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    Default HB8 # close & free drink!

    Howdy,


    After reading some David X quotes that I believe Virgil posted, I felt inspired to go out with a slightly refined approach.


    First bar of the night, I chatted up a group & immediately put my arms around two HBs, positive responses, lots of laughs, etc. I turn behind & see HB8 from class, (I was kicking my arse all week for not going for her number).

    I do an over the shoulder, "Oh my God, what the he11 are you doing here?" She giggles with a "hi," and I say, "I thought you only hung out in libraries in your free time!" She then gets sassy & tells me how crazy she it, etc, fitting the frame I set for liking "party girls." I do a shoulder touch & gentle push, as I say, "You know what, nickname? You're kinda cute, I'll let you buy me a beer." She agrees & asks what I want, I neg her a bit on not knowing that beerx is the best. She giggles & hands it to me.



    I have my phone out for Kino's Number Close & say I gotta catch up to my friends (ftc) but we should continue this convo & hang sometime, (as I type the number in) 555-...



    She fills in the rest & says with a giggle, "By the way, my real name is insertnamehere, just so you know."



    She leaves & at this point, I'm sober enough for conversation, but am having a hard time texting coherently, so I opened another group & told them my story, because I wanted to text "Hey, it's PUA, who is that hot guy you were just talking to?" The girls in this group thought it was cute, and one typed it for me, & I looked it over before hitting send.



    That was Saturday (& my friend from 3 hrs away was coming down to visit, so I thought a number close was fine) I texted her today, she is busy with homework, but I'll see her in class Wednesday, so if I can't push for coffee today, I'll bring it up through light teasting in class.

    I'm getting really good at opening groups, building attraction, creating comfort, & number closing. I've also learned that whenever I get a D2, if I don't at least go for escalation, then it's over, lol. I think my biggest sticking point now is consistently turning # closes into D2s.



    The David X stuff really struck a chord. Who cares what she thinks? I can't think for her. I've noticed that whenever I go ballsy & use my drive, as long as I'm congruent, I've had good results. It's when my congruency with my rockstar attitude waivers that I get in trouble.
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    Default Re: HB8 # close & free drink!

    Part Deux---Ooops!


    After texting HB8 Monday, mild bantering, getting a few "haha what are you up to"s & the like, I walked into class today (late) afterwards, my buddy caught me up on what she said about me, to him & her chunky friend.


    Apparently, she went on the warpath before class about how big of a jerk I was, & how lame the line I used was. (I said something to the effect of, "I don't usually let cute girls buy me drinks, but I'll make an exception.") All was good until she bought me a beer, went to give a cheers, & I did a takeaway, by turning away from her, then I said, "oh, okay!" and went for the cheers, but accidentally spilled beer all over her right side. People around laughed & she was p!ssed.

    This was after I got her number. She told my friend, "I don't know why I gave him my number, I just can't say no!" (She gave me her number because I used Kino's # close) & went on to say that if I ever called her, she would say "You're a d0uchebag!" & then hang up.


    Maybe I was a little more drunk than I thought, but I find this very amusing that she goes on a tirade to classmates, four days after the incident, & three days after texting me. My instinct tells me that the big error I made (in general) was focusing too much on attraction, & not enough on comfort. Also, we usually end up sitting next to each other (she sits near my friend), & we usually end up bantering back & forth (sometimes a little edgy), so I think a Freeze Out would be the next best move. Continuing to engage everyone else in class as I have been, but politely dismissing her of any attention. Then I think, "Do I really want to try with a girl who holds on to such anger?)



    I'm not attached to this outcome by any means, as I've already received a free drink, mild amusement, and IOIs from new material I've used during our initial banter.



    Thoughts?
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    Default Re: HB8 # close & free drink!

    Now that I think about it, this is just a result of overgaming & punishing good behavior.

    1. I've been focusing too much on bantering & attraction.

    2. When she bought me a beer, I punished her by ignoring her cheers & then humiliated her by spilling it on her. Punishing the good behavior made her feel exploited, which makes me a jerk. That makes sense now.


    The answer, then, is not a Freeze Out, but rather, since we sit so close together, focusing more on the rapport, & a helluva lot less bantering, because this will (possibly) make her see me as more than the immature jerk with a tongue like a razor.


    I've realized I just answered my own questions, but, ya know. . .
    "It's so easy, when everybody's tryin' to please me, baby!"


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