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    Quote Originally Posted by Fakhry View Post
    thank you GUNSNGLORY that perfectly made sense...but as they all say..you cant cook that perfect meal without knowing the ingredients to use and when to use em lol
    how exactly do i show her that i have other women waiting on the line...and what do i do when she keeps calling or texting everyday? do i continue to communicate or stop her from calling everyday? and when she doesnt call for like 2days should i call her?
    also shes leaving the country for good in bout 4 weeks...so i dont need anything serious with her..im sure she doesnt with me..maybe she just wants to have fun :P
    she also lives really close to me..bout a 5-10minute drive..
    i dont wanna take my time..cus 4weeks is quite short...i wanna have A LOT of fun..the most i can have before she leaves.. what would YOU do??

    No problem man. Let me break it down for you in terms of the questions you asked:

    Quote Originally Posted by Fakhry View Post
    how exactly do i show her that i have other women waiting on the line
    First of all, you should be dating and hanging out with other women already. If you aren't start working on that. However, perception is reality. You can create a lot of that feel by casually mentioning your activities of the day, and various things you did with other friends, especially female friends. These events don't necessarily have to be real. Just don't do it too often so that it appears unnatural or like you are forcing the information. If she asks who the girl was, tell her that she shouldn't be so nosey (in a joking manner). That will raise your value a lot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fakhry View Post
    what do i do when she keeps calling or texting everyday?
    First have fun with her. There are several great threads on texting on this forum. Some of them I have contributed to among others. There are several things you need to be aware of with texting. First, don't get caught being the "text buddy". Women, in particular, like to have friends whom they text all the time when they get bored. They often flirt a lot with these guys, but they don't sleep with them. Your use of txting should be three-fold, to build comfort, to sexually escalate, and to get real meet-ups. Building comfort is easy. You just talk about random stuff and have entertaining conversations, however this is how you get caught as a text-buddy if you do it too much. Sexual escalation is the biggest use of texting but it takes some practice. You have to learn how to use sexual inuendo's and such to pull her in while not being too threatening (see some of the other threads on texting). Getting a meeting is pretty easy as well. During your comfort building you should discover mutual interests (you may already know of some), or you might just lead the conversation to the fact that you want to hang out. Make the hang-outs casual to begin with. Whatever the case, you want to find reasons why you guys should meet. One last caveat: Women use texting as a conversation tool. Guys use texting to communicate something. Don't be too direct about asking to meet, or she will resist. You want that to be your goal, but don't broach that topic without first texting back and forth for a bit as a general rule.

    Finally, recognize that you have a life. If she texts you, it doesn't mean you have to respond right away, or ever. In fact, I suggest that you semi regularly, text her to tell her you can't talk because you are going out with friends or whatever when she contacts you, even if that isn't the case. That will give you higher value. You don't want to be available at her every beck and call. The same goes for real life meetings.

    Since she seems to be really into you, and you have limited time her is some direct advice for this girl:

    I would always be too busy to talk to her for two days in a row. Every time she texts or calls you, make up some reason why you can't hang out. Then, on the third day apologize for being so busy, and tell her that you really want to hang out, and that you guys should go grab dinner and talk. Tell her to come over to your place, so that you can talk one car, and because you know of a good food place somewhere near by. When she arrives, meet her at the door and go for food. Pretty early on, start qualifying her. See my thread on AFC Adam's bootcamp review, for some specific qualification advice. Start high-fiving and hugging her, if you don't already have that much physical rapport built up. I suggest while you eat that you start talking about sex at some point. Easiest way is to ask her how soon is too soon to start talking about sex with girls you know. Most girls will say pretty soon (they don't want to seem like prudes), then you can be pretty direct with them because they just gave permission. Some guys go as direct as, "So then, what's your favorite position." Have fun with it, and you can make it even more sexual, by replying the opposite of what they say. So if they say they like it doggie style with hair pulling, you can say something like, "So you mean you don't like it when a guy slowly starts undressing you while he tenderly kisses down your neck, then lets his hands trace small circles up your back..." You can get her totally turned on without really putting yourself at risk.

    Once you finish eating and you have her getting pretty mentally turned on, take her back to your place to get her car (remember it should be close). Keep the physical rapport going on the way back. Once you get her back. Invite her in to show her your place. If she has already seen your place, invite her in to see something specific, or to hear a certain song. Once she is in the house, your goal is to transition to something else so she forgets why she is there, and then start physically escalating again. At this point she should pretty much have subconsciously made the decision to sleep with you. You just have to keep the physical escalation going.

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    Thanks A LOT, this will definitely help.

