Another field report, longer than ever!
This was a big weekend, so this will be a huge detailed report. I’ll try to summarize as much as possible, but if you omit the detail, you lose the keys.
Lets start with a recap of last week, Date Tuesday night, ended in a little making out. Date Wednesday Girl 1 (K close last weekend), makeout, date Thursday girl 2, more makeout. Date Friday afternoon with Girl 1, hit some strong LMR but blew past it, ended up having a ton of fun. Sunday date as well, more LMR, blew past it again.
Friday evening had a game night with the Minneapolis PUA lair. Had a friend conduct a training session of sorts for everyone with his expertise on Direct Game. Included a little practicing, then went out in to the field, roughly 10 PUAs. Opened a few sets and helped Style2 wing, but I was really getting no reception. Left to another area with another wing later in the evening to meet Girl 2 who was supposed to buy me some drinks, but didn’t end up finding her. Several random approaches, but was not working very well at all. Flirted with one hired gun HB 8.5 selling shots, I accused her of selling Kool Aid shots (they were colored girly drinks). Found out she was 19, I got a strong 21 plus policy, BUT my hired gun game is horrible so I decided to go for it. Got a N close, she said “you’re gonna ask for my number and not even buy a shot?” And I responded like – well I’m not going to PAY for it! Lol. That was the only success of the night, but I really don’t plan to call this one.
Saturday had a huge day planned with the PUA group
Started in the afternoon with a trip to the Mall of America to help the guys work on peacock, about 9 of us came. Was actually a very vibrant shopping session, with 9 of us flooding in to girly accessory stores and teasing the hell out of the workers. It was a ton of fun and everyone in the group really was willing to break out of their comfort zone a little, got some good rings and necklaces to help stand out. Also some new shirts for guys who needed to improve. Everyone was so excited we went an hour after our 3 hour planned trip.
Saturday night continued shortly after with a training session from 8-10. Had an area reserved for us, I had previously met the manager of the bar so I talked to him a little, worked on befriending him, friendly kino on his shoulder, etc.
10 of us there. This was fantastic. I highlighted the differences between direct and indirect game, the theories on approach and the objectives. Discussed Body language keys, warm approaches, understanding IOIs, the basics of incorporating Kino, a lot about how to properly interact with your wings, the importance of just being social, and a few other topics. Helped the other members work on their posture, body language, approach, etc.
Style 2 took over with a good discussion on indirect game. Included some recorded examples he had on approaches he was able to talk everyone through, show the transition, etc. Then he had a wing girl in the group sit downstairs with another guy and had everyone run a practice approach. This was awesome. The guys came from upstairs so they would individually approach as though she was a random set. I sat down on the side to help review, then we would evaluate everyone. Worked amazing, helping people engage the guy in the group, talking about their body language, confidence, how they spoke, etc. Then Style2 was pretty instrumental in reviewing people, then going directly to – OK now lets go approach another set.
Again everyone had so many questions and we had such a vibrant discussion this went longer than planned again until we had to leave our reserved area for another group (10:30). Still worked well, talked up the manager again and thanked him for all his help, trying to build a bit of a relationship with him.
Ok 10:30, a few guys had to leave, 9 of us left. Had Style2 take 4 guys to another bar, 5 of us stayed to continue working this bar. Now for the remaining game.
So throughout the night we had a server, curly dark hair, about a HB9. Got her name and kino’d and flirted with her back and forth. Occasionally I’d be in a set and get approached by another server, told them who had my card and she’d come back in a bit, I would tease her about disappearing or hiding, etc. Was a lot of fun. I will say every time she came back to find me I was talking in another set, built a TON of social proof.
OK, so first I saw a cute 2 set at the back seated, I went up for an approach and told the other veteran to send up a wing man in a little bit.
Went up to the 2 set, used the Makeup opener *** NOTE – this opener rocks, I got the idea from the makeup discussion and have been using it – “Hey we need an opinion, is it ok for a guy to wear makeup?” Girls love it, lots of opinions.
