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    Unhappy First field report, need help kiss closing

    I'm a new member here and this will be my first post, I've number closed this girl that goes to a salsa place i frequently go, she was there today.

    I decided to apply what I've been reading here (Kino, ioi's and a little on keeping the conversation going, also a little of openers and closers) and this is how it went.

    Before it starts i have to say I'm a good salsa dancer, not amazing but good enough to make girls want to dance with me, i have below average look, i'm not that tall and i suck at kiss and f-closing (the one i've gotten are mainly b/c the girl almost threw themselves at me).

    - I approach the girl (I've danced with her before and she is nice, if i had to rate her probably an 8) and ask her for a dance, she agrees, i do nothing and this goes for around 1 hour, i keep dancing with other girls, after the time passes i feel it's time to make my moves.

    - I dance with her a salsa song, and stay with her with the excuse to practice some moves, (I actually show her the moves and tell her where she is doing them wrong and why).

    -We start dancing bachata (damn sexy music, and amazing for kino) i start being a little touchy, she gets away a little but she comes back, after a few songs i increase the touching and continue touching her as we talk when we are not dancing.

    -Then i decide i will try to go for it in a song, i read somewhere that if you pull the girl's hair they go crazy (but this point i already had around 2 or 3 IOI, didn't count) so i pull her hair and she makes a face like WTH! then i back out a little b/c i felt she didn't like it; she moves really really close... i tell her that her hair smells really nice, she grabs me tighter. I repeat the hair pull and she comes even closer.

    -The song ends and i'm touching her a lot, and she is too; we sit in a place a little more private, the club will play 2 more songs and that's it, then it will close.

    -I know i have to go for it, I memorized the kino's 5 kisses kiss closing technique but i dunno... i'm afraid or something...

    -In the end i don't do anything and feel like a wuss... i invited her to go dance again on tuesday and she said she works but she will go.

    I'm pretty much asking for advice, opinions; what to do, what should i have done and what should i work on, i'm a total noob and even if i feel ballsy i'm super nervous a lot of the times, especially when kiss closing and f closing, a lot of girls i think are good to go have given me the cold shoulder; and i really like this girl.

    HEEELP!

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    Default Re: First field report, need help kiss closing

    Ugh! Well you were doing awesome and even manage to recover...all the way until you wussed out. Truthfully, all that you wrote that you did was all for naught if you couldn't close. If you were a salesman, you would've lost a sale (and the commission to your paycheck). Luckily, you might have a second go at this girl IF she comes back.

    Okay, so here's what I gathered. You are a good dancer, you know it. When you dance, how do you feel? I'm sure you are in the moment. You feel you are at your best. Confident. Yes? You own the floor. Any salsa dancer tries to outperform you, will you back down? I doubt it. You exude this confidence when you dance like cologne and women can smell it on you. They succumb to you and you lead them. So...

    Just remember, what you need to do is take that same confidence and carry it with you off the dance floor. In fact, that entire club and city you live in should be one big dance floor and you own it. The dance floor doesn't stop at the tables or at the walls. The game of seduction is one big dance.

    Kino's Suave 5 kiss escalation is an awesome tool you had at your disposal. It doesn't come easier than that. The problem is when you like a girl too much, you put too much value on her and worry about losing her. It's the downfall of any PUA. Just remember no woman has more value than you. Just like when you dance, IT'S HER who better be the one keeping up with you. You are dominant. I don't know much about salsa, but in many dance forms (like flamenco), the male takes a dominant stance. So find that same association when you dance the game of seduction.

    So next time KISS HER ALREADY! If you don't try, you automatically fail 100%. That's worst than getting rejected. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

    Happy Hunting

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    Default Re: First field report, need help kiss closing

    So, next time i get to see her; i go trough the whole process again or just go for it?

    It just that it just seemed so surreal to be working, i've always had troubles with the escalation thing and even more with the close and when i saw everything worked like what i read, i kind of couldn't even believe it myself D:

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    Default Re: First field report, need help kiss closing

    Always remember that attraction is fleeting. When you create attraction, you need to 'ride the wave.' If you don't, once attraction fades over time, women's logical side regain control and she might second guess her behavior.

    So you need to start it up again, recreate the moment, carry that same confidence off the dance floor and go for it.

    Don't wuss out. Treat it as if you only got 1 shot at this.

    I'd be lying to you if I say escalation is easy. It takes practice to feel comfortable doing that. If you can't feel comfortable with yourself in a social situation, you can't make a woman feel the same.

    Happy Hunting

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    Default Re: First field report, need help kiss closing

    Thanks mate, i really appreciate the help; i need practice but i think i'm on the right track, just need to correct some things and grow some balls


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