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    Hey guys,

    Something else has been bothering me, I seem to get good first impressions with new girls I meet(most of them through facebook though), they find me interesting and funny and cool I guess, and I always think I am on the right track, but then when we talk I never seem to be able to tell if she's interested, if she's thinking of me like boyfriend material etc... Im not sure how to start flirting..I dont wanna start trying to flirt only to see her not flirt back and me feeling bad or thinking whats wrong.
    For example..there was this girl I met through facebook a few months ago...i could tell she enjoyed talking to me...even when i did the cube game for her she called me her favourite person for the day lol..but then when our mutual friends ask her if she likes anyone she always says no(we are in the same social circle). Then one of my friends goes over one time and tells her he likes her...and she gets interested and now they are together...im not sure what i did wrong..maybe i didnt let her know i wanted to do her..or was interested at all...how do i show im available and/or likeable(she will definetly want me if i told her i liked her 1st...but thats not how its done...i dont wanna get used to it..i wanna find a way to let her know of my intentions the RIGHT WAY like all professional PUA's)
    Most girls say im hard to figure out and im mysterious..its a good thing..but maybe im overdoing it...maybe im making them feel like they have no chance with me and im not interested at all(one girl once said she doesnt think I could ever like her...was shocked..i had no idea what to say)
    Im not sure what to do guys...my personality and evrything is set...if we like each other and know...i can take over...its just the starting up..advice guys please????

    Also...yesterday while online chatting with another girl...she asked me to get her horny...i tried but didnt know how to...cus she put me on the spot, what do i do when a girl asks to make her horny when you cant touch her?(i found a way to get myself out of the ''spotlight'' and make her horny at the end of the day though..she so wanted to fark me lool ;D )...but i wanna hear what you guys have to say about that...
    btw..she has a bf...and says she loves him...but she keeps wanting to talk to me... she said that when/if shes ever single again i better be around(i told her i love giving head...iv told 2 girls i love giving head...and they got turned on lol...hmmm)...i know if i get the chance to give her id probs fark her aswell lol, but problem is she keeps saying her bf her bf her bf..and how she doesnt wanna hurt him, while she was horny and we were talking REALLY DIRTY ...she said she wanted me to do her lol, maybe If i can get her horny when we are together she could forget bout her bf?

    This is a long post with a lot of questions lol..sorry...i have one other problem:
    girl is a friend..youve known her for a few weeks...shes in your social circle...she probably does find you attractive...but then one day you tell her your with another girl..and maybe that triggers something..but its not like she ever really showed that much interest..so maybe she gets upset...then she stops talking to you...or if she does she does talk..it aint polite and friendly anymore...maybe even when you comment on her pic...she could even call you stuff like a retard or a fool..........and shes wayyyy younger than you..so thats like disrespecting and theres no way you could go down to her level to actually try and sort it out by talking(right?)...if she was ya mate or older maybe.....she keeps embarassing you anytime you talk to her or stuff like that.....not like shes fighting with you but she deff maybe doesnt care anymore...for the sake of not being seen being talked to like a little whimp from such a little girl in front of your friends....i wanna do something bout it, but i thought id ask you guys 1st for any advice and tips before i make my move!??(its not like i can ignore her...shes like everywhere my friends are...and i wanna show her i aint nobody she can just talk to anyhow she wants)..please help?!
    Last edited by Fakhry; 07-07-2010 at 07:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fakhry View Post
    Hey guys,

