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Thread: 1st Time Bar Field Report: Need Constructive Criticism

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    Default 1st Time Bar Field Report: Need Constructive Criticism

    This is my first time going out and giving a focused effort to approach women in bars by the way. So I walk in with my buddy (not a bad looking dude, but is very cocky by nature)get a rum and coke. And begin to survey the playing field. Its a bar very close to my place, and tonights def an older crowd, 30+. I just act natural, ordering my drink sorta dancing a lil to the famillar songs I know, standing, bantering with my buddy for 15mins untill I spot a table by the dance floor. I motion to my wing to follow. I took a quick glace around the room, and by the looks of things its all mixed sets. I pause to take in all in...when all a sudden a big rush of people come in from the outside live band area.

    In this herd of people I spot a 3 set,HB 6,7,8 that decide conveniently to settle within ear shot of me and my wing. BINGO. In my head I decide to go with a improv situational opener, then quickly try some canned matieralal to keep there interest afloat.

    BAM...random pool player guy "accidentlly" hits the HB 8 with a pool stick A couple appologys ensue with the 3 set teasing the guy on hitting her was his failed attempt at "pickup" and before I even get to approach the group, HB 6 opens me first.

    HB 6: "You guys look board"
    ME "Iam board! I wanna dance but they keep spinnin slow
    jams. Im waiting for my song to play. I threw the dj
    a request.
    HB 6: "Really? Whats your song?

    We banter. This girl isn't the mother hen, and its obvious shes interested, and I have her attention for awhile. Meanwhile, at the table next to ours
    a group of 3 AFC guys are depserately trying to split the 7 and 8 girls from us, saying random stuff to them, trying to get them to sit with them, yet failed I guess we where more interesting

    I introduce myself to the 6,7,and 8 compliment the 8 on her intricate braids,then immediately neg her on how it took her 3 hours just to make a bar appearance LOL. I engage the mother hen, the HB 7 and continue bantering mostly light neg/teasing the HB 7, in order to get the 8. The 7 seems very talkative and comfortable now the Bitch Shield has been disabled. For awhile I was able to entertain the 3 set almost single handedly (little help from my wing)

    My song finally comes on and I smile and instinctively get up...(kinda left them all hanging) opps...and make my way to the dance floor. I hear one of the girls say "OOOHH yay I wanna dance to this song!" and follow suit.

    My plan was not to close. (WWWWhat?) Yes, I was there to combat my aa mostly, and to gain comfort on the dance floor (I think Id like to focus on dancing as part of my game)in this setting for future outings, more so then worrying about closing (humble begings.)I start "shuffling" and I hear random women compliment my solo dancing. I stop turn around and see the 3 set dancing so I just walk up and start dancing with the entire group now focusing on the 8.

    This is where it gets interesting. Outta nowhere this completely random HB 7 blonde strolls over to me on the dance floor and interrupts (took me completely off guard.) "Hey...you have a thing for her (HB 8) don't you? I'm blind sided...I reply "Maybe I do..." She then proceeds to intercept and dance with the HB 8! My natural reaction was to dance with both of them...(not going down without a fight)so I attempted, only to hear the blonde say "I'm trying to HELP YOU, here." I took that as offensive, I didn't appreciate her drunkin training wheels, so I said "What are you doing? I don't NEED your HELP." Sarcastic smiled, patted her on the back, and set her on her way. Eyes wide and probably offended she walks away.

    That shook my mood. I follow the set after the song ends to the table and they want to leave for the strip club. I tease the HB 8 about her secretly liking women, as all women have hidden lesbian tendincies after shots of tequlia, LOL. I let them just leave...(NOT SMART I Know) I really could have easily number closed the mother hen, which I actually hit it off with more then the HB 8. Aww well, I didnt do much, but this REALLY helped with the AA. But I'm looking for constructive criticism on anything you guys noticed.

