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    Default What's up with this girl

    Hi there,

    I'm sorry if the text is too long, but I have to detail everything so things would be understandable. I'm pretty much new to PUA world so pls bear my stupid mistakes. Oh and sorry for my terrible english.

    I met this german girl which came with friend of mine to this pub. She is her flatmate. I must say that she is completely my type of girl and after being in London for 2 months and didn't find anyone interesting, this one really picked my attention. We're in this kind of heavy metal pub and I was actually with 7 other girls on the table. It was just me and another male friend which was actually married and with her wife with him there. Anyway, I talked to everybody on the table and sometimes with her. Slowly one by one start saying good bye and going home.

    It was then just me, her and 2 other girls left. The german girl was really keen to go to another place and asked me to go as well. So this night we talked more, but nothing happened.

    I picked her facebook and started contacting her. At the beginning was a small talk but later we schedule to go out she and her friends that I met the other day, to go to another bar. Few days later on she even asked me if I would like to go to a prodigy concert that tickets might still be available.

    On the day that we would go to the bar, she writes me that her friends don't want to go out but that she still wants, if I still want to go out. I said yeah, sure. So instead of going out a group of people, she just came alone. Second time I ever see this girl and it is just me and her. I planned to bring her first to a bar where you can do some funny things, to kinda break the ice, play table football and some shit. Talking with her at this first bar, I asked what she would do for New Years Eve and she tells me that she will spend with her boyfriend. I was like FUUUUUUCK! But then she tells me, yeah I just see him every 2 months, and he is living in germany and don't want to come to live here and I'm in London and I don't want to go back there, so if no one will do something about it, I don't know how we will keep together. It was bit too much of information for the second time we are going out, but whatever.

    From there we went to another place and then another place that she wanted to go. It was a gothic industrial party, so quite crazy people. Just we looked normal. Everybody else were looking like they were relatives of Marilyn Mason.

    Anyway we drunk for awhile talked and hung up in the club. At some point it was getting really late like 3am and I was just thinking why is she still hanging around. I mean we going out was not suppose to be a date, but at this point it was looking like one and at 3am it seems that I was not that boring after all. So my head started spinning because I thought ok, she might want something more than just hang around. So I started Kino her and started to get closer to her to some extend let her know that maybe I might be interesting in something more. She didn't seem to bother at all. But at the same time I just didn't find any space to give her a kiss. So when I realized ok, maybe she doesn't want to get closer, I asked her, should we go, and she was like, no, not yet. Lets dance. So then I went to dance with her. for at least 40 min more. At some point I couldn't hold myself anymore seeing this really hot girl dancing in front of me, so I got closer to her and kissed her neck. She kind of didn't expect it and backed off and then kept dancing like nothing has happened and I did the same. So I just turned to her and asked again if she wanted to leave. And she was unsure if she wanted so, we spent at least 1 hour more at the place.

    So we left the place, I brought her to her busstop and when the bus came she gave me a tight hug and left. I was like WTF was that?! I wrote her a sms to write me if she got well home. At 6am she writes me on facebook this:

    "Hi ****, thank you for the nice evening. I wanted to text you but it wasn't possible anymore because i run out of credit. So i have to top up my mobil phone. Anyway i arrived well. the way home wasn't so bad and i hadn't to wate too long. Hope you had a good walk home.
    I had fun, thanks for that. Next time it will be Metal music!
    See you soon."

    I invited her then a few days later to join me on a hiking trip on the weekend and asked her if she would like to join me on a figure drawing class (we both like drawing). She said she would be too busy these days and that the weekend she would spent with some friends which came from germany. I just thought, ok, it's over, I farked it up so I just wrote her back: Ok, enjoy your week and have fun with your friends.

    Two days later for my surprise she writes me back: hey when is going to be next drawing class. Maybe I'll be able to join to the hiking. But ended up that later she called off again and said she was busy. Two weeks has passed and I didn't manage to go out with her again. We just kept some small talk on Facebook.

    On this Wednesday I will probably meet her again because her flatmate invited me for a xmas party at her flat and to be completely honest I don't have a clue what to expect from this girl. I don't know how I should handle her from now on. I was thinking about bringing some small presents for my friend and her as a xmas present but I don't know if I should. And I don't know if I should keep asking her out or just forget about it.

    Can you guys give me some light here?

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    Default Re: What's up with this girl

    ok... that IS a lot of writing.! next time jump to what u do together n not all that jazz abt how u met.

    1) never get drunk - try not to drink
    2) never try to talk too much at a club - too loud - just dance
    3) u Kino'ed her, but did u watch her reaction.?
    --// she was indifferent -- so she didn't like it
    4) the hug was sure sign she wasn't all happy w/ u
    5) she is still interested - she let u kno she got home
    6) u came off needy to her - don't u think.?

    what u need
    1) search forums for some daygame advice/routine
    2) be chill with her... show her ur fun and cool side
    3) u wanna KINO her - do it naturally.
    --// bump elbow - brush hands
    --// look up palm reading
    4) i like to be the center of attention so do group routines
    --// funny story
    --// learn "psychopath routine"
    5) then do personality test on her
    --// first "rollercoaster" then do a real one "cube"
    6) start asking abt her
    --// do Style's "EV routine"
    7) start finding commonalities
    --// say u like to do X - cause it's exciting, how abt u.?

