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    Default Conversations with women today

    OK, I wasn't really trying to pick up any women today.

    Nonetheless I'll give a report on how my conversations went.

    I was at a Bagel place waiting for a woman from my internet group to show up. About two minutes before the woman from my group showed up I had a conversation with a woman that last maybe three minutes. I didn't know this woman but she smiled at me so I struck up a conversation with her based on what something on her shirt said. It turns out she is married but we had a nice conversation anyway. She was very nice. Not sure if I got any solid IOI's but I'm not interested in going out of my way trying to pick up married women anyway. She kept acting ready to leave but I was able to stall her off about two or three times.Eventually I just decided to let this fish go. She was about an HB7. There was girl who was maybe an HB9 or 10 there with some douchey guy wearing a tank top(she was dressed much nicer). Probably not her bf but you never know.

    So the woman I was waiting for shows up. She is also about an HB 7. She had a tendency to talk a lot. I didn't get any(or many solid)ioi's from her. This was more of a friendly thing but you never really know. The thing is she is recently divorced so probably not looking for anything serious(not that I am though). We had a nice conversation that lasted about half an hour(maybe more). I don't usually have conversations with women that last this long. Lol. So anyway, she talked about how open minded she is and mentioned clothing optional beaches etc. I wasn't never really able to(nor was I trying to)get the conversation in an explicitly more sexual direction. We all know if you want to sleep with the woman you have to do this and sooner rather than later. Anyway, it was just a friendly conversation. I would like to know how to get her into my social circle(even though I don't really have one) and be her friend. I think it's good to have female friends.

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    Default Re: Conversations with women today

    Sounds to me she is sexual aggressor...

    Nude beaches in a conversation is up to the discretion of both parties, and she intitated that.

    This has potential.

    How did the interaction close that day? A Number Close would have been appropriate based on some common interest for starters.

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    Default Re: Conversations with women today

    She brought it up but it was in a very casual way. She is in my online group so we both have ways to contact each other but I didn't get a number and I doubt she would have given me her number. I asked if she wanted to go for a walk in the park but she ultimately said no because she "doesn't meet strangers" in the park. I said to her "well, what is this?"(meaning the bagel shop)and she said it is a public place. I could have said "well so is a park" but didn't. I don't think that was a Sh1t Test or anything I just think she said to herself that she doesn't know me well enough yet and didn't want to rush into anything. I'm not going to pursue this one too much to be honest with you.

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    Default Re: Conversations with women today

    She could just be friendly... Or its possible she mentioned it as a mild shit test to see your reaction, if in fact, she was even interested at all...

    That being said if you had established a "Man to Women" frame from the get go, (and she was receptive to that) it would have helped.

    In that case I would have went for an "insta-date" even after being at the bagel shop with her...IF and only IF, she did have strong interest...

    Like when you left, I assume it was with her? You could have taken the lead a lil, and kept her going with a conversation and kind of just walked her to her car type of thing...I suggest this ONLY if you had a solid connection.

    Just sayin...

    But honestly shes recently divoced, (some might call that damgaged goods) so if you do like her enough to game her, then its got to be at a slower pace...she may or may not even want to speak to any guy on that level yet.

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    Default Re: Conversations with women today

    Not sure what you mean by "man to woman frame." I'm a man and she's a woman. I think we both understand that without having to establish that any further.. Lol.

    Yeah, there was really no connection(maybe as friends and I kind of doubt even that). For one thing she talked too much and most of it was all about her with very little of it directed at me personally. Women who talk that much tend to be very self absorbed(I won't say selfish necessarily)and in my opinion are probably really high maintenance and not worth the time. She is investing in the interaction but it's done in a self centered way(for lack of a better term). I have never really had much good luck with women who talk a lot. One even tried to tell me that "I wasn't into her." Lol. I don't think this one would come from that angle though since I did see if she wanted to go for a walk. When she declined that was possibly a bit of a Sh1t Test.

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    Default Re: Conversations with women today

    Smart ass!

    What I ment by man to women frame, was a man that takes advatage of escalation windows, flirting,etc.

    I always try to establish that frame from a cold approach.

    Of course you guys already know each other,haha.
    As a rule, you must have a lil chemistry (connection)first before any game would work.

    Also mentally she has to be interested in guys in general (after a divorce emotions are everywhere)

    A woman will ask about you when she has high interest.
    I think this girl esp after something tramatic as a divorce will be a lil "off"

    She might be self absorbed because of the divorce or that could be naturally narcessitic personality and want an emotional tampon to dump her emotions on (not you my friend.)

    Declining the walk could have been a shit test. I'd game her but slowly, this one seem very low percentage.

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    Default Re: Conversations with women today

    Yep, like I said before she didn't show much interest. She didn't ask me many questions or try to find out much about me. But I wasn't really that interested in her either even though she was pretty cute. Looks aren't everything. I don't want to be intimate with a woman who doesn't care much about what the other person thinks. In her case I just think it was a personality flaw. I have met other women like this. They just are sort of introverted or at least self absorbed. It doesn't surprise me that she got a divorce based on her personality.


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