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    Default Need Help With HB7s, Both Have BFs

    Reading the posts that peeps have been putting up. Made me want to challenge after girls that I usually don't go after. One is a waitress and a classmate. Both of whom I had no prior knowledge of who they are. I want to stick with it and if I fail, I'll crash and burn but I still want to try this even though I'm a AFC. Problem is I didn't know that two women would have BFs. I still want to go with it, so advice would be appreciated. Thanks

    I'm working on two targets. Both are HB7. Ones from school and the other is a waitress. Just found out today that they both have BFs after doing the cube test on them. One of them I was able to get a better idea of, but just got her to open up about her family. I was surprised that she told me so much, kind of slightly overwhelming. I tried to do the Boyfriend Smasher by telling her that her boyfriend must be the perfect guy. But she kept mentioning that he's to clingy. I made a mistake when she told me about a couple events at our school that I showed disinterest in the events. She seems like an interesting one but I found out that she only has a small circle of friends. I guess her opening about herself will help me to get a better grasp of what type of Pandora's Box type she is.
    The waitress is maybe a HB 7.5. I began with the girlfriend opener and then I did the cube trick and I had to leave because it seems like she was busy working. She ended up asking my name before I left and told me she won't forget. Guys I feel that I can initiate the opener but I'm having trouble with the "negs" and "showing lack of interest." I think I'm doing okay, but need your eyes to see how I'm doing.

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    Default Re: Need Help With HB7s, Both Have BFs

    Don't appoligise for showing disinterest in the school events.

    That was a real emotion coming from you. So don't sugar coat i t. I mean be polite and maybe switch topics to something that you both may be interested in but...you know what I mean.

    The other girl. The waitrees. Has potential.

    The most important thing to remember is chemistry. No game in the world will work if she isn't "feeling you".

    That being said, She has shown interest asking for your name. So proceed with gaming.

    You have an unlimited amount of "reopeners" as long as they are properly spaced out. (Four is the limit, then move on)
    negs should be playful,natural, and be timed correctly.

    Don't think of it as not "showing interest".

    No.

    Think of it as "I'm coming from an abundance of women, and I like you but, ehhh I'm not completely won over, mentality."

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    Talking Re: Need Help With HB7s, Both Have BFs

    Number closed, needs more work

    Alright so I went back to the restaurant to where the waitress was.
    I just asked her those how's your day? - obviously the worst opener, but she was happy to see me. She complimented on my shirt that had musical notes all over it. I found out that she loves music.
    (I don't know what it is but I feel like I have a way of making people open up deep things about people, and honestly not trying to sound cocky but I really am interested, but it's people like me that can easily get into the friend zone)

    Continuing on...
    I used the mystery methods of multiple threads on her and it was pretty shaky. I guessed the number wrong twice, but I got her to laugh and smile a bunch of times. She opened up about how she's not like other people and that there is a side to her that she doesn't really show to people. I explained to her the reason why and it went pretty well. I left because the food was ready and I can tell it won't look good for her to talk with me the whole time. So I asked her name to confirm who she was and I took a piece of papertowels wrote my name and number, and made her do it to. She was pretty cool about it, and even made a mistake of writing her name I gave her a hug, but it was one of those one handed hugs. Very lame, but it's mainly because there wasn't enough kinos to get her to be more comfortable.

    I have a problem because I need to do some more kinos. When I first walked in she's standing by the register and so I reached over and using my backhand I pat her shoulder. But after that there's barely any room for me to do anymore because she's just standing behind the counter the whole time.

    Well this is the progress so far. But needs more work. I'm not even sure what to text her right now. Maybe I should text her about how lame that last hug was and she should give me a proper one next time? I don't know but I'm pretty happy. I'm even smiling as I'm writing this to you guys. I want to learn

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    Default Re: Need Help With HB7s, Both Have BFs

    Quote Originally Posted by seanlee View Post
    Reading the posts that peeps have been putting up. Made me want to challenge after girls that I usually don't go after. One is a waitress and a classmate. Both of whom I had no prior knowledge of who they are. I want to stick with it and if I fail, I'll crash and burn but I still want to try this even though I'm a AFC. Problem is I didn't know that two women would have BFs. I still want to go with it, so advice would be appreciated. Thanks

