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    Time for another field report! With all the requisite detail you should expect from me by now. (That means its long)

    Saturday night, start at 10:00, popular local bar. Meet up with a few guys in the Minneapolis PUA group, as well as a female PUA who actually knows her stuff well, great asset. Maybe 5 of us all together.

    Begin discussing issues with numbers flaking. Talk with PUA *(I refered to him as smooth in the last FR, I’m changing it to Style2, its really much more suiting and smooth kinda sucks). Talk with Style2 and we will call female PUA Sass. Get some great tips and reminders, imbed dates / events better, as well as waiting longer before texting.

    During the discussion I asked about a 2 set behind Style2, he said he made some eye contact but didn’t open it and probably stalled it out. Been there discussing for 10 minuts or so, Style2 left to go open another set, 3 of us sitting around the table. I mixed eye contact with a girl in the set, 3 second rule, time to move.

    First open
    So, I move around to Style2’s old chair, still with my set but now right next to the girls, turn to my side and say Hey what’s happening girls?
    Exchange a few sentances, ask what they’re celibrating. While the closer one is talking I use a quick excuse, “I’m sorry I really can’t hear you” and move to the next chair over (about a foot away), now at their table right between them. Locked in. Girl to the right comments on my rings, my favorite piece of peacock, literally a peacock ring with feathers that go back about 3 inches along your hand. Gorgeus.

    A note about my outfit – Blue jeans with bleached stripes in them (self made, really cool) and a few holes, studded white belt, silver buckle with the F word (these never get noticed, usually covered up by my shirts). 2 necklaces I always wear, om symbol and a maori symbol. New necklace I found on ebay, girls necklace, hangs down to mid chest with dangling feathers, great piece itself. White long sleeve knit shirt, express scarf just laying flat, my leather jacket (its minneapolis and it was cold), my beret, and of course my rings : 3 simple silver bands, my peacock piece (number 1), and a smaller silver ring I found recently also on ebay, a little minx with some fur on it and a red nose. Been getting a lot of remarks too. Ok to continue -

    Sass goes upstairs and wants me to tell Style2 if he comes back, I talk briefly, then continue the conversation. It moves to volunteer events the ladies came from and some discussion on Buddhism.

    2 girls there, initially I had made eye contact with the darker haired girl to begin with, she’s to my right, and she opened right up. Lighter brunett to my left began relatively closed. Within about 5 minuts tho she began to open up and was giving me some mad lingering eye contact. Interesting change.

    Style2 comes back, I turn to him quick (don’t have to move the tables are next to each other), explain Sass went upstairs, also tell him I’d like to prep to bounce to the next bar in a few minuts, a new one that just opened last week next door. He asks if I want assistance here, I said he’s welcome to join but I was managing the 2 pretty well.

    So we ramble, I’m getting pretty good reception. So I tell them, hey girls my friend’s want to go to the new bar right next door soon, it’s really cool you should come grab a drink with us.
    Idea – you get them to come with you, suddenly 2 separate sets become one, instant rapport.
    Dark haired girl on the right threw that down right away, and used her friend as an excuse. Sorry my driver needs to get home at some point. Her friend, the driver, didn’t like it. “Awwww really?” I pushed slightly, lighter haired girl clearly wanted to go, but dark hair threw it out. Didn’t have a good opportunity to get a number, so I went with a quick – well if you wanna stop out after you drop your friend off we should be there a while. Then ejected. Nothing great.

    Mingled a little, then moved on with Style2, the others were occupied and said they’d catch up.

    Next bar – still early, like 10:30, long line out the door, me and Style2 in line. Opened the 2 set ahead of us, “have you been in here before? Place looks cool is it worth it?” Little banter, died after a minut. Style2 re-openned quickly with one he came up with recently, “Hey have you girls ever heard of a pub tub – it’s a party bus with a hot tub on it”, lol unique opener. He is the master of indirect openers. Soon the rest of their group came behind us, they let us go ahead of them and joined up, arm in arm with their men. No biggie.

    Go around the place, style2 and I opened up a few random sets, some decent banter. Ran in to a few old friends I haven’t seen in years, talk to them. Some of the guys from the last bar caught up with us.

