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    Default Autismus College Journal #3 - Gay Friend Zone Escape

    P.s. Scroll to the bottom if you just want the Confrontation sans back story

    So there's this HB8 Asian model I've been gaming here is the field report of the pick-up to partial f-close - long story short I ate her to climax then got it in for about a minute until her LMR+ASD+buyers remorse kicked in (I didn't run any of my comfort routines on her)


    So then two nights ago she came over - because she's in a new aptmnt and doesn't want to sleep alone - we cuddled, she puts my hand on her bare breast and when I say "hey, kiss me" she says "no, I'm not comfortable with that" and I was like "well, I guess I'm in the gay-friend-zone (the worst circle of the he11 that is the FZ)

    Then I read this post by DandyLion and was inspired to go out with a bang!

    I ignored her for yesterday and today until like 2 hours ago, then met her to go get dinner.


    My Merciless Game

    If I wasn't ignoring her, I was negging her - which was easy - this girl is pretty ditzy. It was like Brian (Family Guy) + Archer + Sheldon Cooper Negging Jillian (Family Guy) + Cheryl (from Archer) + Penny (Big Bang). Things like:

    Her: "I heard that people in China eat bird spit..."
    Me: "No, that's... [explain bird-nest soup to her] ...like the Japanese shark fin soup, it's odd but it's a delicacy."
    Her: "So they put the shark fin into the bird spit?"
    Me: "You have someone else do your science hw, dont you?"

    Her: "I'm so mad, and I don't know why"
    Me: "Well, darling perhaps you're just a b1tch "
    Her: "No I just want them to put us at a different table!"
    Me: "Make sure to come off as hostile when you ask"
    Her: "Shut up! lol I just hate people who don't know how to do their job... is that bad?"
    Me: "Yeah... I think you might just be a b1tch..."

    Her: "I've had such a rough day - this is like the highlight of the day for me"
    Me: *ignore* (maybe that's true, maybe it's not... if it's true I'd think she'd be more into me.)

    Her: "I don't really like being single, but I definitely don't want a realtionship."
    Me: "I feel like when I'm single I miss a lot of things about a relationship, but when I'm in a relationship I miss a lot of things about being single."
    Her: "Me too! I just want both! lol"
    Me: "Like a relationship M,W,F and be single T,H, Saturday, then Sunday just nothing."
    Her: "Yeah! lol"

    Her: "Sean (AFC friend) says I'm interesting, not awkward..."
    Me: "I'll bet" *smirk*
    Her: "Do you think I'm awkward?"
    Me: "Yup." *without looking up*
    Her: "WHY???"
    Me: "You often... go off on random tangents. You also trail off what you're saying like 'yeah,... so I guess...' - often in tandem with your random tangents -"
    Her: "Shut up!"
    Me: "- your general hostility to the world around you... uhm, is that enough or should I keep going..."

    Her: "Wait, tell me again how you know which way is east."
    Me: *sigh* "okay, I'll talk slower..."

    Then we go to her house and I try the naked man - swing and a miss!

    Then I start cocky/funny turning everything she says into "hey, take me back to my dorm" - as you see, I don't drive.


    Confrontation

    So the whole night she's been saying how she doesn't like sleeping alone (used to having her dogs) and can she stay at my place? To which I neg her "you're the kid who sat through 10 minutes of Batman and then started asking if he dies in the end, arent you? You gotta wait and see! I'm not telling you how tonight ends!"

    When she drops me off at the door and asks again I say - channeling Vince Vaugh for some reason.

    HB: "Can I spend the night"
    Me: "Well about that, I'm thinking - No."
    HB: *silence*
    Me: "Last time that you spent the night, was wierd."
    HB: "Why was it wierd?"
    Me: "With the cuddling and whatnot"
    HB: "How was that wierd?"
    Me: "When I was like 'you should kiss me'..."
    HB: "I'm just not comfortable yet!"
    Me: "I know, and that's fine, but quite frankly you aren't an easy person to read - you keep your thoguths and feelings to yourself, you arent actively dishonest but you are not very open and honest with people - "
    HB: "Wow" *taken aback*
    Me: " - and I know that there was - at one time - a spark between us, but now I really can't tell if you're no longer attracted to me and just want some comfort, or if you are attracted to me but have issues with affection and intimacy - either way, I'm not interested."
    HB: "I feel like I'm going to cry! I just don't want to sleep alone!"
    Me: "I know," *patronizingly* "And that's the sort of thing that a boyfriend or someone balls-deep in your friendzone - but like I said, I'm not interested in either."
    HB: "Then what do you want?"
    Me: "Well, like I've said before, I'm not looking for a realtionship, but I like you as a friend, we can hang out, have lunch together, etc, but for me, sleeping over has more of a romantic connotation - and I don't mean a relationship, it can be just hanging out, having a good time, but I think you need to decide what you want and be honest with yourself."
    HB: "OKay, Dr. Phil"
    Me: *in Dr. Phil voice, getting out of the car* "Now you go ahead and figure out honestly what you want for yourself. And feel free if you have any revelations you give me a call now."
    HB: "I'll call you"
    Me: "Bye-bye Dr. Phil's patient"
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    Default Re: Autismus College Journal #3 - Gay Friend Zone Escape

    That was Oscar worthy, sadly you weren't acting so how about the Nobel prize? Seriously that was some great witty banter, never lost composure once, something to look up to. There is alot to learn here, thank you for the post.
    Last edited by pua_wannabe; 09-16-2012 at 11:32 PM. Reason: stuf
    Take her off that farking pedestal!

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    Default Re: Autismus College Journal #3 - Gay Friend Zone Escape

    meh. good job but you dont need that stuff for Asian girls. Im an Asian male so I hang around of asian females. I just act normal around them. I whip out that high caliber stuff for hot white girls lol

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    Default Re: Autismus College Journal #3 - Gay Friend Zone Escape

    @Peel, what do you recommend for Asian girls? P.s. I'm white, she's half Asian (Phillipina) and half white (redneck, Tennessee) - in her words.
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    Default Re: Autismus College Journal #3 - Gay Friend Zone Escape

    While i think she had it coming, im thinking you were a tad over emotional. Just a thought. Usually, i would say yes, sleep over and then freeze her out. Sleep in different rooms, listen to music or watch a movie in another room and dont invite her. This behavior shows you non needy.

    USUALLY I would do that but your case is different i guess because you ate her out twice (IIRC) and she didnt do anything for u. That may have changed the dynamics (im no expert btw lol).

    But the one thing im sure of is this cant go on. When a guy gets invested emotionally this much, his game goes down the toilet. Even if you sleep with her, you are so invested that you will always be in a bad or lower position to her. IMHO
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    Default Re: Autismus College Journal #3 - Gay Friend Zone Escape

    Lol yeah I definitely let a bit more emotion/hostility lash out than was absolutely necessary. It kinda felt like I wasn't just gaming her anymore, but was lashing out against every girl that FZ'd when I was AFC and also FOR every AFC in her FZ. Cathardic though it may have been for me I think it was a bit unfair to her and pushed edge of "leave her better..."

    I've notice without condemning or condoning:

    B1thces [turn] nice guys [into] a$$holes [turn] nice girls [into] b1tches [turn] nice guys...
    DTF HB's omw 2 LTR

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    Default Re: Autismus College Journal #3 - Gay Friend Zone Escape

    The only thing about me is, if I have a girl in my bed we are going to do this nasty. I tend to ask them to leave if I don't get mine because I will be laying there super horny, and if they can't take care of that for me than they don't get the cuddling and safety and what not I can make them feel.

    That being said, DUDE that shit was classic I was laughing so hard when I read that.
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