Ok, so I’m talking with them, about a minut later another guy enters. His join to the set was good, hand on my shoulder, hey how’s it going everyone? OK, I introduced him, explained the discussion. Girls gave some opinions, then he was like no I don’t think its ok, the problem is his opinion response was very abrasive. I could see the girl’s faces turn, ok problem we might lose this. I flirted a little more, we talked for 2-3 minuts, then I suggested we get back to our friends. Told the girls it was nice, we gotta get back but I’ll come chat with them a little more later in the evening.
Note – I’ve been doing this a lot, and I did it quite a bit that night, instead of instantly closing, I’ll tell them I’ll be back later. Go do my thing, approach more sets, and come talk to them later. This works great for a few reasons – first, you’re in other sets meanwhile and they can see, this builds social proof and acceptance, shows you are MR social. Second, when you come back to talk to them again, you’re already friends. This basically mimics the idea of bringing the set to another bar to merge sets. You know them when you come back, its great.
So we left, went back to our guys. Talked about how everything went and how we can improve for our friend. This was literally his first night out gaming, so it was ok, a lot of constructive advice.
OK, I saw another cute set to the left, 2 HB 7-7.5, in the same room, I suggested another guy come with me and we approach together. This is not the traditional style but I actually like it, and it gives him a chance to see the opener from the beginning.
So we walk over, makeup opener. Back up – ok we walked up “Hey girls we were having a debate and we need a quick opinion”, The girls rolled their eyes “Oh god….”, I laughed, what? They said “nothing, just, go on”, ok so I continued the opener, they played along, a lot of opinions on it. Lots of kino going on with both of them. My other wing was doing well, somewhat quiet, one of the things we’re working on with him, but he was friendly and attempted to kino the girls just a little. Got their names, and at some point they were like “So… is this just what you do? Go around and ask girls their opinions…” (Although they didn’t say it, I’m pretty sure Style2 opened them upstairs earlier with another PUA using a different opinion opener) So I decided let’s own it and use this constructively. Well – to be honest we just wanted to come say hi, and I wasn’t quite sure how to go about this. This worked phenomenally – the one girl was like, well just come say hi! – so I said ok, but you’re girls and you get approached all the time, if we simply say hi you’re gonna think we are just like all the other guys, so we ask a question instead. The other girl was 100% on our side, she’s like he’s absolutely right, and agreed with the whole concept. This evolved into a whole discussion about how we are supposed to do it. I asked them how we did, they gave some really positive feedback. We got names, my wing wasn’t talking a lot so he ejected himself. I talked for another minut then left with him telling them I gotta get back but I’ll come find them later and continue our discussion.
Went back to our group, discussed some more. OK, 10 seconds later I already forgot their names, I’m really really bad about this. So I approached the set again, ok seriously I forgot your names. The one girl was like “OK is this part of your whole thing too?” (LOL). I said no, I am actually this bad with names and if I ask now I’m just bad at names, but if I ask in a few hours they’ll think I’m an A hole. They agreed, laughed, we talked for a minut, then back to the group.
So I recapped with the guys, my last wing (quieter one) went to join a mixed 3 set, I told him I’d join in a bit but had to coordinate a few things with the other guys about who was going where. Saw him in the set for 2 minuts then he moved to another next to them. This guy’s willingness to approach is fantastic, I have no doubt he’ll go far. OK, so my discussion took a few minuts, I looked over and saw him talking to the first 2 set I spoke to above, decided to go join him. I talked to him, said oh hey I already spoke with them, so I introduced him, I said we’ve been running around for a few hours and asked if we could sit down (they were in a booth so hard to join without asking), they said sure. So we talked some more. Wing tried to run the best friend test but I don’t think they heard him well. 5 minut banter but it really was kinda failing so I was like alright well we should get back and we stood up, the girls gave me a weird look and I was like what was that? They said that it was just really random and they thought we were having a friendly discussion – I told them I was getting mixed signals and thought they were bored, they said I was wrong and they were enjoying it (well hooked). My wing already left, and I had said we had to go, so I wanted to wrap up soon anyway. So I talked for another minut, then I went for a really direct close (I was owning this night with my energy so I was going pretty direct), - “OK so I’m going to be pretty direct here, XX – I would love to call you sometime” (HB 8.5). She said I’m welcome to if I want her BF yelling at me, I laughed and said it sounds like fun. She said no, but she said she loves the area and her friend lives there, but would like to call me to hang out as friends socially. I told her I really wasn’t offended and she didn’t need to (It didn’t bother me). But she insisted, she said we were a lot of fun and she’d love to join our group sometime if that’s cool. We talked about that, which is totally cool to me, bring more girls into our group, build social proof, etc. She took my number, said some goodbyes and left.
