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    Default Time distortion F-Close

    Just last weekend I was able to close with considerably less effort at the end of the night after several let downs. I have a few good wings, who seem to disappear at the very moment I need them the most, but this particular night I was on my own because both was cuffed up prior to my arrival with a few ladies they met the previous weekend.

    Every night I have a particular set of rules and goals I stick to which gives me a feeling of a competitive edge and higher confidence. I arrive at the bar and meet up with my buddies to say hi and get a feel of the vibe. I Have a few drinks and mingle without bouncing around looking like desperate lame. Much to my dismay I open a few and my luck only gets me a few minutes of small talk here and there, but no real connections. I decide to lay low for a little bit and let the smoke clear and a prospect from earlier in the night approaches me for a dance. I reluctantly disagree, why? Because I felt it would only be for validation as she blew me off earlier as if I was just another of the many chasing her, she didn't like it at all and promptly left the bar shortly after, Was this a bad move on my part?

    Not long after one of my buddies pointed me towards an HB8 sitting behind him trying to converse, as his lady was due back soon from the bar getting them drinks, he kinda threw her in my lap. After introducing myself she comes to join me around on the dance floor. We do a little dancing and soon after the lights come on, we make our way to the exit and exchange small and numbers. We go our separate ways.

    Furtherdown the street my buddy finds me and ask if I want to join them at an after hours spot, I tell him I'm calling it a night and headed back home, soon as I say this the HB8 from the bar reappears and ask if I want to join her for a drink at another bar as she's headed there to buy a friend a shot for his birthday. We head in, they take the shot and he leaves immediately as he was obviously wasted. She offers me a beer and we take refuge in a corner near the bar to talk a little. At this point I decide to try a technique I've been thinking about, I call it time distortion, it derived from an NLP embedded command technique that relates a feeling of a time in the past to the familiarity of something your doing in the present, but mine actually attempts to embed commands that triggers a sense of spontaneity suggesting time is a false sense of security and allowing the moment to past without taking advantage of it could cause them to miss out on a lot of fun, it's still under construction and I was just field testing it.

    Well after this she very excited and wants to hear more, at this point my buddy texts me and asks me to come give company to the third party their girls had with them, the HB8 ask is that your friend? Where are they lets go meet with them. We head to the bar where they are and one buddies laid out asleep on the couch with his girl and the others at the bar entertaining. We sit have a beer and I begin the Kino portion of my technique, at this time shes really into it , but now begins to continuously mention how sleepy she is. After about twenty minutes of whining I offer up my bed which is a close cab ride away, she disagrees of course so I continue with the kino and persuasion. A few minutes later I make another offer, but now mention a hotel within walking distance and we can just talk more perhaps sleep. She agrees, and we head out. Soon as we arrive to the telly, we check in and soon as we get to the room she hops in the shower, soon as she's done I hop in and lay out on the bed next to her once I finish as if I only had intentions of sleep.

    Seconds after I lay down she turns and starts to aggressively claw at me and as I turn to her she throws off her clothes and jumps on me, its history from there. This goes on for hours, we nap wake up, go at it again, nap, wake, go at it then eventually shower and leave together.

    Haven t heard from her since, I was suppose to meet her at another bar the next night, neither went or confirmed my cancellation so I assume that's why.

    What do you think of the night? Did my technique seem like I help things to progress? What could I have done differently if anything?
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    Default Re: Time distortion F-Close

    Great field report man. Time distortion isn't discussed as much on this forum. I first came across it when reading Mystery Method. Its a great way to build comfort in a short amount of time. Kudos!

    About the HB who asked you to dance....I think your head was in the right place because she initially rejected you. However if you don't want to lose cool points then the next time that happens tell her that if she gets you a drink you will think about it since she blew you off earlier. Said with a smile of course.
    "All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth."

