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    Default Crushed by alpha males in suits.

    Been gaming this HB7 for sometime now. Her and her sister took me out with their "guy friends" to a local cafe. They were all in suits and talking big game about "money and finance". A bunch of yuppies with money.

    They all pretty much acted like alpha males and ganged up on me during conversations. You can tell they were really close and you could tell they were flexing on me to lower my value in front of the girls I was with.

    I didn't say much, but I felt really pathetic because of this. The girls could notice my insecurities as well and I felt extremely pathetic. I don't have a job or a bunch of fancy suits to wear and I felt inferior. I don't know if I was paranoid or what, but I could of sworn they were making jokes and talking sh1t about me when I would leave.

    I started feeling nervous and socially awkward. It was a very uncomfortable situation and I feel like a bitch.

    What can I do to stop this from ever happening again? I barely know how to game girls, yet take control of a group of alpha males.

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    Default Re: Crushed by alpha males in suits.

    Your frame isn't solid enough yet. You need to become more confident, and learn how to hold that confidence in hostile situations.

    These guys talk money and finance in a cafe. They're probably boring. So yeah, they had a leverage over you being in a closed group, looking sharp with filled pockets. Screw that, you have personality! Which is what women mostly fall for. Plus, you knew the girls. You could have talked to them instead and make them laugh and stuff. Had you done that, they would have had a good time with you and you wouldn't have felt insecure.

    Closed groups are very difficult to get into as an outsider, and it's only possible if they allow you to. Remember the above strategy for next time. When you're more confident and experienced, you could even bite those suckers in the ass by walking over to a beautiful woman and attract her (especially when they've noticed her).

    Don't feel bad about it, mate. This road is a bumpy one and we've all gone home feeling like sh1t numerous times. Keep your head up!

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    Default Re: Crushed by alpha males in suits.

    Does anyone have tips on building a strong frame? Not a fake frame, but actual activities that will last me my entire life? I feel like some days I have a strong confident frame and other days it's really weak. It doesn't take much to weaken my frame either, so I guess it's not as strong as I think.

    Btw, these girls both text me that same night. Telling me they had fun and for me to come hang out today. They text me within 10 minutes of each other and they're sisters. So it seems like they were talking about me (maybe even felt bad) and is now trying to be nice to me.

    I replied with a regular response like yeah it was fun etc., but didn't accept their invitation. Feedback?

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    Default Re: Crushed by alpha males in suits.

    Quote Originally Posted by he4rtbre4ker View Post
    Been gaming this HB7 for sometime now. Her and her sister took me out with their "guy friends" to a local cafe. They were all in suits and talking big game about "money and finance". A bunch of yuppies with money.

    They all pretty much acted like alpha males and ganged up on me during conversations. You can tell they were really close and you could tell they were flexing on me to lower my value in front of the girls I was with.

    I didn't say much, but I felt really pathetic because of this. The girls could notice my insecurities as well and I felt extremely pathetic. I don't have a job or a bunch of fancy suits to wear and I felt inferior. I don't know if I was paranoid or what, but I could of sworn they were making jokes and talking sh1t about me when I would leave.

    I started feeling nervous and socially awkward. It was a very uncomfortable situation and I feel like a bitch.

    What can I do to stop this from ever happening again? I barely know how to game girls, yet take control of a group of alpha males.
    Damn , I wish I was there we would have had a blast. Listen man, there was an opportunity to smash these cats. They built their frame upon money, you could have made a very clever joke of that. Once they started the war you could have crushed them.

    Oh wow, those are some nice suits. Do you guys hang out and shop together? You should take these girls on your next mall run, chicks love the mall.

    Finance, man you guys are so fascinating talking about money. Women love it more than anything when guys talk about money, right ladies, isn't that sexy?

    Man, I sense a real team spirit here. It's like you guys can finish each otheres sentences and finish each others jokes, (looking at the girls) that's cute huh, it's like they are all bffs.

    You would have made them look like clowns and the girls would have loved it.

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    Default Re: Crushed by alpha males in suits.

    I like everyone's suggestion. But I've been the same situation a few times, actually, where a girl I was gaming brought me to a big group situation. And you have to keep in mind, it's a test, a big test. She clearly likes you and you have been doing something right. If you had better frame, it would have definitely made elevated your value in her eyes. What I've done in situations like this, is I end up finding something in common with one of the guys, and we start shooting the shit. I ignore the target, and keep talking to the dude, or the others. You have proper frame, guys will respect that. But I've also been in "hostile" situation where my method of finding a dude in the group was not happening. In that situation, I would have said to the girl, all this money talk is making me dumber I think. I'll be back. Then I always find someone, another woman at the bar, or a group of woman and start my sets thereafter. Every time I've done this, I met some cool girls, time flew, forgot about the target, next thing I know the target is pulling on my shirt, saying hey. And then you say, oh hey.. and then it's on... 1) you showed you were a social guy and tried to friend a dude in the group, if you do a good job, then you are still the fun social guy, 2) if not, you tried, and you did it with frame, the girl will know, her "friends" are dckheads, and then you excuse yourself with that money makes me dumber thing 3) you show serious value when you start talking to a bunch of other girls and you are having a good time.
    The world is your matrix. You control the strings.

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    Default Re: Crushed by alpha males in suits.

    Great feedback and material guys. I like blazeboy's strategy, but if I get into a hostile situation I might have to rag on them and use some of Suave's comebacks. Man, I really wish I could rewind time and do this all over again.


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