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    Default New to Sarging. some short FR's

    A little introduction. I was into the game YEARS ago. did a lot of soul searching and other AFC shit. haven't been laid in 8 years... ouch. oh well I've met much worse.

    getting back into it. right now I'm into a guy's method, he's called Magic. His stuff is very contradictory to a lot of PUA material. His method is basically Kino, cocky funny (for lack of a better term and he endorses opening with self depricating humor). and he endorses COMPLIMENTS. His reasoning is that negs are trying to bring a girl down to your level, you don't have High Value. so compliments,(if done right) brings her up to your high value level. I think it's just his strong frame that lets him get away with this.I dunno I guess his style really reflects my personality. Definitely relate to his early days. Every time i hear him it is like a light switch going off in my head. Even just listning to him improves my game. I've been noticing tons more IOI's and PAIMAI's. I've had girls open me. I Definitely KNOW some women find me attractive. But somewhere along the line I am fucking up. either not escalating enough, too early or just doing SOMETHING wrong. I also like Magic's straight up NO BS approach. If anyone has been experimenting with his style please let me know your thoughts.

    on with it:

    Last friday. went to a sport's bar with a separate section with dueling piano's. basically put myself in a good move. Drank maybe too much. around 11 I leave because I know the small area with clubs only a few blocks away. a 3 set is walking past me in a park, it's dark so i decide to scare them. i say,"Here comes trouble." or something. they just kept walking.

    I get to the venue. and I have major aa. I look around the club and spot a cougar set. I approach them way later asking them to dance but they say no. I am on the dancfloor and can't dance worth shit. a group of young HB's dances close to me. The blond in the gourp i recognise from the sports bar last week, she was eyeing me, but too many people were in the way. M was on her nametag. I open them just basically yelling. "you guys are fucking awesome" or something like that. the blond is trying to get closer to me, and she is smiling. but her friends pull her away. I later spot her by herself at a nother club across the street. she walks past and looks into my eyes but dissapears into the crowd before i can re open her. She didn't look happy BTW, the look she gave me was kind of sad really.

    Went up to as group of people dancing and asked one of the girls if she wants to dance. she said no she's with that guy.

    Back at the first place. An older woman asks me for a light. I take it as an IOI. Give her a light and open with Magic's handshake. She says she doesn't know any special handshakes and I say that I just enjoy touching her so i was holding it a little longer. She grabs my hand again, and starts rubbing my shoulders. just talking BS. She starts talking about her pussy or something. but it turns out she's married and her husband is inside. I'm kind of wierded out, but continue with KINO. she is putting her arm around me a lot. She says she lives in the country. In my mind, the logistics are terrible. Don't have a car so can't drive out. She has a husband at the bar. I'm with her group now and we go inside. she stops kino. but is eye fucking me the entire time. I eventually leave,the set not getting much energy from the rest.

    Go outside for a smoke. I am staring at some girl up and down. her friend turns around and says "what are you fucking looking at?"

    She was wearing that grumpy cat shirt and I said, "I was looking at that shirt it's fucking awesome." Her face brightens and is like "fuck yeah". Her bitch friend literally Runs inside! I talk to the girl for a while but I forget to Kino. thinking back i could have done a high five and holding onto her hand for a bit. SHe says i can look at her all I want lol. I talk to her and her other friends drag her inside. I really need to handle group dynamics better, maybe should have complimented the friend too IDK.

    so basically that was it from that night. I wasn't getting much EC from many people

    my game needs: more escalation, better group dynamics. Approach more people. oh and a fucking car.

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    Default Re: New to Sarging. some short FR's

    It seems like you have some general elements down. Not giving a shit is one of them lol. But there doesn't seem to be any direction to your madness.

    You need a game plan. A way of telling where you are with the woman and where you want to steer it. Just throwing bait out without knowing what to do once you reel them in will cause you to fail.

    - You throw some shit out to get her attention
    - Then you conversate and see if she bites further
    - Try to remember and Kino
    - Then what?.....

    How do you progress to the number. How do you bring her HOME!?

    It's ok to be laid back, throw out some game and see what happens. But you'll do better, and go further, if you actually have a solid game plan with direction and push.

    That's why I still refer to Mysteries model. Or in Magic Bullets: The emotional progression ladder. It'll let you know which stage you are in the interaction and where to go to next. How to tell if she's attracted. When to start building comfort. How and when to qualify her. Where to Isolate her. It's all planned. (Not too much mind you. Just a general sense) So look into that and I think it may help.
    "All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth."

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    Default Re: New to Sarging. some short FR's

    Quote Originally Posted by BatMan View Post
    It seems like you have some general elements down. Not giving a sh1t is one of them lol. But there doesn't seem to be any direction to your madness.

    You need a game plan. A way of telling where you are with the woman and where you want to steer it. Just throwing bait out without knowing what to do once you reel them in will cause you to fail.

    - You throw some sh1t out to get her attention
    - Then you conversate and see if she bites further
    - Try to remember and Kino
    - Then what?.....

    How do you progress to the number. How do you bring her HOME!?

    It's ok to be laid back, throw out some game and see what happens. But you'll do better, and go further, if you actually have a solid game plan with direction and push.

    That's why I still refer to Mysteries model. Or in Magic Bullets: The emotional progression ladder. It'll let you know which stage you are in the interaction and where to go to next. How to tell if she's attracted. When to start building comfort. How and when to qualify her. Where to Isolate her. It's all planned. (Not too much mind you. Just a general sense) So look into that and I think it may help.

    I agree with BatMan you are kinda all over the map and need to harness your skills more like cyclops and laser in rather than just busting everything up in sight with the first inclination that crosses your mind. You sound kinda like you are only half-trying need to close more mate and get numbers, hook ups, etc.

    This is probably because you are new to sarging but it happened to me too. You need to get a feel of the game first before you can go all on out on some broads. I still don't got it down yet after 1 year but I have improved greatly from my 1st couple of sets. Though I have learned this last year despite what the critics say to put more time investment into these women because it has yielded greater returns on validation, N-closes, and overall attraction. Again I am all about making things uncoventional because that is what works for me.


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