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    Default Overcoming AA and Gaining Consistency and Competence

    March 3, 2013 @ Ala Moana Shopping Center

    I park on the bottom floor and decide to do some approaches at the mall while I wait for 730pm to roll around. I was supposed to meet up with this girl from PoF, but she ended up working (flake most likely). I walked from the front of the mall to the center stage where there was a huge make-up event going on (lots of people gathering around and lots of transgendered females were apart of the hosting group), so I made my way toward the food court. Before I could make it past Lids one of the guys at the kiosk stands offered me a massage ~ I was already excited for wanting to approach people so I played along. He sat me in a chair, hooked up these sticky pads to my back, and the massage began. It was intense because my body was moving uncontrollably with each pulse. I destroyed his "seller-buyer" act by consistently changing the subject and getting to know him better. Eventually, we got onto the topic of girls and I told him he was a cool cat so I'd do what I can to help his business. He let me go and I was off!

    I walked through the stores looking for mother's day gifts and women to approach to just have a short conversation. I went to the Apple store and ended up seeing one of my old classmates there who knew a girl that I met at a club a long, long time ago ~ nice little warm up and surprise. I left and made my way down the strip ~ the entire time that I was moving across the strip I was thinking of openers. One stuck with me and I ended up using it in every store I entered. I started at Bath & Body, where I bought four bottles of lotion while talking to one of the workers there. She was married but it was still a nice conversation. I left there and made my way to one end of the mall.

    Every store I looked in that had a female worker, I immediately approached, all with the same opener: "Hey, I need to ask you a quick question. I'm looking for the free massage place; do you know where it is?" After each approach, I added more to it: "Yeah, the one where the guy sits you in a chair and puts sticky pads on your body and it pulses and contracts your muscles." Every store worker was completely open to helping me find this place and it felt easier and easier to approach and continue on after the opener. "Well, my friend said that it wasn't a 'store' but it was more like a 'kiosk' in the middle somewhere." Added later: "Oh okay, which floors have the kiosks?" which added later: "Oh cool, this is the ______ floor, right?" and ejected afterward. A few store workers actually told me to come back and let them know when I find this place.

    I did about 15+ approaches in 2hours... But only one set stood out ~ HBBlackBelt. I walked in the store, took a deep breath and let it out. She greeted me and went back to her work, so I turned toward her and said "It was actually the smell that brought me in here. I need to ask you a quick question." By this time, I had my 'routine' in the bag and was able to portray strong body language and speak with so much confidence. There were so many IOIs it was rediculous (dropped what she was doing, slowly moved toward me, held strong eye contact while I talked and little eye contact when she talked, pupils dialated, leaned in when i spoke, and I saw her melt when I smiled at her before walking out the first time.) After walking around for about 20minutes I went back to her work place and did the exact same thing when I entered, but this time she was walking past the door and greeted me, asked me if I found it, I said "Yeah, thanks to you!" She smiled and laughed, but continued folding the clothes so I moved past her and to the back of the store. I opened another worker and struck up a little conversation about how I wanted to find a small jacket for my little cousin for his birthday that's a month out, but how the sweater might not be there because their clothes changes every season. I make my way back to the front slowly where HBBlackBelt is in the same spot I met her. As I walk out the door she says Bye! and I say bye, pause, and walk toward her.
    Me: Hey, thanks again. You have a really cute smile. I'm [name], what's your name?
    HBBlackBelt: [name] *big smile*
    Me: *smile changes to a questioning face* You're in high school.. riiiight? (qualifier)
    HBBlackBelt: Yeah, Senior year.
    Me: at [guesses school]
    HBBlackBelt: Noo [actual school]
    Me: *turn back to her as if walking away, i hear her laugh, and i turn back around to her* just playing *smile* i had a friend blahblahblahblahblah blah
    We rambled on for a good 5minutes until I felt uncomfortable and ejected with a handshake and a smile ~ I felt guilty because I really was attracted to her and she was attracted to me too, but I couldn't get myself to get her number or invite her out after.

    Notes:
    - I approached mainly store workers (Hired Guns?) and one random (who was obviously underage and creeped out lol).
    - Using the same opener each time helped to build a 'routine' that was flexible enough to adapt to every approach later.
    - Body Language Confidence and Verbal confidence grew with each approach.
    - If there was a female in the store at the time I passed, I entered and immediately approached.


    Improves:
    - Approach not only store workers (hired guns?) but random shoppers as well.
    - Notice IOIs and self-coach myself during each set.
    - Move to the next step; build comfort and rapport.


    Sustains:
    - Using the same opener builds a flexible 'routine' and great competence, and competence is confidence.
    - Don't reward female with all of your attention (ie. entire front of body, more than enough eye contact, occassional glances, etc).
    - Continue to approach store workers (hired guns?) without hesitation.