    Something else has been bothering me, I seem to get good first impressions with new girls I meet(most of them through facebook though), they find me interesting and funny and cool I guess, and I always think I am on the right track, but then when we talk I never seem to be able to tell if she's interested, if she's thinking of me like boyfriend material etc... Im not sure how to start flirting..I dont wanna start trying to flirt only to see her not flirt back and me feeling bad or thinking whats wrong.
    For example..there was this girl I met through facebook a few months ago...i could tell she enjoyed talking to me...even when i did the cube game for her she called me her favourite person for the day lol..but then when our mutual friends ask her if she likes anyone she always says no(we are in the same social circle). Then one of my friends goes over one time and tells her he likes her...and she gets interested and now they are together...im not sure what i did wrong..maybe i didnt let her know i wanted to do her..or was interested at all...how do i show im available and/or likeable(she will definetly want me if i told her i liked her 1st...but thats not how its done...i dont wanna get used to it..i wanna find a way to let her know of my intentions the RIGHT WAY like all professional PUA's)
    First of all, you're a lucky bastard. Sounds like you probably are good looking and are a bit of a natural! That means you're one of the lucky few. As to answer you question, there is no right way to pick-up a girl. There are a lot of wrong ways. If something works for you, then you should use it, unless it in turn teaches you a bad habit which makes it harder for you to pick-up more women that you like. PUA Artists don't generally tell a girl they are in to them, but there are exceptions. If a girl is really in to you, then it is perfectly acceptable to be very direct with them. In fact PUA's call that a direct opener. Furthermore, they way you "tell" a girl you are into her, is through physical touch. If she is really into you, you Kino escalate very quickly. If she's ready to fuck you, but you don't want to go the direct route, then quickly build up to the kiss. Then back off a bit and this will build sexual tension. When she really comes on to you, suggest that you move to a quieter place, then sexually escalate to sex. You never have to tell her that you like her, it will be implied by your physical interaction.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fakhry View Post
    Most girls say im hard to figure out and im mysterious..its a good thing..but maybe im overdoing it...maybe im making them feel like they have no chance with me and im not interested at all(one girl once said she doesnt think I could ever like her...was shocked..i had no idea what to say)
    Im not sure what to do guys...my personality and evrything is set...if we like each other and know...i can take over...its just the starting up..advice guys please????
    First of all, you're obviously doing something right, if women come and open you. It sounds like you are trying too hard. Just relax. If you have girls who are getting in to you, but then losing interest, it means one of a couple things:

    1) You may not be physically escalating. (This one is pretty obvious for you to figure out)
    2) You may not be moving from comfort and breaking rapport to qualification. (Again, this should be pretty straight-forwad to figure out. If you don't understand these concepts, just ask about them, and I'll be more than happy to help you out.)
    3) You are not creating sexual tension. (This is kind of an over-arching concept that applies to the previous two. If you want to talk about this let me know. I don't have time to type about it right now, but I will be more than happy to spend some time on it later if it would be helpful.)


    Quote Originally Posted by Fakhry View Post
    Also...yesterday while online chatting with another girl...she asked me to get her horny...i tried but didnt know how to...cus she put me on the spot, what do i do when a girl asks to make her horny when you cant touch her?(i found a way to get myself out of the ''spotlight'' and make her horny at the end of the day though..she so wanted to fark me lool ;D )...but i wanna hear what you guys have to say about that...
    btw..she has a bf...and says she loves him...but she keeps wanting to talk to me... she said that when/if shes ever single again i better be around(i told her i love giving head...iv told 2 girls i love giving head...and they got turned on lol...hmmm)...i know if i get the chance to give her id probs fark her aswell lol, but problem is she keeps saying her bf her bf her bf..and how she doesnt wanna hurt him, while she was horny and we were talking REALLY DIRTY ...she said she wanted me to do her lol, maybe If i can get her horny when we are together she could forget bout her bf?
    Don't be a tool for her. What I mean is, you need to get the Alpha male mentality. If she wants a one-way relationship, she can get a vibrator. Next time she pulls something like that, tell her that you don't work for free, but you are more than happy to help her with that if she comes over. Also, tell her that you have plenty of other options. If she wants to break up with her boyfriend, she knows where you live, otherwise, she needs to find her own counselor. She probably would have come over in a heart beat, but you came off as needy and over accommodating by playing her game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fakhry View Post
    This is a long post with a lot of questions lol..sorry...i have one other problem:
    girl is a friend..youve known her for a few weeks...shes in your social circle...she probably does find you attractive...but then one day you tell her your with another girl..and maybe that triggers something..but its not like she ever really showed that much interest..so maybe she gets upset...then she stops talking to you...or if she does she does talk..it aint polite and friendly anymore...maybe even when you comment on her pic...she could even call you stuff like a retard or a fool..........and shes wayyyy younger than you..so thats like disrespecting and theres no way you could go down to her level to actually try and sort it out by talking(right?)...if she was ya mate or older maybe.....she keeps embarassing you anytime you talk to her or stuff like that.....not like shes fighting with you but she deff maybe doesnt care anymore...for the sake of not being seen being talked to like a little whimp from such a little girl in front of your friends....i wanna do something bout it, but i thought id ask you guys 1st for any advice and tips before i make my move!??(its not like i can ignore her...shes like everywhere my friends are...and i wanna show her i aint nobody she can just talk to anyhow she wants)..please help?!
    Once again, don't put up with it. Just ignore her, unless she gets really in your face, then straight up tell her that you don't need her crap. Likely she really likes you and it is her way of flirting. Don't let her embarrass you. Just take it good naturedly and throw it back at her. If she really crosses the line, then call her on it. Women find that very attractive when a man can take a joke, but also is assertive and doesn't let people walk on them.

