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Thread: FR: Confusing Twins (Long read, need advice)

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    Default FR: Confusing Twins (Long read, need advice)

    This is long so, fasten your seatbelts. I'll divide this report into 2 parts. Each part will feature one of the twin sisters. Please try to read it all, and answer my questions at the end.

    General info: We were out with a group of 8, 5 guys, 3 girls. 2 of the girls were twin sisters but not physically identical. One is brunette, other one is blonde, both HB8s. I knew some of the guys earlier but the girls were complete strangers for me. The twins were visiting from abroad to see the other guys (they are high school friends), but clearly they were friendzoned each other long time ago. So I thought, why not? I'll probably never see these girls again, I should just go for it. A dude in the group said that the blonde one has a bf back in the country so I should stay away from her and focus on the other one. No problem, both of them are gorgeous anyway...

    Part 1: Target, Brunette (At the cafe)
    The day started early, after we all agreed to sit in a cafe and chat, eat.

    Game on...
    The group took 2 seperate cars. I went with a guy from the group and the twins. The guy was driving, blonde was in front passenger seat, brunette and me in the back seats... Here we go, attract and kino escalate. I asked the girls about the group back in high school, what do they study back where they live, etc. The brunette was the talkative one and she said she was into psychology, so after we've talked a bit more, I ran the ESP number test on her. It didn't go pretty well but she looked impressed after all. I did some pushing & pulling, NEGging and it was working, I slowly escalated kino. First shoulder to shoulder, then my hand on her legs... It was processing fine I thought, for a 15-minute drive. But I was far from done...

    Be the AMOG
    The group got reunited in the cafe and it was the time to show I'm the AMOG. The guys in the group were mostly shy guys except one but it wasn't too hard to AMOG him out since his body language was false and he didn't look interested as he was busy smoking and checking his phone.

    Some dhv too
    I pulled out some DHV stories, focused the group's attention, made them enjoy the convo and everyone was feeling good. Now I was focusing on the group's vibe rather than totally focusing on the target. Our kino with the target was broken since she sat across the table. I told her to come sit next to me to establish kino again, but she said she was fine like that.

    Focus on the target
    After couple minutes the only other non-shy guy had to leave because he had some other plans. With him out of the picture, being the AMOG was even easier. After some (rather gameless) couple hours, I changed seats to connect with my target again. We played a little game (just the 2 of us), she was always energetic, talkative and it was almost hard to keep up with her energy level. But hey I've got this...

    Hit the bars
    Since it was getting late and the group was still feeling the vibe, it was time to hit the bars. Yeah you guessed right, the AMOG was to select where shall the group go. I picked a shot bar and the group was excited because most of them were never been there. I ordered around 100-120 shots, picked some exotic stuff for the ladies and some strong stuff for the gentlemen. They enjoyed the drinks but I hoped my target won't get drunk too much because then I would feel like I was taking advantage.

    The group were getting a bit tipsy and it was perfectly fine. Now it was the time to re-focus on the target and take it to another level. Since she was a bit tipsy she wanted to dance and I took her to the dance floor. It wasn't good because, every time I tried to kino, pulled her close to me, held her hands, her back, she pulled herself back. So, before I got frustrated I ejected myself from the dance floor gracefully.

    Losing the Target
    After couple minutes the non-shy dude joined us again at the bar as he saw us while he was passing by. My target was excited to see him, I didn't understand why so I thought she's just tipsy and over excited.

    After some couple more shots and some photo taking, we decided the place was dead and we went to another bar which has a better dancing atmosphere and overall younger customers. Everyone was ready to dance but I couldn't isolate the target on the dance floor because the guy/gal ratio was unequal and I was still a bit upset from the past dancing incident with the target.

    After some dancing, everyone was tired enough, and the group was seperated. Some was chatting in the balcony, some was in the bathroom... My target was sitting outside, isolated with the non-shy dude and it seemed they've got some connection. So I wandered back to our table inside the bar, feeling like I was losing my target. I was frustrated and tired and my inner AFC was about to kick in...

    Part 2: Blonde sister (At the bar)
    I was sitting alone inside the bar, then the blonde HB showed up and sat right next to me. We talked a bit, laughed about how some guys danced so funny... She looked highly interested and she was the one to initiate kino. So, suddenly I forgot about my target, put my arm around the blonde, pulled her close and whispered in her ear that how cute she looked as her cheeks and nose blushes, when she drinks. She laughed and we continued chatting with a bit push & pull included. We took some photos together, talked about our day, funny moments, etc.

    But I couldn't go any further because the fact that I knew she had a bf back there, it felt like she was going to reject me at instant if I go for the k-close.

    After some couple minutes, everyone started leaving, thus the night has come to an end...

    Self-evaluation:
    • NEGs on my initial target (the brunette) might came off a bit d1cky, because she looked a bit upset by the last NEG.
    • I broke kino with the target when we moved to another location and failed to re-establish it right away.
    • I was too focused on pulling my target close rather than just having fun on the dance floor.
    • I let the frustration on the dance floor affect my game for the rest of the night.
    • I've almost gone AFC after I see my target with the other dude.
    • I've had issues dealing with rejection, while trying to k-close the blond chick, because she has a bf.

    Questions:
    • What's the reason behind the target pulling herself back on the dance floor? Excessive NEGs? Failed re-establishing kino beforehand? Or her head was a bit fuzzy because of the alcohol?
    • How could the other guy connect with my target with only showing up by barely an hour and without showing alpha characteristics? (He just put up one DHV story, other than that he was usually silent.)
    • Why did the blonde chick suddenly show interest without I barely gamed on her?
    • We will go out with the same group tonight, what can I do to k-close the blonde? Or what can I do to win my initial target back?
    • I didn't talk much about myself except the DHV stories. Should I reward a girl about my personal stuff (not my exes of course) when she shows me interest?


    FYI: I can provide more detail wherever you guys need...
    Thanks for your time guys, I'll appreciate all comments & suggestions.
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    Default Re: FR: Confusing Twins (Long read, need advice)

    It is hard to say if her pulling back was because of you NEGing to much because I didn't hear everything you said to her. If I were to take a shot at what the problem was I would say her going to the AFC was a test. You should have went and gamed some other girls in front of her instead of getting upset and sitting at the bar alone. Hope that helps.
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    Default Re: FR: Confusing Twins (Long read, need advice)

    Quote Originally Posted by Odlaw View Post
    It is hard to say if her pulling back was because of you NEGing to much because I didn't hear everything you said to her.
    I NEGged about her talkativeness, how she constantly checks her phone and how she constantly seeks attention from the group while someone else is talking. Though, I've always put a smile on my face to indicate that I'm just joking/playing. But by the end of it she was a bit upset maybe because I was actually right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Odlaw View Post
    If I were to take a shot at what the problem was I would say her going to the AFC was a test. You should have went and gamed some other girls in front of her instead of getting upset and sitting at the bar alone.
    I'll definitely take this into account. jealousy is a big factor, indeed. Maybe that'd catch her attention.
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