm not talking to you" I say "actually, you are right now"). I can go from there as long as my wing hangs with her on the reg.


    (Dinner) Old Target

    An HB6.5 Hippie I met at a friends' party and n-closed with the tone of "no homo bro" - "hey, no hetero bro, gimme your number beforeI go."
    Went to food court for dinner, ran cube, walked home, light covert kino, probably about 2 hours into C2 by now.


    (Nightcap) Target Fail - Not enough C2

    HB6.5 Black I met through Asian wing, we'd been texting about hanging in my dorm (no roommate, second bed is a couch) to watch Family Guy and drink rootbeer floats. Her fb lists "interested in females"
    About 10 minutes in I realize that I've brought her to C3 with far too little C2 (maybe 2.5 hours total) - but I sarge on to see what happens.
    I run my 30 minute kino gambit (ebb and flow into her space with light incidental kino during the cube, then a riddle, The Path Cold read, gimme your hand riddle, five lies, another gimme your hand)...

    *THE FAIL

    By this time she is leaning in toward me, splayed seductively on the couch, preening and licking her lips and giving me bedroom eyes. I can tell I don't have enough comfort to just go for the kiss.
    Instead I run Mystery's "I saw you think about kissing me" gambit, she makes an "eermm maybe" type of noise - so I disqualify

    "I didn't say I would let you, I'm just saying I noticed your body language - of course your new to college and I would urge you not to be one of those party girls - stack to discussion of body language routine"

    We chill for a while and I end with "this was fun... except for that awkward moment when you thought about kissing me." and it feels sufficiently non-wierd.
    DTF HB's omw 2 LTR

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    Default Re: FR: College Game - the importance of C2

    Hey dude great report. Some things
    1. IT seemed to me like she WAS definitely interested in kissing and more but you screwed up by pushing her away with your words and then ending it
    2. All of your girls seemed to be gotten to through one of your friends or at a party. These are both indirect routes in my opinion since you probably found out about the party through a friend as well so even if you directly approached at the party, the party was found out through a friend. This is fine. Im not saying this is wrong. In fact, college is social circle apparently if you read cyc so it should be fine. My question is how to actually get these friends who can introduce you to girls and get you to parties. I have finished 2 years of college already and have had none of this.. but Ive been content since I cant say roll in the party crowd anyways or would enjoy parties that much. And as for friends, thats a big problem Im still trying to fix. I dont know, Im more of an intellectual guy so the typical dudes who know about parties (I guess jocks, athletic but dumb dudes) I dont befriend? This is a stereotype I guess because there are probably smart people who have party hookups and still do well in class. so yeah.... junior year of college and Ive really had no big interactions except for the few times I was brave enough to cold approach in the day
    3. One last thing - all your girls are ranked pretty low. not really sure what you think of this? are you willing to settle because thats all you got? isnt that a beta thing to do?

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    Default Re: FR: College Game - the importance of C2

    Hey some advice, as soon as you get a semi decent response when you mention kissing - boom go for it. Once you bring it up, you have to be prepared to go the full way.

    By asking and not doing it, you took a half measure when you should have taken a full measure (points to anyone who gets this reference)

    And in the last post comment on the low ranking HB's .. sometimes they are just there and it is fun practising some new stuff on them when you really don't care how it turns out. Plus first week in school. He is easing into the zone! ... but HB4? lol can that even be considered an HB? more GS .. gutter sloot

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    Default Re: FR: College Game - the importance of C2

    I'll have to agree there, should have kissed the last girl. If it comes up in the conversation, and she doesn't give you an obvious sign that she doesn't want you, you go in. It's just common courtesy at that point. ;-)

    Peel, to address your second issue, the best thing you can do is get involved in different activities. Intramurals are gold for this, it's a great way to connect with guys. Classmates can also make good guy friends. You can meet some cool guys at the gym (which if you're a college male, you should be going to anyway), but you have to sift through the douches. Just be social, and you'll be surprised what can happen.
    Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “WOW...What a Ride!”

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    Default Re: FR: College Game - the importance of C2

    @All
    Thanks for the feedback guys! It helps a lot.


    Cuz fark. I see it now. I should have built more comfort/taken control rather than running a push on her. I always feel too aggressive when I have the girl in my room - I'll have to work on that calibration. But Achilies is right - I'm practicing on 6 - 7's so I don't make the rookie/rusty mistakes on 8 - 9's.


    Don't get me wrong, I draw the line for an f-close at HB7. But I've been in an LTR over the summer and my game is rusty. Most of these are low ratings because I'm around a lot of freshmen so I just don't find 18/19 year olds attractive (I'm 23) I have yet to see an 18 yo above a 7.5 on my scale.


    As for the GS4 (I like that, gonna use it instead of NHB) if I was 18 and into petite chick she'd probably be a 6 or 7 - but since she looks pretty young (like almost 30% of her age younger than me) I give her a 4. I tend to err on the low side when rating.




    * Salvage *


    @All

    So moving forward, (with the kiss fail girl) for practicing my damage-control-game, I'm thinking I friendzone this girl with LJBF-style kino. A freezout is my preferred method - but I think that would a) make things awkward and b) not let me practice damage-control and c) loose a brick in my wall of campuswide social proof.




    * Making Friends * ( know this part pretty well... once it gets to sexual is where I fumble)


    @Peel


    Like Bandit says, joining groups, or just being in the same area (gym, dorm, foodcourt, library) warrants you to talk to people and build a social network, because you're "just the kind of guy who likes to meet new people" - and they look interesting.


    Also, for students who are seated while I'm walking, I actually wrote myself a list of fancy little titled maneuvers to influence others in my environment to hang out with me.


    "Fly-by" (before opening) just walking past a set (omw to my dorm or my lunch table) without looking at them to get a feel for their inter-relationships and energy level.


    Open - with a little data from the fly-by find out who is the alpha of the group so as better to open the set.


    "Air Strike" (after opening, wmile I'm walking) when I see a member of a formerly opened set, just greet them enthusiastically, but without breaking stride. This creates a momentary "up" feeling in their day while you are there, which is then gone when you leave. Kinda like being a drug.


    "Touch and Go" (after a few air strikes) once they are "jonesing" for your enthusiastic greeting - walk up to them, engage in conversation (about anything) for less than 15 seconds (probably just five lines You-greeting, Them, You, Them, You-See ya!) this will make you a somewhat regular positive part of their life. Then they will either invite you to hang out ro jump at the idea when you hint at hanging out.


    Also if you can help a guy improve his game you will be the supreme leader of men: AFCs will appreciate and notice the effects of any help and AMOGs will "get stoaked bro" about your helping them with their sticking-points.

    * Class Game *

    We've had no classes because of the hurricane, but I'll be sarging in class a bit tomorrow, so probably more on that soon to come.
    DTF HB's omw 2 LTR

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    Default Re: FR: College Game - the importance of C2

    Those little quotes at the end were actually useful. Ive just noticed earlier today that I tend to stand there and try to converse if they say Hi to me. What ends up happening is they quickly get awkward and silence ensues and everyone leaves. This has happened on many occasions and I think its truly better to just say hi and walk by at times. I think sometimes Im playing the part of 'best awesome friend you get ecstatic when you see' or at least hoping they will see me as that and it all falls apart when the conversation wont last more than 10 seconds and they leave.


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