    I'm working on two targets. Both are HB7. Ones from school and the other is a waitress. Just found out today that they both have BFs after doing the cube test on them. One of them I was able to get a better idea of, but just got her to open up about her family. I was surprised that she told me so much, kind of slightly overwhelming. I tried to do the Boyfriend Smasher by telling her that her boyfriend must be the perfect guy. But she kept mentioning that he's to clingy. I made a mistake when she told me about a couple events at our school that I showed disinterest in the events. She seems like an interesting one but I found out that she only has a small circle of friends. I guess her opening about herself will help me to get a better grasp of what type of Pandora's Box type she is.
    The waitress is maybe a HB 7.5. I began with the girlfriend opener and then I did the cube trick and I had to leave because it seems like she was busy working. She ended up asking my name before I left and told me she won't forget. Guys I feel that I can initiate the opener but I'm having trouble with the "negs" and "showing lack of interest." I think I'm doing okay, but need your eyes to see how I'm doing.

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    Yeah dude tried destroying the BF before ain't going to happen. Most relationships fizzle out in 2-3 years unless they get more serious. So find out where they are at. If they are at the beginning phases it's hard to game them cuz there is still a lot of curiosity going on in their minds. If they are at the 2-3 year mark they are hard to work on cuz they're so commited. But still the 2-3 year itch may be the easiest conversation piece I know to destroy the BF.

    I tried destroying the 1 year BF on this HB9 Bartender by DHV'ing her over and over by macking on super hot chicks in front of her who were doing kino on me, following me around, etc. Then I asked her out, got her to do kino on me, but she is still not invested in me at all. She posted on FB she "loves" him. So dude you are working on a uphill battle.

    But yeah girls will give you a chance but once they bring up the BF thing you are sunk man don't try to game that, too AFC. Save her number and re-open her in like 6 months when she probably is wanting attention.

    I tried this out myself, I got shafted from an HB9 I met at the Club by the "I'm dating someone" excuse. I saved her number hit her up in 6 months and she was down to party. Till I screwed up that is, then she started bringing up the BF thing again and I was done for.

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    Default Re: Need Help With HB7s, Both Have BFs

    Quote Originally Posted by mackdaddyjon View Post
    Yeah dude tried destroying the BF before ain't going to happen. Most relationships fizzle out in 2-3 years unless they get more serious. So find out where they are at. If they are at the beginning phases it's hard to game them cuz there is still a lot of curiosity going on in their minds. If they are at the 2-3 year mark they are hard to work on cuz they're so commited. But still the 2-3 year itch may be the easiest conversation piece I know to destroy the BF.

    I tried destroying the 1 year BF on this HB9 Bartender by dhv'ing her over and over by macking on super hot chicks in front of her who were doing kino on me, following me around, etc. Then I asked her out, got her to do kino on me, but she is still not invested in me at all. She posted on FB she "loves" him. So dude you are working on a uphill battle.

    But yeah girls will give you a chance but once they bring up the BF thing you are sunk man don't try to game that, too AFC. Save her number and re-open her in like 6 months when she probably is wanting attention.

    I tried this out myself, I got shafted from an HB9 I met at the Club by the "I'm dating someone" excuse. I saved her number hit her up in 6 months and she was down to party. Till I screwed up that is, then she started bringing up the BF thing again and I was done for.
    Alright so about the BF thing. The first girl has been with the BF for a long time. It doesn't seem like she's that interested because she only meets him maybe once every 2-3 weeks. She even told me that she will not always hang out with her bf when she's alone because she likes being alone.

    The second girl didn't seem to mention the bf at all after I found out. When I asked her if she had a bf during the cube test she seemed reluctant. Pretty clear that she was, but who knows

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    Default Re: Need Help With HB7s, Both Have BFs

    Quote Originally Posted by seanlee View Post
    Alright so about the BF thing. The first girl has been with the BF for a long time. It doesn't seem like she's that interested because she only meets him maybe once every 2-3 weeks. She even told me that she will not always hang out with her bf when she's alone because she likes being alone.

    The second girl didn't seem to mention the bf at all after I found out. When I asked her if she had a bf during the cube test she seemed reluctant. Pretty clear that she was, but who knows

    Okay excercise caution or nothing at all. Try going up to them and telling them you "might" see a future with them to kind of plant a seed. Then Try to dhv them, show social proof, add them on FB, and talk to them. Get inside their heads and try not to bring up the BF to prevent looking needy. But when they mention him never lower the guy's value just be positive about her feelings and if she is badmouthing him badmouth him with her.