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    Default Re: 1st Time Bar Field Report: Need Constructive Criticism

    don't sell yourself short, man you had a great night and you should have n-closed the HB-8, when the girls followed you onto the dance floor that was a big ioi, also the girl who tried to "help" you was trying to cockblock, she probably secretly wanted you, any time a girl aproaches you its an ioi. you should practice n-closing on girls like these, even if you don't follow up or if your n-close gets rejected,you can learn from it. next time you flirt with girls you will attempt an n-close, your next feild report is gonna be titled "n-close on hb 7" i will be disapointed if you don't attempt the n-close next time lol good luck!!

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    Default Re: 1st Time Bar Field Report: Need Constructive Criticism

    Thanks Meteora, appreciate the positivity. I'll work on my closing game as it's probly the biggest weakness in my game. I'll be bringing in more field reports soon. Feel free to critique.

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    Default Re: 1st Time Bar Field Report: Need Constructive Criticism

    This is some good game Wildkatt. I wish more of my nights were this good!

    I only noticed two things (other than not number closing lol - but even that is nbd because n-close isn't the goal, solid game is the goal, and this was pretty solid)

    When you went to dance with the three set and focused on the HB8, the only thing I would have done differently is to focus on the HB7 about half the time, then split the remaining time 25% / 25% between the HB6 and 8. This way you aren't giving any IOI to the HB8 (presumably the target) and ignoring her + jealosy for HB7 + preselection from HB6 will boost your attractiveness.

    I say HB7 jealosy because women tend to see other HB#'s of + 1 as their approximate equals. Thus HB8 = HB7 and HB9 = HB8, but HB8 > HB6. It also works the other way, the HB6 will see you focusing on the HB7 and think she has a shot, start throwing you IOIs and provide some preselection.

    But focusing on the HB8 didn't seem to bea problem really, just something I've noticed to investigate I guess.

    The only other thing I saw was with the blonde cauck blauck. I'm not gonna say you should have number closed her, or that you should have danced with her more, I'm gonna say you should have kept your frame. When she approached with "you're into her, I'm trying to help you" you accepted that as true (in her mind) by repelling with "yeah, I'm into her, but I don't need your help."

    Assuming she was attractive (and if she's an UG4 or something then, yeah, def repel her lol) but if she's attractive then you could have explored it. Maybe she saw you with three girls and would have taken you home, maybe she's an experienced pivot and actually did want to help you get the HB8, maybe she's a friennemy of the HB8 and the HB8 actually has herpes and she wanted to "help you" by informing you of the hazard. Exactly how and why she wanted to "help you" will become apparent if you maintain the frame that "anything a girl says is just an opener for her to get in your pants" and just ran game on her.

    All this is probably waaay more than you're looking for though lol sounds like you had a solid night and met your goal of getting over aa!
    DTF HB's omw 2 LTR

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    Default Re: 1st Time Bar Field Report: Need Constructive Criticism

    Very good sounding night. Sounds like you could have n-closed on any of them possibly.

    I hope to have some solid nights like that to get over my aa

    Today I will take advantage of the opportunities presented to me.

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    Default Re: 1st Time Bar Field Report: Need Constructive Criticism

    Autismus I like the way you think, and MrAmberShades unfortunately your right I very well could have closed any or possibly all of the 3 set! I mean c'mon 3 females on jello shots on there way to a Strip Club...says alot about the set. I have lapses in confidence at times. Your right about using jelousy between the different HB#s to your advantage in a all girl set. I will next time take that advice for sure. But man did that blonde totally mind **ck me lol. I literally had no defence for that. Ya the blonde was an 8 also. And the blonde did not know any of us. She just came to play with the other 8 on the dance floor, interrupting the entire set. So strange.

    I know I need to work on my frame, it needs to not be so weak when encountering resistance!

    I have seen the social matrix, and I am hungry. Being in the moment with that Seductive Aura is exhilarating! And I want to dig deeper. Its like all the Pua stuff I've been discovering, naturally began happening after the intital aa stopped.

    Its like when your in that moment no women can turn you down.


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