    The other option is that she may not like you. In that case, you don't need that kind of abuse. Call her on her crap, and ignore her unless you would have to go out of your way to avoid her. There is no reason to ever put up with it.

    Hope that helps dude.

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    Lol, yeah I get complimented a lot on my looks :P
    And I guess I am a bit of a natural...but how does that make me lucky...people still learn this stuff and make being a natural not seem so special no more


    hmmmmm.... "2) You may not be moving from comfort and breaking rapport to qualification. (Again, this should be pretty straight-forwad to figure out. If you don't understand these concepts, just ask about them, and I'll be more than happy to help you out.)
    3) You are not creating sexual Tension. (This is kind of an over-arching concept that applies to the previous two. If you want to talk about this let me know. I don't have time to type about it right now, but I will be more than happy to spend some time on it later if it would be helpful.)"


    YES PLEASE!


    Thanks though, you've given me some things to think about and work one now! (thumbs up*), looking forward to hearing from you once more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fakhry View Post
    Lol, yeah I get complimented a lot on my looks :P
    And I guess I am a bit of a natural...but how does that make me lucky...people still learn this stuff and make being a natural not seem so special no more
    Well being good looking just means you don't have to work quite so hard, but it is very mature of you to realize that natural ability and looks will only get you so far. You're a cut above most naturals, in that you want to improve instead of being happy with just the little bit better than average that you do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fakhry View Post
    hmmmmm.... "2) You may not be moving from comfort and breaking rapport to qualification. (Again, this should be pretty straight-forwad to figure out. If you don't understand these concepts, just ask about them, and I'll be more than happy to help you out.)
    3) You are not creating sexual tension. (This is kind of an over-arching concept that applies to the previous two. If you want to talk about this let me know. I don't have time to type about it right now, but I will be more than happy to spend some time on it later if it would be helpful.)"


    YES PLEASE!


    Thanks though, you've given me some things to think about and work one now! (thumbs up*), looking forward to hearing from you once more!
    I'll try to cover each of these in detail, then explain how you can know if you aren't dealing with the problem:

    1) You may not be physically escalating:
    Physical Escalation generally starts out as rewards for her interest and involvement. Whenever she puts extra thought into a reply, she tells you something interesting about herself, gives an unconscious ioi, or she qualifies herself you should physically escalate. Start with high-fives, then move to side hugs, the full on hugs, then kisses, hand holding ect. This is pretty fluid and you can change it up and jump around depending on how receptive she is. In general, you move back a little if she objects, stay about the same if she is a little uncomfortable but follows through, or move forward if she is really comfortable/coming on to you.
    The times that you don't want to escalate are:
    a) When doing so will make it awkward because of her friends or other people.
    b) She flirts with you in an obvious attempt to get attention (this is different than when she unconsciously shows attraction or when you have built enough attraction that you are basically ready for sex).
    c) You just escalated and it would be weird to escalate immediately.

    Signs that you are not Kino escalating:
    a) She is interested in you and flirting in you, but it still feels awkward to touch her (means you haven't been escalating all along).
    b) She is really in to you, but then suddenly starts losing interest when you have said nothing to provoke the change.
    c) She awkwardly breaks off after everything went really well, and you still haven't got at least a hug in.

    2) Comfort and Breaking Rapport:
    This potential problem should really have been broken down further. If you only build comfort, but never break rapport, you will end up in the friends zone. Since you are attractive you are uniquely susceptible to this problem. Because of your attractive nature, women will come on to you already primed for breaking rapport and early qualification. If you are not careful, you will take this early attraction for granted and just start building comfort. Then when the attraction will suddenly die, you will be left frustrated, wondering what is happening. What is happening is the women are already interested in you, but they are getting frustrated because you aren't flirting or qualifying them, and they will feel that you aren't interested in them except as friends. One way to break rapport is to neg or push-pull the girl. The best of the two options in a push-pull. In a push-pull you say something kinda off or back handed, but then say something nice to counter-act the bad stuff. This will break the comfort you have built, and make them subconsciously realize the bond that you are forming and want that warm comfort back. An example of a push-pull is something like: "Oh my god! I just realized you have a tendency to speak really fast! (pause) I like a girl who's not afraid to speak her mind." More info on this topic here (http://www.puaforums.com/how-pick-up...l-insults.html). The other way to break rapport is through Kino Escalation. High-fives are the easiest. You can also teach her new ways of fist-bumping and stuff like that. Often, after I have high-fived a girl a couple times, I will tell her that normal high-fives are boring then show her the way "my friends and I do it" and make up something complicated. Then, I can bag on her til she gets it right and finally give her a hug when she does get it right. It is a way to seriously kino escalate really quickly while being non-threatening and breaking up the routine.