OK back with the wings. First wing leaves to go home. Me and second wing go upstairs to the rooftop bar area. Mixed 3 set to the immediate right, nothing special, 5 seconds of words with my wing he decides to approach a big mixed set to the left. Ok, I talk to the guys on the right a little, just friendly conversation. Theres an open chair so I ask if I can borrow it for my coat. I leave it there, then go join my wing. He’s friendly, he’s engaging the guys, he introduces me. He goes around to the other side closer to his target. Maintains the set maybe 5 minuts then we eject. OK, we go off to the side and recap.
Another third wing joins us upstairs (also novice to PU), second wing has to leave too. OK, so its me and third wing. He’s a little older, goes out in a brown suit, looks like a college professor. Pretty mild mannered but he’s got a good starting point. I talk to him a little more about the basics, then I bring him in directly with another 2 set to show him the approach. Makeup opener, kino, lots of fun. He needs to be slightly more engaged, but the set goes well, he’s calm and worked in a little kino.
We go back downstairs and are recapping, the last set walks by us in the stairwell, I tease them about stalking us, they leave.
OK, so we decide to check another bar (at this point it’s almost 1 and we’ve been there since 8 PM). I gotta close my tab and I really want the waitresses number.
Again, my aura tonight was OWNING and I was in different sets all night. OK, I talk to the manager a little again, thank him. Look for the waitress. I find her, tease her more about hiding from me, she said she was trying to find me, Kino, etc. Pretty fun. She asks if I need another drink, I said no we’re gonna leave but I need 2 things, very direct close again – I say I need my tab, and I really want to talk to you again. A little discussion and teasing, she enters her number in to my phone. HB9, super super cute, really cool. She was my main goal all night. Previously my hired gun game SUCKED, I think this weekend was my first 2 hired gun N closes ever.
We go to a new bar, now just me and wing 3, professor. New bar, we go downstairs, I want a drink (I do like to party, I know its not good for game, but hey I’m out to enjoy myself), this place is packed, impossible to get up to the bar. OK, so I go through, lots of guys, I’m engaging every one of them. Talking to them all, hand on the shoulder, sliding past, joking about how I don’t have a drink and how horrible that is. Had a lot of fun all around through this. Finally get up and get a drink, talking to more guys, one or two girls, but this ratio was pretty bad here. Prof makes his way up, I try to get him a water, I ask 2 servers who both say yes, then disappear. OK we gave up on water.
We back out from the bar, chit chat a little, Prof said he was amazed in my ability to socialize with the guys, built mad social proof. As we are talking one of the guys from the bar comes up and cheers me, talks like we are old friends, then reminded me we just met at the bar. Fun guy anyway, we chit chat, I complain about the water, he said he’ll take care of it. He goes up to the bar, returns a moment later with the water for Prof. I’ve said it before – I go out to be a social guy, and I have met so many cool people. Talked to the guy for 30 seconds and he helped us out, nice guy.
So, we are chilling, set 2 from the first bar (Girls who’s names I forgot) comes and opens me. $20 if you can remember my name, I couldn’t lol. Ok we talk, I introduce Prof, really just having fun. The main girl was married, and the other one was over talking to some guys. They’re both 7s, and I’ve had dates with 8s-8.5s all week, so I wasn’t really interested in closing 7s, plus I got the 9 bartender I’m stoked about. I go up and talk to the other one briefly, basically the one girl from earlier and 4 guys, on the plus side I talked to all the guys earlier. So a little more kino, I pat her on the head and say I was offended she didn’t say hi (just the married one opened me), talk to the guys a bit then decide to get out of the crowd.