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    Default Re: Time distortion F-Close

    I was thinking I should have baited her with something to make her feel as if she missed out or to make her do a little chasing, but wasn't on my toes in the moment. Needless to say my boys were clowning me for turning her down because she was an easy HB9, but I feel as if those cards were played right too. Thanks man
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    Default Re: Time distortion F-Close

    Just curious as to what you said to distort time. Thanks if you can post more details.
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    Default Re: Time distortion F-Close

    Well What I did to distort time was began a regular opinion opener about time in general, I then transitioned into the idea of time and how it affects us. I asked her first if she had time to spare or waste on anything not worth her time, she said no, then I graduated into simple things that are adversely affected by time or time sensitive such as milk, car values ect. Then I went into her personal life and ask if she ever felt like she wasted time with/for someone and how that made her feel, she said bad of course, I went on to explain how people use time as a false sense of security and an excuse in order to feel empowered over someone in a relationship, for example how some women have a random number date rule before they decide to kiss or sleep with a guy (did'nt say this to her but it's what im thinking). But I explained to her how the impact of letting the moment expire in order to buy more time could cause us both to miss out on a genuine opportunity to really get to know one another. I then explained how when two strangers meet they allow time to take advantage of their possibilities which in turn expires over time, due to our productive lives, work, school, home ect. And the reason we share a moment at that given time is what is alloted to us outside of our busy lives, therefore we should take advantage. The premise of this is to Take Away her inhibitions and defenses and open her up to you as if your bypassing the whole getting to know each other. I also gave her an example where I explained in an average meet out of a weeks time people think to themselves the've known each other for a week but in actuality they have only texted a few minutes out of a few days, spoken once or twice and met once, but that's enough ground to make them feel comfortable for the next step, thats only a couple days out of a five day period, whats the difference in taking 2 or three hours to really get into each other in one night, you never know if you dont try.

    Hope that gives a little more insight, like I said, I'm still working on it, its a lil rusty.
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    Default Re: Time distortion F-Close

    Thanks for the reply. I think there is alot of good stuff in there and I'm sure you will work the kinks out. It seems a little too metaphysical at times maybe due to the length. But alot of what you say about the length of time people know each other vs actual time is great. Me i'm going to emphasize that part of it.

    Thanks again because now i get the point... i must try to use this technic to get her to act on her feelings right now while they're fresh. No waiting until later when those feelings might change. Props to you for this.
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    Default Re: Time distortion F-Close

    I really like the time distortion. The whole thing does seem metaphysical, but I don't think that this is really a conversation you have at 10am in the morning. I think this is a conversation for when you remove your target from a set for a one-on-one or after there has been rapport and attraction created. This is the kind of conversation that everyone is interested in because nobody can really explain time and this kind of frames the conversation. It definitely isn't 100% clear, but what I'm reading is...
    1. Start by using an opinion opener about time - "Do you think time accelerates as you get older?"
    2. How time affects us - "I think it does because when I was one day old that 1 day represented 100% of our lifetime, now that I'm 24 that one day represents... well hardly anything, so days fly by quickly now"
    3. Banter about time... do you have time to waste, spare. Things like milk are time sensitive, get personal about time spent in relationships.
    4. Getting her to hang out longer by giving her the "impact of letting the moment expire in order to buy more time could cause us both to miss out on a genuine opportunity to really get to know one another" puts a "false time constraint" on the encounter.
    5. The killer line is "the reason we can share a moment is because it is outside of our busy lives, outside of what we perceive as time, such as the time it takes to get the milk delivered, a respond from a work email, ect. This time we are spending together is a moment because it exists outside of the time you spend normally"

    I want to get it down smoothly too because I feel like this sets a good foundation during the comfort building phase and really sets you up nicely for the rest of the seduction.

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    Default Re: Time distortion F-Close

    And you're absolutely correct. I have been thinking about this routine and trying to hone the approach a little more to my liking. I have just recently added the premise of spontaneity to the routine to give it a little more substance, the addition of it negs those who say they are spontaneous yet choose whether or not a specific idea or action depends on whether or not they follow through, I always get that look telling me they want to validate to me that they really are, but don't want to seem too desperate. This routine is solid in my opinion, I like to be unorthodox and over analytical, this is the stuff that works for me in particular.
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