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    Default Working with Disqualifiers

    I had gone out to a new club a few towns away with a couple of friend. A couple of approaches didn’t go to well, a couple went pretty well. These are the two that stand out the most.
    A blonde, brunette and black haired girl. Using the two-part kiss opener the black haired girl says that if the girl is bisexual than its fine. So instantly I use what I think is a disqualifier by saying “Note to self...never date THIS girl.” while waving my fingers at her. They laugh immediately. I continue, saying that is a double standard. Now she’s trying to justify herself by saying “I meant that if the girl really likes her friend and want to be with her than it isn’t an issue”. So I go into why I’m asking and put in a false time constraint and take a small step away for congruency.
    They continue but I don’t remember what they said. Next I ask black hair to show me her hand. She gives it to me but is worried asking “what are you going to do?” I ignore this and run the finger test because I couldn’t think of anymore to say. She’s got really nice nails and their real. But I neg her for it anyway. She laughs (I don’t know though by the laugh, if she was thinking, is this guy really trying right now”). I tell her that her index is the same length as her ring finger so she was exposed to more estrogen in the womb. Next her two friends gave me their hands and asked about their fingers.
    I look at black hair then to her friends saying “I bet she is a big girly girl…Well this explains it.” Black hair agrees but also says she rides dirt bikes and plays basketball or something. Next it’s the typical “How to you know each other?” It turns out that black hair goes to a college right down the road. We talk briefly about some of the events the college has.
    From here I eject because I ran out of stuff to stay. Question, how close was I to A3? It felt like I was getting there but I’m not too certain.

    Two set, two brunettes – Again, open with two-part kiss question. The girl on the left says she can’t say’s much since she’s made out with girls before. Now I give her and her friend a look and tell them “we’re going to have a lot of fund tonight. But don’t get any ideas now.” For a Push-Pull. They start laughing. At the end of the opener the girl on the left tells that her boyfriend knows she kisses girls and is fine with that. I respond by saying that I’m totally jealous, they laugh hard again.
    Now I run the Q-test. Tell the second girl that we’ll see how well she knows her friend. They both respond, saying that they’re cousins. I jokingly tell them “I take back what I said about us having fun, I don’t want any incest stuff happening.”, now their hysterically laughing.
    We run the Q-test and the girl on the left draws the tail on the right side of her forehead. I say to them “Interesting, that very interesting!” with a lot of enthusiasm. Continuing with “It means nothing; I just wanted to see you do something silly.” They start laughing again. Now I go into what the Q means for her personality. That she’s a very honest person and expects the same as other. A good lie detector and has a small knit group of friend. Everything I’m telling them is correct. Half way through they both ask how I know this stuff to which I ignore and finish. Now I try to being them to the bar with me to get a drink (completely forgetting A3) but they say that their waiting for they’re friends. I’m about to walk so I asked them their names and then they asked for mine. Didn’t see them the rest of the night.

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    Default Re: Working with Disqualifiers

    you got some good rapport with the girls that's for sure. They are receptive. However, here are a few things I think you can change to improve... you seem to be doing too much to get their attention or break awkward silences or what not. So here's a general rule, do your normal opener, then proceed with a close. You are lingering aorund too long, tyring to go grab a drink, on top of asking them the 2-part kiss questions.

    This is what I usually go with a 2 minute limit, the song should be the same as I enter and leave the "scene".. opener, introduce myself, ask them what brings them out and make comments on their "appearance" (girls love that a guy notices what they wear because they make a big effort.. a little neg and recover with a compliment). then instead of the typical i gotta find my buddies or what not .. point to some random group and say, my friends are back.. whats your number, I would love to talk more. but it's better at a quieter place.. N close bam* .. if things go well, kiss them.

    One thing is about textbooks, I never read one, and I've had pretty good success, but be careful applying too many concepts all at once because then you become "trying too hard" and it doesn't demonstrate higher value.

    when you open, hands on their shoulder or touch their hair and comment on it if you decide that as your opener. Keep it simple.

    Side note, don't ignore a girl's questions because they will know you are up to something .. if you don't have a good answer, make it up. So if they ask how do you know this stuff, just say, oh my ex-gf was really into analyzing her body and she'd tell me all her findings. etc etc etc. Hope this helps.

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    Default Re: Working with Disqualifiers

    I agree with studmuffin. You say you put in the time constraint, and seems like you were in the set for a really long time. It's not congruent. Keep it shorter. If those first two to three minutes went well, they will be looking for you to talk to again. But too many routines at once, is too much.
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    Default Re: Working with Disqualifiers

    One thing though, about the time constraint. If the girls were that into you, would it really matter if you stayed longer? Plenty of times I remember about to leave some friends and we ended up talking about something else then remembered that I had to leave.

    Everything else I'm with you guys on.


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