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    Default I'm missing something

    Hey everyone,

    So to make a long story short i've become a lot more outgoing over the course of the quarter in college, but i'm still a virgin. ROFL. I've been trying to lose it to pretty much anyone since I haven't had any luck. At parties I usually make out with a couple of girls at least, and i've probably made out with around 20 over the past two months, which is infinitely more successful than i've been before. It took a lot of effort and practice; thanks to this forum for the help particularly Autismus.

    Often girls will let me feel them up or touch other parts when making out, but for some reason it NEVER progresses past that point. At a certain time i'll ask if they "wanna get out of here", or I say "we should go upstairs". I've even tried just getting their number several times, and then trying to initiate something outside of a party, but that also never worked. The most awkward, which is also reoccurring, is when they say they have to be right back, find their friend, etc and then pull a houdini on me out of the party. The most common response is "I'm not gonna sleep with you tonight", or my favorite "I only make out with guys".

    Not sure if im retarded or missing comfort, or whatever, because this makes no sense. I've never even gotten a handjob, which is pretty surprising considering that I thought drunk college parties were relatively promiscuous . I'd consider myself a 7, maybe an 8 on a good day, so im scratching my head here. Confidence is no problem especially when drinking.

    3/4 of the time i'm not even going for attractive girls--maybe a 3 or 4. Not trying to be superficial here and say that these girls should get what they can, but you would think the math Gods would favor me with some fortune at some point, especially since they're not that attractive. The pua masters who get laid every night as easily as picking up groceries are farking brilliant and I lament on my jealously for them.

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    Default Re: I'm missing something

    Well have you ever tried Isolating or Bouncing any of the girls ? If you don't have a place to do anything in its hard I suppose.

    For example me, I have a severe parents, and bringing people to hims is impossible.

    And if you game just to get laid, you'll stress out trust me. Go with the flow and plan nothing, when you want, you take. Meaning if you're in the situation you want a blowjob, Isolate the girl in a safe spot, keep the honey talk and the kissing and propose it to her.

    I once was at a party dead drunk, this girl was clearly into me because she couldn't stop brushing her leg against mine. I took her outside for a smoke and moved to the staircases (Isolated), from there we honey talked and I though her a bit of Bachata. After a bit of make out, I told her to ''bop'' so she did. I didn't bust a nut after a while so I just told her to stop and left. Simple

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    Default Re: I'm missing something

    Quote Originally Posted by ablindman9 View Post
    Well have you ever tried Isolating or Bouncing any of the girls ? If you don't have a place to do anything in its hard I suppose.

    For example me, I have a severe parents, and bringing people to hims is impossible.

    And if you game just to get laid, you'll stress out trust me. Go with the flow and plan nothing, when you want, you take. Meaning if you're in the situation you want a blowjob, Isolate the girl in a safe spot, keep the honey talk and the kissing and propose it to her.

    I once was at a party dead drunk, this girl was clearly into me because she couldn't stop brushing her leg against mine. I took her outside for a smoke and moved to the staircases (Isolated), from there we honey talked and I though her a bit of Bachata. After a bit of make out, I told her to ''bop'' so she did. I didn't bust a nut after a while so I just told her to stop and left. Simple
    Thanks for the response and advice i really appreciate it. You're right I shouldn't be focused on getting laid, and rather having a good time. I'm always having a good time, but that nagging thought of virginity is in the back of my mind. I'll try to stop doing that.

    My eventual goal is always to try an isolate the girl. I guess you identified an area of weakness, because I can never convince them to come to an isolated spot with me. Our frat house has many excellent places to isolate girls, but they are never down. They will always leave or make an excuse to not be isolated, because I guess they don't want to go any further with me.

    I wish I could be like you, but alas girls never express interest in me first, so not quite that simple. I always have to initiate everything-- from initial attraction, to dancing, to makeout. ioi's are extremely rare, and unless I have some very successful game they probably won't even dance with me. If i don't i'd be the awkward kid standing in a corner.

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    Default Re: I'm missing something

    You cannot necessarily use "Math" involving such instances.

    I always use the philosophy of Hot(hard) Vs Ugly(easy) which you'll understand shortly when it comes to reasoning your means of success.

    The idea of one going for the hot girl seems it would be hard to get them out on a date, isolated, and game their pants off...so the common sense idea would be Hey I could talk the panties off a ugly girl. Come to find out you fail harder with the common female and end up never talking to hot girls since you cannot even manage with the average girl.

    At this point using such logic you are absolutely confused and probably depressed and in a spray-and-pray outlook trying to get anything desparately.

    Solution? Dont think any of it is going to be easy working by some "angled" logic. Dont scrape the barrel of success, go to the fresh barrel and dunk your head in. Put your aim a bit higher and have confidence in yourself...you'll be surprised what can happen. In other words you need to have an open mind and dont think theres some slated in stone path you can follow each and everytime....have to be flexible in methods.

    In fact thinking theres some set in stone plan can lead you astray. Just go with the flow. Alot of girls have witnessed the stereotypical come on and are use to handling it.

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    Default Re: I'm missing something

    Quote Originally Posted by serp777 View Post
    At parties I usually make out with a couple of girls at least, and i've probably made out with around 20 over the past two months
    *Digital High-Five Serp!

    I'm proud of you man, you've come a long way and you are very close to your goal. There is only a little further to go.

    I'm assuming that most of these parties are frat parties - which have a reputation to raise girls shields.

    Consider the mindset of a girl: she wants to drink, she wants to feel sexy and be desired, she does not want to feel like she's being used <these are the factors involved in getting laid at frat parties or in most college scenarios. She knows that at a frat party she can drink (because lets be honest, at collegr parties guys are gonna throw drinks at girls like crazy) so she shows up, gets a little tipsey, starts talking to you and attraction builds. Girls love being sexual - but even more than that girls love being Sensual. So she thinks "Hmm, this guy is cute, I'm attracted to him, we can make out." Then when you try to isolate or bounce her the sensual fantasy is shattered, she remembers she's at a frat party, she assumes you want to use her for sex, and she gets the fark out.

    Try some "token resistance" - when you're making out, put your hand on her chest and push her away gently. Say "I don't want you to get the wrong idea. I don't want to sleep with you tonight. We're just gonna make out, tonight and then I'll text you in the morning" *Kino's Number Close*
    (Note: be running kino - stroking her hair and face - while you say this)
    (Note: after you n-close keep making out with her for a bit. Maybe even hang out or, meet her friends or play beer pong togrther if it happens organically)
    (Note: this only works if you've qualified her on something fairly unique about her that would make you want to make out with her - otherwise she'll think you just want her for sex)

    So then the next day shoot her a cute/cocky text. It will have the opposite effect of buyers remorse (she will be GLAD she made out with you) and you can probably close her ona D2


    As for the HB scale: I tend to agree that you should set your sights higher, but for a diffrrent reason (in addition to agreeing with DJ Chill). 3's and 4's are gonna be hard to game because they expect to be used for sex. They probably don't get much attention from guys and when they do they rarely get called back. So in that environment 3/4 chicks will be tough. Anything above HB8 will take some advanced skill because they will sh1t test like crazy. I would suggest going for the HB6 or HB7 and make sure to qualify them on their personality or intelligence. And remember to token resist at the moment when she is most aroused.

    (Final Note to anyone else reading this: follow the cardinal rule of "always leave her better than you found her" when you use my techniques. Treat her right, make her feel good, don't hump and dump, keep it casual and be honest)

    Good hunting Serp!
    Last edited by Autismus; 02-13-2013 at 11:57 AM. Reason: HB Data
    DTF HB's omw 2 LTR


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