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    Default Went To Lunch With Two Old Friends, HB7 and Obstacle

    This is gonna be a long post so I'll bold the IOIs and important parts. Please read the context in full though.

    Context: HB7 (has a boyfriend of like 6 months) and my friend we'll call Andrew who's an AFC and an obstacle since we all think he's secretly in love with the HB7 since he's been hanging around her for years. HB7 and I have never had a real "thing" or hooked up bcuz she dated my best friend in high school but in the last 12 months or so, we started getting closer and she started hanging out with me outside of our friend group. I was supposed to go out with the HB7 just the two of us but then Andrew was getting into town around the time we were gonna hang out anyway and I think she felt bad for him so she asked if he could come and I said sure to not seem like my original intentions were for it to be a "date".

    Onto the date: So in classic HB fashion, I get a text half an hour after I was supposed to pick her up saying she'll be ready in half an hour. OK, whatever. I pick up Andrew and before we get to her house, I get Andrew to agree on a restaurant so I can be decisive and alpha when we see her. She called when I was on the way over there to see if I had read some text she had sent me in the meanwhile...IOI #1(, I think). We get there and I knock on her door instead of texting "We're here" like an AFC. I hug her Mom and stroll right in. She's just putting on her shoes and I give her a hug as soon as she gets them on. It felt like she put a little boob into that hug so IOI #2. Anyway, she sits in the front seat with when we get in my car so IOI #3. We (Andrew, Jackie and I) get to the restaurant and I know you guys don't wanna read about all our conversation so I'll just list what I thought the IOIs were...she called me a guido, which I took to mean she thought I was good with girls IOI #4, she started to crack her knuckles and I stared at her bcuz I was gonna neg (I was negging every so often) and she just seemed to let her guard down for a second, then she looked me right in the eyes to say "I've been a mess lately" and bitched about all her problems lately for a minute IOI #5. Last but not least, I dropped her off first and when I did, I said goodbye to her in the car and she seemed like she heard me, then she got out of the car, then turned around and said goodbye again, to me specifically this time IOI #6.. Then I dropped Andrew off and went home.

    Post script: I texted her the next day and said "Hey, it was good to see you again yesterday. I'd like to hang out again before I leave" to make my intentions clear and let her know I had a good time. She replied "Yeah definitely just call anytime". Then I texted her a funny picture of me the next day and we bantered a little.


    So, any feedback from you all is appreciated. How did I do, what could I have done better and where do I go from here? A 3-person lunch with an annoying cockblock isn't really what I wanted my day with her to be so keep that in mind as your write criticism. As to the future of me and her, female friend of mine says to lay back and wait for her to text me to see where this is gonna go but I'm not sure that's the best advice. What do you all think I should do? Feel free to ask for any additional information you need.

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    Default Re: Went To Lunch With Two Old Friends, HB7 and Obstacle

    Definitely set up a second date...without "Andrew." Should be obvious

    I think your biggest obstacle is her bf, in which case you should get her talking about him and use a bf destroyer. They work - personal experience.

    As for the IOIs, I think only 2 and 6 count, but that's probably stretching it.

    What you should take note of - "...call anytime."

    That's probably your biggest ioi in all of this. It's a little hard to tell what's going on in her head because, well, the conversation matters!

    Again, I recommend the bf destroyer because it works if you do it right. However, be prepared to deal with the consequences! I'll have a field report of those shortly

    Good luck!
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    Default Re: Went To Lunch With Two Old Friends, HB7 and Obstacle

    Quote Originally Posted by Vicodin24 View Post
    Definitely set up a second date...without "Andrew." Should be obvious

    I think your biggest obstacle is her bf, in which case you should get her talking about him and use a bf destroyer. They work - personal experience.

    As for the IOIs, I think only 2 and 6 count, but that's probably stretching it.

    What you should take note of - "...call anytime."

    That's probably your biggest ioi in all of this. It's a little hard to tell what's going on in her head because, well, the conversation matters!

    Again, I recommend the bf destroyer because it works if you do it right. However, be prepared to deal with the consequences! I'll have a field report of those shortly

    Good luck!
    Thanks for replying. Yeah, I know the conversation matters but it's been a couple days and it's hard enough to get people to read FRs as it is. What would you recommend for a second date? I was thinking pool as it's an easy way to kino. Plus, cheap beer.

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    Default Re: Went To Lunch With Two Old Friends, HB7 and Obstacle

    I was gonna say to go with anything that can help with Kino, so pool (like you said), bowling, movies (although that might be a little to forward now and a waste of time until you've built enough attraction and sexual Tension), etc.

    Completely unethical for me to say thing, but a few beers should loosen both of you up and make things much easier for you.

    Also, posting in the "Ask An Expert" section will probably get you a lot more help!
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    Default Re: Went To Lunch With Two Old Friends, HB7 and Obstacle

    Quote Originally Posted by Vicodin24 View Post
    I was gonna say to go with anything that can help with Kino, so pool (like you said), bowling, movies (although that might be a little to forward now and a waste of time until you've built enough attraction and sexual Tension), etc.

    Completely unethical for me to say thing, but a few beers should loosen both of you up and make things much easier for you.

    Also, posting in the "Ask An Expert" section will probably get you a lot more help!
    I was thinking that too. I just didn't wanna waste anyone's time on something like this that may or may not really be going somewhere.


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