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Thread: Am I getting lazy? I let them open me.

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    Default Am I getting lazy? I let them open me.

    I'm finding I do best at letting the HB's open me. I dress in such a way that I will clearly be the best dressed guy in the place. I include a bright but classy necktie (usually Jerry Garcia) for my peacock accessory. I smile all the time and brighten the smile when I make eye contact with a target. If i get a genuine smile back i just pass right on by unless they stop me. Usually they will blurt out "nice tie". at that point I thank them for the compliment verbally and with Kino (gentle hand shake if they are seated or a quick playfull hug if they are standing). Then I go into finding out who is who. if i dont get stopped I mill about through the crowd as if I'm looking for someone. After making eye contact with everyone I am interested in I sit near but not next to one of the targets and ignore all of them while I make sure they see me looking at other women (no one I got an ioi from). I always try to choose a location where everyone has to pass by, like near the restrooms or near the service area of the bar. This gives them a reason to come by. The closest target will usually open me at this point. Then I watch my peripheral vision for when the others will pass by. They will soon need to come by and open me.

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    Default Re: Am I getting lazy? I let them open me.

    Nice work! I use a similar technique when I want to see if I can get HB's to open me. I have had the most success with Red or White ties. Women seem to always compliment and want to touch them ;-) ... When I Isolate a target I usually take off my tie and put it around her ... not sure if thats the "right" thing to do since Im still real new to this PUA scene but I have had success doing this. Thanks for your post!
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    Default Re: Am I getting lazy? I let them open me.

    I would assume this would severly limit your chances. Is this the case?

    In my own experience, I get a lot of female attention in general but if only sarged the ones that opened me I would be extremely limited. Is this not the case for you?

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    Default Re: Am I getting lazy? I let them open me.

    Good point suave, I still open sets too. I just like to wait a bit to give them a chance first. If my routine above does not get me any bites I will go and open them. I just have found that some of the best outcomes have come from the ones that have opened me. I guess they figure since they believe they are making the first move they don't need to be on the defensive. Thinking analytically, I would say the likelihood of a Number Close is about 80% for a hot set (they open) vs 50% for a warm set (smile or series of eye contacts before I open) or 20% for a cold set (no prior ioi's before I open). I guess looking at the numbers why wouldn't I start with letting them open!

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    Default Re: Am I getting lazy? I let them open me.

    Letting them open you is OK but i think your right about getting lazy. It takes work for you to be a pua. Letting things just happen relieves u of responsibilty (not good).

    Also, im just a little confused... you let any girl open u? U dont actively go after the ones u want? I dont see how productive this can be. I mean if there's a table of tens, and the table of 6's approach u, arent u wasting opportunities?
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    Default Re: Am I getting lazy? I let them open me.

    LockDown, thanks for kicking my butt a little. I needed to hear that! I am initiating them with eye contact and a flirtatious smile. Rather than use Mystery's 3 second rule and open them on the spot I play coy and pass right by. I don't look at them again. This works well on the 8's and below. 9's and 10's know better than to make eye contact, let alone smile back at me. Your question about 6's approaching when there's a table of 10's nearby is a good one. I would think 10's seeing other ladies approaching me would be a good thing. I would not pull a 6 in front of the 10's, that's for sure. But having any lady approach me seems like it would up my value.

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    Default Re: Am I getting lazy? I let them open me.

    Everyone needs their butt kicked once in awhile lol.

    9s will just look at u gaming 6s and be like, he is getting lesser women so he is not worth my time. Not always but if u work hard at gaming 6s they will come to that conclusion eventually. If u hang a bit with 6s or have fun and dance a bit, u may show you are worth it. Its called social proof.

    Has letting 6s game u ever gotten 9s to game u?
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