    Questions, Comments, Improves, and Sustains are greatly appreciated ~ as long as it's constructive criticism. We're all here to grow. Keep in mind that I've been awake for over 40hours.
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    Default Re: Overcoming AA and Gaining Consistency and Competence

    Well done getting over your aa! And don't worry about the Number Close you'll cross that bridge later. I also liked the dhv's about buying a sweater for your little cousin. Keep up the good work the only thing I'd suggest is have your openers a little more involving so you can get her to invest a bit more. Other than that, kudos!

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    Cool Re: Overcoming AA and Gaining Consistency and Competence

    Thanks, Yorba. I never thought of buying a sweater for my little cousin as a dhv, but I see it now.

    I think that this opener worked well with mostly store workers because each one of them that I asked gave me that "omg where is this place" look, like they've heard of it, but they didn't know where it was either ~ that's why I mentioned the 'kiosk' to give them a more general idea of where it might be; after mentioning the kiosk they immediately pointed me to the same direction as everyone else ~ the funny thing was that I already knew where it was hehe

    A lot of firsts for me here:
    First time gaming at a shopping center; first time gaming shop workers; first time (in a long time) feeling so much Tension and attraction between myself and someone else.
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    Default Re: Overcoming AA and Gaining Consistency and Competence

    Hey OP SmoothFLow,

    Got some questions for you.

    1. How old are you?
    2. Is this your first time approaching?
    3. What is your goal? F-close, Girlfriend, Date, etc?

    First off I am not disappointed in how you performed but I would like to try and help your perception a little and maybe offer another perspective.

    The Mall is one of the worst places to meet women (but great for a 1st date). Let me help you out.

    Here are some of the best places.

    Water Parks, Amusement Parks, Bars, Clubs, Local City Holiday Events (Memorial Day Weekend Events, July 4th Events, Labor Day Events), Beer Festivals (I am guessing you are under 21?), Secular Concerts, St Paddy's Day Parade, etc.

    This is list is the bomb diggity if you want to meet eligible women and have options available to you which puts you in an abundance mindset rather than scarcity mindset which often creates aa and Oneitis big time.

    Just one of my own personal rules to Pick Up.
    1. Never hit on chicks that are working (unless you are friends first, frequent visitor, knows you by name, know things about her, etc.)

    This will save you a lot of frustration down the road trust me. I have often hit on chicks that worked at the Buckle that I didn't know and N-closed them and got shut down hard core. Yeah I became a PUA because of that. Remember it is never a good idea because it is awkward for them and they are always worrying if giving you their number will make them look bad.

    My suggestion is it is easier to hit on a hot bartender as opposed to a hot chick that works in the Mall once you develop a lot of comfort. And I mean a lot! Chicks that are working are truly hard to game. I have been gaming this female bartender (HB9) for about a month now and still haven't even closed her! Not because I am afraid but because she has a BF and I need to show some serious pre-selection, develop heavy rapport, get her invested, then see if she pursues me, then I can close her. If I N-Closed her now it would be a sure blow out. It would be much better where the playing ground is on more mutual terms like I said.

    It is good you didn't N-close them because they would have flipped like a pancake and turned from nice to freaked out. Just build serious comfort for long periods of time before you ever try to close a girl that is working. I am not saying it can't be done but near impossible and there are better arenas to exploit your talents. Plus I never see an abundance HB7's and up roaming the Mall ever!

    By the way I have only successfully N-closed a hot chick that works in the Mall once because I already knew her, nobody was around, she already gave me her # like 3 times before that, etc.

    However like I said Beer Fests, Clubs, Bars, Water Parks, Local City Holiday Events, are so full of hot chicks you can't run that thing dry! Go where there is abundance and less difficulty. Look up the local events for holidays and stuff for your city. St Paddy's Day Parade is coming up and I live in Denver and there is going to be some 200,000 plus people attending so don't you think there is going to be an abundance of hot women running around? OMG I am going to be in PUA heaven here in a couple weeks. By the way bro you will do much better when you can stack sets, do verbal warm ups w/non-hotties, build momentum by getting results, have options, approach multiple times on the same target after regrouping, etc.

    This is why I say the Mall is a bad arena to run game because you can't really stack sets and if anything you will feel crazy about the "1" girl you met at such and such. Then you are falling prey to losing confidence and showing less than favorable characteristics. This just doesn't happen in the arenas I mentioned.

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    Default Re: Overcoming AA and Gaining Consistency and Competence

    im gonna argue this one. malls arent a bad place to game at all, depending on the size. yes a small mall can be an issue as far as abundance goes but then again those are called mini malls. in a good size mall you can get rejected all day long until you get used to it and start making some progress. once you get good yes it is better to pick up girls in places that show qualification like doing things that you enjoy doing. however when your first learning malls are a great place to practice gaming a variety of women of different ages and difficulty. also its good practice for street game because its pretty much street game with more targets.
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