    Then anywhere from 2 weeks-6 months of following the prescribed method go for the kill and ask if they are still seeing someone cuz you want to party with them. I got the Bartender to flirt with me in front of her BF which definitely made me feel Alpha. You got to have mad inner game if you want to pull this off though. It's hard sometimes. Also I have a new theory I am working on check the "PUA openers" section later today for more about opening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mackdaddyjon View Post
    Okay excercise caution or nothing at all. Try going up to them and telling them you "might" see a future with them to kind of plant a seed. Then Try to dhv them, show social proof, add them on FB, and talk to them. Get inside their heads and try not to bring up the BF to prevent looking needy. But when they mention him never lower the guy's value just be positive about her feelings and if she is badmouthing him badmouth him with her.

    Then anywhere from 2 weeks-6 months of following the prescribed method go for the kill and ask if they are still seeing someone cuz you want to party with them. I got the Bartender to flirt with me in front of her BF which definitely made me feel Alpha. You got to have mad inner game if you want to pull this off though. It's hard sometimes. Also I have a new theory I am working on check the "PUA openers" section later today for more about opening.
    Alright I'll be careful with those two and the BFs.
    Alright with the waitress. I DHVed her today slightly based upon what I was doing right now with my life. College student almost done with school and working part time. She seems to like it. I think I'm going to text her about how her suggestion on the food was a good call, but her last hug was a disapointment. Does that seem pretty cocky funny and not sound like a jerk?

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    Default Re: Need Help With HB7s, Both Have BFs

    Quote Originally Posted by seanlee View Post
    Alright I'll be careful with those two and the BFs.
    Alright with the waitress. I DHVed her today slightly based upon what I was doing right now with my life. College student almost done with school and working part time. She seems to like it. I think I'm going to text her about how her suggestion on the food was a good call, but her last hug was a disapointment. Does that seem pretty cocky funny and not sound like a jerk?

    Nope way too much investment on your part, you are coming from a place of low value if you do that. Your image to her must always be the "Fun" guy she wants to party with not some other dude she just met or whatever. Your communication has to come from a place of high value (ie bad boy with Class) meaning you are always down to party with her but take care of your business in the meantime and live smart by not partying all the time like some party dude with no goals in life. You don't have to be a party animal and do drugs but just be like drinking, going to Beer Festivals, going to friend's houses, Clubs, Bars, etc to be that cool guy to pick up chicks there and also have an interesting life to talk about.

    Just be like "Hey girl I am partying tonight with some friends drinking, hoping you stay entertained all night long! But you are always welcome to come party with me" Or whatever like that don't be talking too much about your feelings for her. Just tell her you love to party but are a dude with standards and not like a douchbag or something. Just be truthful and don't lie cuz if she takes you up on your offer you want to stay congruent.

    You could even say "Hey partying at my house by myself drinking could really use some company" if you got nothing going on that night or whatever. Just go buy drinks if she is coming over or whatever and takes you up on the offer. You don't have to really be drinking but ready to get drinks if she's ready to come see you.

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    Default Re: Need Help With HB7s, Both Have BFs

    Quote Originally Posted by mackdaddyjon View Post
    Nope way too much investment on your part, you are coming from a place of low value if you do that. Your image to her must always be the "Fun" guy she wants to party with not some other dude she just met or whatever. Your communication has to come from a place of high value (ie bad boy with Class) meaning you are always down to party with her but take care of your business in the meantime and live smart by not partying all the time like some party dude with no goals in life. You don't have to be a party animal and do drugs but just be like drinking, going to Beer Festivals, going to friend's houses, Clubs, Bars, etc to be that cool guy to pick up chicks there and also have an interesting life to talk about.

    Just be like "Hey girl I am partying tonight with some friends drinking, hoping you stay entertained all night long! But you are always welcome to come party with me" Or whatever like that don't be talking too much about your feelings for her. Just tell her you love to party but are a dude with standards and not like a douchbag or something. Just be truthful and don't lie cuz if she takes you up on your offer you want to stay congruent.

    You could even say "Hey partying at my house by myself drinking could really use some company" if you got nothing going on that night or whatever. Just go buy drinks if she is coming over or whatever and takes you up on the offer. You don't have to really be drinking but ready to get drinks if she's ready to come see you.
    Crap, I should of saw this when I had the chance. I got to impatient and thought I got this so I sent the text and she responded with a laugh. She did mention that she was spiritual so I asked her why she said that and now she's not responding. Not to concerned, but should I be? Btw I go to the restaurant once or twice a week on weekends because it's close to my house, but I don't need to be visiting her a lot at the restaurant right?


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