    Signs that you are not Breaking Rapport:
    You have pleasant conversation, but her attraction level never, or barely increase during your conversation.

    You will never get past a mild and light flirtiness if you don't move to qualification. Qualification is done once you have reached the point where you have some comfortable kino going on, and the conversation is now flowing easily (and has been flowing easily for a couple of topics). Basically, you don't feel like strangers anymore to each other and you are both comfortable touching. This can be anywhere from 10 seconds or less in extreme circumstances to 15 or 20 minutes into the conversation (sometimes longer). Qualification is the turning point in a pick-up where you force the girl to really start justifying why she is good enough for you. Why does she do this? Partially it is the psychological pressure you create and put on her, and part of it is the fact that she has now invested in the comfort and rapport that you have built, and she doesn't want to lose that. This is an excellent time to start working sexually suggestive kino in as rewards for her successful qualifications. One thing to remember about all pick-ups is that once you "pass" a stage, you never really leave it completely. Just because you are qualifying doesn't mean that you stop building comfort then breaking rapport. You continue that, but you keep coming back and qualifying her at this stage. I think I wrote a pretty good description of how to qualify someone here (it's about half way down in the review): (http://www.puaforums.com/pickup-arti...mp-review.html)

    Signs that you are not Qualifying:
    You build some attraction past her initial interest level, but then you peak at a point that is just light and flirty. Eventually you either stay at this point, or her attraction drops off as she gets frustrated that things are staying so shallow.

    3) Sexual Tension:
    If you do all the above things right, you will automatically build sexual tension, though most of it will come through the process of kino escalation. If you do all the above stuff right you can and will get laid without ever having to work specifically on sexual tension. However, there are much better ways to build sexual tension and help yourself out. Sexual tension is like bringing someone almost to orgasm, then backing off a bit, like building comfort then shattering that comfort, or like getting an addiction, but then removing the drug. In all those examples, you are taking something that is very pleasurable, then removing it for an excruciating period of time. When that happens the mind immediately become conscious of how much it needs/wants something. This is the concept of sexual tension. Here is something I wrote in the past. Also check the immediately following post by Bill, he has some good stuff in there (http://www.puaforums.com/how-pick-up....html#post6791)

    Signs you are not producing enough Sexual Tension:
    Generally it will mean that you will have the girl started on a nice long relationship path, where you would eventually be able to sleep with her, and/or have a girlfriend relationship, but you aren't able to close things early on. It also means that you will find that she resists attempts to kino escalate very quickly, but she still seems to be interested in you.


    Hope that helps. As always, post more questions, and/or pm me.

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    nice one mate
    appreciated!

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    yo...i got a little story and wanted to see if what you guys think about it


    There's this girl that my friend introduced me to through facebook/msn/skype, we have never seen before but she's a bad girl, what he told me was that she's really sluttyyyyyyyyyyyy so i though to myself maybe being a bit more direct would be ok?!
    I talked dirty to her over the internet a couple of times, but there she is trying to act all innocent and wasting my time, so i get tired of her on and off crap about her accusing me some times of being a ''sex freak'' and at times playing along, i practically stopped talking to her as much as i used to(for God's sake she's not even in the same country as i am now!!!!! but she's coming over in a few months..i am/was just getting her warmed up!)
    Anyways............. ..........heres what happened when i noticed her online at 4am in the morning which was like 30mins ago:

    Me: Hey...your up late
    Wassup??
    Her: Yeah i know..been doing stuff
    What you been up to thats kept you awake?
    Me: Skype's a bitch
    Her: lol
    do me now!
    Me: huh?
    sounds dirty
    :P
    Her: hehe yeah...im ready to talk dirty now!




    thats what caught my attention....im READY to talk dirty now......FARKKK...sh e must have taken me for granted in that sort of way, well i know id still FARK her life when she comes but im not showing any Alpha Male stuff here...but this is what i said:

    Me: Sorry babe...i dont work like that, but ill be more than happy to help you when we see some day
    Going to bed now
    Later loser

    (i call all the girls i talk with a ''loser'' ...tease ;D)







    So...what do you guys think? Was that good? Any thoughts?

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    Oh and yeah i forgot to ask, have any of you guys heard of a PUA called NICK SHANE???? What you think about him? Cus i checked out his stuff and his pretty good, to be honest i love the way he does his stuff..he's personality rocks!!

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    hehe...the next time i came online she immedietly im'd me asking if ''i have her time now'' looool
    guess it worked well :P


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