    I go up to get a drink. Nothing too eventful, but a guy is sitting at a bar (hard to get a seat here) and lets me squeeze by, I chat him up a little, pretty nice guy, a little intoxicated.

    I see a 3 set sitting drinking wine, I go open them. Hey girls how we doing? I tease them about drinking wine at a busy bar. Girl shows me the bottle, says they got the wrong one, she’s bitching. Something about the beer, drinks, etc. The girls see some guys behind us and were debating if they were basketball players, I have no clue, but my friends would (we ran in to Adrian Peterson a few weeks back). So I use this to pull them in, hey guys xxx, 2 enter, occupy the other 2, while I’m talking with cute, but difficult asian girl.

    I need to use the restroom, so I use an excuse to lock in, I’m going to leave my coat here, I can trust you, right? So I go, take my time, talk to a few other people, come back, jacket is safe.

    More banter. I find out she lives local too. Time to seed a date. So have you been to this comedy club nearby? They have great improve. She actually says she heard of a different place but hasn’t been there. Ok, we’ll go Thursday, but if it sucks I’m blaming you. I pull out my phone for the number, she takes the phone, then hands it back and tells me no – how about you check it out yourself and let me know if its any good. PUA – By myself? No, I’m kinda scared or new places, I think I need you to hold my hand. She banters a bit, like I said she was difficult, kinda arrogant. PUA – ok shut up and give me your number – she starts, ok fine but I have to let you know I have a BF. PUA – ok fine, so we’ll go to comedy and we won’t sleep together, now that number? She laughs and puts it in. She says – Well I just had to mention it, PUA – “Appropriate disclaimer noted girl”. Talk maybe another 10 minuts, I think my friends had ejected. I tell her I’m going to go grab a drink and find my friends, but she needs to guard my jacket.

    I go outside, find my friends, they point out style2 locked in a 3 set by himself, seated at their table. I go up and chat, introductions. I start talking on the 2 across from Style2. Style2 uses the opportunity for direct engagement with the girl next to him, clearly his target. Getting mad IOIs, the one further is complimenting my flair, telling me how attractive I am, etc. She’s gorgeuous, but I see the ring. She asks my age, I tell her to guess. She asks to see my hair under my beret, I say no, she begs, I give her my hand to kiss first, she complies so I take it off.
    So I ask, they live in the area, I investigate about the husband and confirm. I see Style2 get digits. Then Style2’s friend, I haven’t met him before, shows up and just kinda sits down. A little awkward, not really polished PUA, but theres back up. So I tell the girls it was great to meet them and I’m gonna go find my friends inside, new guy is there to keep the other girls occupied now, more or less.

    I go back inside. Stop by and say hi real quick to the asian, check on my coat. I tell her by the way my real name is Justin, I introduced earlier as J. She’s like, WTF, I joke about it.

    Up to the bar for another drink. Guy sitting at the bar from before is in the same place, I talk with him some more, get a drink, his GF’s friends are 9’s, but they only said hello and left quick. So I’m bantering, random guy next to guy at bar lost his friends and gave us these drinks that just came. Hey, sometimes people are just cool, lol, made a few new guy friends for the evening.

    Gorgeuous 2 set comes up next to me at the bar for drinks. I talk to them, ask them about their scarf, ask them how I’m supposed to wear mine. Girl re-adjusts it for me, some banter, I forget what we talk about, introduced them to my new firends. They leave. I like this spot by the bar, sets come right to you, so I chill here.

    2 set cougers come up soon. Hey what are we celebrating? One of them is a 6, looks dyke, turns out she’s not, glad I didn’t ask. The other one is an 8.5, redhead, I got a thing for redheads. So we are talking, get locked in pretty quick. Girl goes to the bathroom asks me to guard her purse. At some point in here I got my jacket back from asian. Set it on hooks under the bar. Talking with redhead, I go and ask them to watch my coat, they do. I’m back, arm around redhead, lots of IOIs. She’s trying to get a bartenders attention, turns out he’s her boyfriend. It’s legit, it wasn’t a defense, she didn’t stop flirting, but that was kinda a gone opportunity. I ask them if my jacket is secure, I leave it there and go outside. Good excuse to go back in, talk with girls, re-open later, etc.