    OK - there's more..... but i'm doin ur leg work now. lol

    8) start agreeing with her responses

    9) last tip -- what i LOVE to do. i always tell the girl i thought she was a bitch because of X... but then now that we had this great convo, i feel closer. i hope we can keep doing this.

    ok... i hope this stuff helps..... f*ck, i pretty much handed u the routine. LOLz

    lemmie know how things go.^^

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    Default Re: What's up with this girl

    you honestly didn't do that bad. Keep in mind that she has a boyfriend nagging at the back of her mind... But Bump the brake and be chill

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    Default Re: What's up with this girl

    she has a BF.? i didn't read where.???

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    Default Re: What's up with this girl

    Hey, guys. Many thanks for the inputs. Special thanks to you Yoki!

    Yeah, she has a boyfriend. So that's why I was so unsure about everything. The whole thing was just awkward because this time we went out it didn't even suppose to be some kind of date. It just happened that it was just me and her. And then she spends the whole night with me in these pubs and club. I'm a brazilian guy and back home these things are a clear sign. A girl would not go out with a guy until that time unless she would know him for a decade or she wants something more.

    Anyway, I will probably meet her this Wednesday. I was thinking about bringing some small present as xmas present for both of the girls (I would bring for the flatmate as well so it would not look I just brought it for her) but I'm not sure if it's appropriate. It would be something simple, a sketchbook since she likes to draw and I was inviting her for these drawing classes. What do you guys think?

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    Default Re: What's up with this girl

    ah... i c.

    search "PUA BF destroyer"
    if u wanna F her, skip this part
    ... IMO, i wouldn't mess with a girl with a BF seriously.
    --// 1. she isn't being responsible and is straying with u
    --// u invest in her, but can u trust her with ur heart.?
    --// 2. she tells u she has a bf, but u still court her...
    /..../ u r telling her/her behavior is ok.
    /..../ maybe ur also saying - give me any bit of ur time, pls
    --// 3. u don't want to be her safety net/white knight
    /..../ now she has someone to rely on - she can take her
    /..../ time deciding what to do with the BF

    if u wanna F her, skip this part too
    --// 1. ask urself what u want from her
    --// 2. ask urself if u can handle if she does it to u
    --// 3. now let her know how u answered 1 & 2
    /../ just deliver it politly and with good energy.

    so u wanna F her
    ---- u don't care abt the details of her life, just wanna F
    --// 1. don't buy her anything, it won't help.
    /../ u can do just as much w/ showing her a good time
    --// 2. seduce her -- search forums for this step
    /../ find a routine that is congruent with ur personality
    --// 3. always watch for her signals to stop
    /../ otherwise, be bold and press as much as u can

    lastly...
    1. don't take what she does personally
    2. don't try to get into her head

    let me know how things work out.! ^^

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    Default Re: What's up with this girl

    To be honest, it's not exactly my intention to ruin anyones relationship. But on the other hand it doesn't seem that things are quite right with her relationship either. I'm already regretting that I tried to kiss her. I don't think this is the type of girl just to have sex with and second I just left a relationship which I realised now it was just about sex, so maybe I would prefer something deeper.

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    Default Re: What's up with this girl

    if u want a REAL relationship, the feelings u r getting is - wrong - to act on

    bottom line - she has a BF. she needs to deal with it to proceed with u.

    i am dead serious abt doing the right things if u want to create a good relationship... and it starts with her giving u the same committment (breakup) that u r giving her (writing to this forum for advice - taking her out - courting her).

    ... at this point, she doesn't really owe u anything to make u happy. but it's in ur own best interest to look for a girl who can do the right thing with another person's heart.

    it will not hurt ur chances with her if u:
    "let her know how u answered 1 & 2"

    don't make it awkward by being in that mode... let her know and then carry on - have a good time. but u should let her know where she stands with u.

    DO NOT sell urself short finding the one.

    really read my last post.

    either way, do what u do when u c her again - and post ur result. people r here to help.^^

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    Default Re: What's up with this girl

    Oh well,

    I saw her at this xmas party the flatmates did on her place and I was invited. I brought to her friend and her something each. Her present I packed on a gift paper. It was a moleskine sketchbook. She didn't open and said that she will only open on Xmas. The whole evening was ok, both of us behaving like nothing happened. I barely gave her attention. I was mostly speaking to her friends.

    The next day she sent me a message saying that she couldn't wait for seeing the present. She said it was fantastic the present and that she was very pleased. She thanked me, wished merry xmas and so.

    So that's it. Not sure if I should keep insisting here. I might be around as a friend but definitely not gonna put any pressure.

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    Default Re: What's up with this girl

    Update:

    Yesterday I was walking with a friend in art gallery and coincedently I met her with her BF there. We spoke for awhile and she said she is interested in going to that drawing classes I offered her. I thought it was just chit chat but today, she sent me a message on fb asking if I'm going there and if she may come with me. She told me that she would grab something to eat on the way to the school, so I definetely can't ask her to eat something afterwards. I really don't know how I should handle her now.

    Any sugestions?


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