OK, so we finally get off to the side, emerging from a sea of shoulder to shoulder people. Mixed 3 set to the side, I look at them like I’m catching my breath, walk up and ask if they mind if I borrow part of their table for my drink, discuss about the crowd issues. Joke with the guy, they all invite us to join them. I ask how they know each other – One girl is the guys sister, he says the other is his…. “Friend”. They give each other a quick look and laugh. I call em “OK, let me guess, you guys used to date a little, didn’t really work, and here you are”. They laugh some more, tell me I nailed it. We talked, kino, they were 7s anyway, just fun people to talk to. We talk, a lot of friendly banter. This is a peanut bar too, the one girl throws some peanuts at another group behind me.
I turn around, this one girl, HB 8 is giving me this funny / fake evil look, not me!. I go up and talk to the group, 2 girls, 6 guys. The girl is leaning way in to me, flirting. I try to engage the guys but fail horribly, they’re clearly annoyed with her interest. I chat a little, then go back to the table I was at with Prof and the other 3, 2 of which are now playing foosball behind the table, the third one (sister) has a guy talking to her. Not cute enough to interfere, I say hi to the guy, chat him up a little, pretty nice guy, reminded me of an old college roommate, we joke around.
I talk with Prof about some of my own strengths and weaknesses. First – the guys at the back table that I didn’t really engage properly, I want to go back and get her number and have no idea how. Second, theres one or two other sets and I wasn’t sure how to approach, there was a lot going on. It’s close to bar close anyway, and I don’t like the last 5 minut pickups, reeks of desperation.
A few minuts later, lights come on for close. I see one of the guys from the mixed 8 set put his hand on the last targets back and making out with her. Clearly dating, explains the hesitation I was getting. I go talk to everyone in our set, the 3 and the new guy, shake hands, hand on the shoulder, nice to meet you all, will see ya around. Prof says his goodbyes, puts his hand on their shoulders somewhat too, working some better friendly Kino in.
I owned this night. I was on A game all night. I was really pleased with how well I engaged everyone, my friendly kino was on top. I go out to be Mr. Social, and I nailed it. Prof gave me some mad respect too.
So, Prof and I walk back towards his car, I live just a few blocks away. We recap, he likes my game a lot and wants to be more social. His look works great for him, nothing to change there. I suggest he starts with a few simple excercises I used to do – first and foremost as he goes through his day, say hi to at least 3 people every day. It’s not hard, saying Hi, goodmorning, no ones going to reject you and it makes it much easier to start talking to everyone. Second to try to work in more friendly kino, arm touch, etc. Helps build better connections.
Sunday we have a follow up lunch, 5 of us come to talk about the weekend and what to do next time, me, Style2, and 3 other newbies who were out. Overall it went great. I think the plan is to try a big group event like this once a month, less discussion, just half an hour review of the keys for the night, then half an hour of practice approaching, because that was clutch.
First more abrasive guy has a lot of questions – He says he has no idea how style2’s dynamic works, but it does. He wants more info. He says he understands how my style works – he says I have an aura that I don’t give a shit until someone gives me a reason to. Huge compliment. We talk to all of them, try to get one guys to speak up, give the other guy some style tips, shave, different coat, etc. I stay for an hour but have to leave for a date, I leave it with Style2.
Have a Sunday afternoon date, go for a walk, grab a beer, and play some video games we have a common interest in. Wont cover the specifics, but goes great, a lot of fun.
This weekend was a gaming powerhouse. This PUA group is growing into a solid PUA lair. We have some very knowledgeable veterans to help and a lot of other newer PUAs who were very willing to hear their weaknesses and work on them. Everyone this weekend made several approaches and took their criticism constructively. The guys incorporated simple peacock and by the end of the night commented on how much it helped, how girls were commenting on it and giving them attention. I can’t wait to see where they go and where this lair is at in 6 months, because I know some of these guys will own once they get over their initial fears and get a little more confidence. Stay tuned for the status of the lair over the next year.