    I go outside, sit with my friends at the table style2 was gaming earlier, now the girls are gone, just 5 friends. I see a 2 set at a table about 3 feet away. I ask my friends if anyone opened them, nope. Ok, 10 seconds after sitting its game time again. I walk over, first thing that comes to my mind. “Hey girls, my friends started talking politics and it’s way too heavy for a bar conversation, mind if I join you?”, they invite me in. Laugh about politics, I ask what they’re celebrating. I forget what they said.
    Note – first time I’ve used this, but the opener worked great. Social proof acknowledging my friends, great answer to the question “why is he talking to me”, and in generally just shows the PUA is a social person.

    IOI’s from the one closer to me. She wants to try on my ring, I say heck no!. She begs, ok, but I need to take something hostage, so she hands me her purse. She loves it. Kino. A moment later I got my arm around her, escalated pretty quick. A fellow PUA comes up, hadn’t seen him there this night, he’s pretty direct, not my favorite wing, he just jumps in and starts talking, no harm anyway. So we all chat, he’s hitting on the other girl. The girls are cold so I suggest we join my friends, there’s a heater unit on that side. So we move, now our sets merged. Works well. I talk with my 8, time to seed a date, comedy club, she likes it, we set a date for next Saturday. Somehow they even offer me a ride back ( I live like 4 blocks away). I get the ride, step out, I tell my girl to step out of the car quick, quick make out, end of the night.

    A note – I live in the city, 4 blocks from these bars, 2 comedy clubs, movie theater, lots of other stuff. This comedy club is short walk from my apartment, sets up the dates well.

    OK – So 2 more numbers, 2 more dates seeded.

    Later that night I got a text from the second girl, she got a flat tire. It was at 3 am so I was out cold, I sent her something in the AM, like bad news bears, hope you made it back.
    Got a text back from her later, “I did J
    First one – confirmed. Now to maintain radio silence for a few days then follow up on our date.

    Then, first girl (asian, 8 from earlier), messaged me, I actually like this conversation so I’m going to put the transcript
    9:00 AM “Why did you introduce yourself as Jay”
    PUA – 9:14 “I didn’t know you well enough to reveal my secret identity, duh”
    HB8, 9:15 – “I’m so flattered we finally knew each other well enough for u to reveal your identity”
    PUA 9:40 – “You should be. I really thought we connected in those 10 minuts before I left. You’re like my sister now”
    (Note – calling her my sister – turn the tables from me being a pursuer, generally light banter anyway)
    HB, 9:42, “So grateful I’ve found my long lost brother.”

    Second one confirmed.

    Overall – much better with the follow up from my last numbers. Strategizing with my fellow PUAs at the beggining of the night was very helpful. Great night, quite pleased.

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    Default Re: RB Field Report - Long 09232012

    Nice detailed report. Like the step out of the car quick, shows total confidence and just acting on instincts.

    Are you introducing others when they enter the set immediately or they coming over and starting to chatting before you can? I find, if you notice your friends/wings/people you just met who are walking to you, just wave them over joyously then introduce them with good adjectives it builds attraction, women like guys who can introduce them to others. More the better. Then you can tell them your target or set is yours, etc.

    If a girl is being unfriendly or closed, tell her or the group they are the friendliest people you've met that night. The girl will start acting that way you view her, livens her up quickly.

    The BF situation, I found a cool way to touch on it. When they say they have a b/f..." You have a boyfriend ?Aren't you a little too old for one? Who takes who to the moves, your parents or his?" You can go on further about kissing in high school or leave it at the basics. Pretty funny the reactions you get when its a totally different response than the norm.

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    We have a plan when we go approach, who's going to join, when, and how. And the other sets I brought my wings in to I had an opportunity to introduce them and be friends

    The guy who jumped in to the last set just ran in out of no where and sat right down, I didn't even know he was out
    Gonna have a discussion with him next time about being a proper wingman, he shoulda isolated and occupied the other girl for me, instead he was trying to engage both and had way too much energy
    But I didn't show that, woulda lost value for both of us, I introduced him like my best friend as soon as I saw him jump in, have to be cool with everyone
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    Update and advice requested -

    OK, 2 numbers that night

    Later easier number, sent some more banter yesterday, teased, confirmed saturday date. Set

    Earlier asian pain in the butt, well let me give you the transcript, I had some fun with it but not sure how to re-introduce a date idea:

    OK, also, when i called her a pain in the ass, she told me to just say PITA for short (on saturday)

    Tuesday, 1:39 PM:
    PUA "Hey PITA, remind me the name of that comedy club off xxx pls"

    HB 3:40 "www. ******* .com"

    PUA 4:13 "Well it probably sux since it was your idea, but i'll check out new things, when are we going?"

    HB 4:14 "I can't take credit for that since I've never been. But u could check it out then let me know. :-)"

    PUA 4:50 "You know being a pain in the ass was an observation not a challenge"

    HB 5:01 "Funny u feel the need to spell out PITA for me. U do know it takes one to know one?"

    PUA 5:16 "Aww sis that hurts, you're breaking my heart"

    HB 5:18 "If my real bro talks to me that way I would slap him"

    PUA 6:00 "Man don't tell me you're a sadist"
    PUA 6:01 "Theres a 7:00 on Thursday, let's gamble"

    HB 6:40 "Sure let me check with my BF & see if he's interested"
    PUA 7:00 "Ew I don't like so much meat in my 3somes"
    HB 7:01 "Speak for yourself"
    PUA 7:10 "The voice of experience speaks"
    HB 7:11 "Don't judge"
    PUA 7:14 "I'm not babe, they're fun I just do the ratios a bit different"
    Ok the rest isn't important, i teased her some more, then the conversation ended, but ended well.

    So boyfriend hurdle came back up. Can't tell, she's responding pretty quick, I have no idea if it's still a shit test or not. They usually don't bring up a BF twice.

    So, thoughts? And next move? How do I get this chick out on a date?

    My only thought:

    "So I talked with your imaginary boyfriend he's totally cool with us going to the show later"

    But: I want to generally avoid the boyfriend topic, just incase he's real. Although I guess if he was real that would maybe confirm it and settle it. Input?
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    Default Re: RB Field Report - Long 09232012

    Man, Justin, the way you run night game blows my mind. Hopefully I can make it up there and you can teach me sometime.

    "So I talked with your imaginary boyfriend he's totally cool with us going to the show later"

    I think this is pretty solid. My favorite has always been to proceed as if she didn't have a boyfriend. Things like,

    "Why do you keep telling me these things that don't matter?"

    "Why do you keep telling me these things that I don't care about?" (C/F)

    "Who is this guy? You keep bringing him up." My Boyfriend "Right..."

    You're right though. Unless she's top sh*t, they really don't bring them up twice. If you get a third time the dude's probably real and I'd eject...or talk to Xavier lol.
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    Default Re: RB Field Report - Long 09232012

    Normally, you want her to feel positive things in areas the b/f lacks.

    If she mentions it again..."Hey, I just met you and your are already telling me about your problems."

    I'd probably continue with the sister routine, and change imaginary b/f to dad said its fine if we go out, but have to be home by 9pm.

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    That's some high praise coming from you Cody. In truth I'm a simple guy who loves to talk, biggest stuff I got out of game was removing my fear of saying hi and teasing

    I'll go with that opener mid day today. If it doesn't work I'll leave it. Well or change the tone, I'm always cool with friends to hang out with, getting rid of boyfriends isn't usually my style unless she's my dream girl, which I've never found. Will keep ya posted
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    Musta posted while I was typing Chet - I like the dad idea, and the boyfriend line is great if I want to power through. But if I see it a third time I'll probably drop it, like "he's real??" and tease her somehow, then invite her and her friends out to join us

    Got a group headin out Friday, 7-8 of us, casual game I told people they're welcome to invite friends, they could always come there, social proof from girls and all
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    Pua 11:02 "hey I talked to your imaginary boyfriend he's cool with you going out to the show tonight"

    HB 12:15 "funny I talked to your mom and she's not cool with you lying"

    That one actually maked me laugh. Even if this goes no where I'm enjoying it. Now to think.... Next response
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Red Baron View Post
    Pua 11:02 "hey I talked to your imaginary boyfriend he's cool with you going out to the show tonight"

    HB 12:15 "funny I talked to your mom and she's not cool with you lying"

    That one actually maked me laugh. Even if this goes no where I'm enjoying it. Now to think.... Next response
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