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    Your thinking like an AFC again.

    An AFC waits for the perfect moment or place to kiss a girl.

    An AFC asks permission either verbally or physically to kiss the girl.

    An AFC waits for the close of the date, and an awkward pause to make his move.

    A PUA kisses the girl when he wants to.

    You escalate kino at where ever you are hanging out, and when she gives you some ioi's you are ready to kiss her.

    There is something called "Building Sexual Tension" that is important to understand.
    When you have built enough attraction, you will both be wanting to go for the kiss. If there was nothing preventing you, and you kissed, the attraction would abate somewhat. You can use the fact that you are with friends and such to your advantage. When you start giving each other looks and such, whisper in her ear, "I'd kiss you right now, but it is too bad that all these people are watching." Then give her a little wink. The attraction will spike through the roof. After you and all your friends have hung out for awhile, and your getting ready to go, tell your friends goodbye and walk her to the car. If you think you can, try to get her to transition to some place else with you (Isolation), or if not, you should already have the framework laid, just grab her arm and say something like, "Hey". When she turns to you, hold her gaze for a second. Then reach up and sweep the hair from her face (The universal sign that you are going for a kiss, so you don't startle her), then slowly lean in and kiss her). AFTER the kiss is when you mention how much fun you had, not before. If you lead with how you enjoyed hanging out with her, blah blah, it sounds like you are trying to butter her up so that she will LET you kiss her.

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    Thanks for the tip. I'll definitely keep it in mind for this Saturday.

    Update

    Girl A
    Girl D
    Girl E (new comer)

    ** note1: Girl D and E are both in Chinese class
    ** note2: Guys! I got the car! xD


    Girl A:
    So things with girl A resumed pretty well today. She went on and on about Halloween and the Japanese Social event. She told me she met 2 new friends there and how there's this freaky guy that (I suppose) wanted to court her but was totally non-alpha (she was freaked out by him). I practiced on how to present the saturday event to her, but didn't really go with the script when I said it. I said something like

    Me: My friend and I were talking and we agreed that things have been boring lately so I suggested bowling this Saturday. He was excited and so I'm going to bring a few friends along as well. Do you want to come?

    Girl A: well, sure. what time is it?

    Me: Saturday, 4 pm?

    Girl A: ok.

    She seems eager even though I've kinda screwed up lol... *thumbs up*

    Then She says "I'll bring my 2 friends along too". I said "Great! More fun! My friend would be pleased to meet them *winks*".

    Right now it's starting to meet the criteria that gunsnglory had mentioned so I see this as so far so good. She crossed her legs a few times today but her legs were pointing towards me and I saw mirroring of the way I sat along with a few hair brushes. I've seemed to rebuilt attraction. During this entire invite, she did not mention anything about her bf so I'm guessing if I really wanted to take her, it won't be that difficult. However, I feel that there isn't much sexual tension being built right now between us and I can't seem to escalate the Kino any further than I already have at this point. She doesn't seem to be reacting much (no kino from her yet). What are my odds at this point if I want to accelerate things for Saturday?

    Girl D:

    She asked to borrow my Chinese text and workbook to photocopy. I didn't mind, after all, it would bring me up to being in good terms with her (I initially accidently DLVed myself when I first practiced the PUA stuff with her). In addition to giving me back my books she brought me a pretzel covered in crushed m&ms and on the pkg it says "Handmade chocolate pretzels". I smiled at her and said "thanks". However, one weird thing is she didn't decide to sit next to me but went back to the usual far back of the classroom. I guess it wouldn't look natural if she did.

    Girl E:

    She's a new challenger. I would say she's an HB 7. She at first didn't quite notice me even though she sat next to me. When the teacher told us to engage in conversations, that's when she first saw me as alpha. I helped her though the conversations and we chatted a little. She would smile at me when she sees me coming to class although I haven't really attempted to talk to her and built rapport yet. She's definitely a good target to practice on.


    Question for any PUAs out there:

    If Girl A's friends are constantly beside her even up to the point where they enter the subway station, what can I do to Isolate her so I can do the * close? I'm worried that I won't be able to isolate her.
    Last edited by Mystery_wannabe; 11-03-2009 at 12:13 PM.

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    Sorry, I didn't respond sooner, but I have been moving, and out of internets.

    First, good work on A! I hope it went well. She mentioned the Japanese thing probably, as another hint that she is cool with Asian people.

    To the question at the end of your post. There are friends who will attempt to cockblock just because. However, that is rarely the case. Generally the only way to deal with them easily, is with a wingman.

    If the girl is into you, she won't raise flags with her friends. Therefore, she will generally attempt to make it easy for you to Isolate her. First it will be via conversation. Then, if that goes well, she will be open to going with you to get a drink, or something. You will still have to work, but you should be able to progressive isolate her further. If her friends won't allow you to isolate her, but she is into you, or the situation won't allow it, just keep the flirting going, by little looks, or touches. Then, at the first opportunity, isolate her more physically. You can volunteer to go with her, to her car, drive her home, or take her somewhere else after bowling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunsnglory View Post
    Sorry, I didn't respond sooner, but I have been moving, and out of internets.

    First, good work on A! I hope it went well. She mentioned the Japanese thing probably, as another hint that she is cool with Asian people.

    To the question at the end of your post. There are friends who will attempt to cockblock just because. However, that is rarely the case. Generally the only way to deal with them easily, is with a wingman.

    If the girl is into you, she won't raise flags with her friends. Therefore, she will generally attempt to make it easy for you to Isolate her. First it will be via conversation. Then, if that goes well, she will be open to going with you to get a drink, or something. You will still have to work, but you should be able to progressive isolate her further. If her friends won't allow you to isolate her, but she is into you, or the situation won't allow it, just keep the flirting going, by little looks, or touches. Then, at the first opportunity, isolate her more physically. You can volunteer to go with her, to her car, drive her home, or take her somewhere else after bowling.
    Hey, thanks for taking the time to respond! You've been my mentor all this time. The wait is well worth it

    This Saturday, I'm going to bring my friend who has no knowledge about me being in this whole "gaming" business. I personally don't think I am qualified at this point to "teach him" how to game and so if he's going to be my wing man, I'm feeling a bit sketchy if he could perform up to the task at hand. Nevertheless, I'll talk to him about it and ask him to help me out (on his own discretion). Do you think it is necessary that we establish some sort of code so I can call him in to help me out if necessary or will this look like an AFC thing?

    I can definitely try to use the "lets go for a drink" tactic. I'll personally invite her which hints her that I want some more personal time with her and if she shuts me out then I guess it's very clear what her decision is.

    Since I'm finally able to break the barrier and use my parent's car, my world just opened up another fold! This is all very exciting as it's building right to the climax! The suspense is killing me!
    Last edited by Mystery_wannabe; 11-03-2009 at 09:27 PM.

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    First and most important:
    If she rejects your advances, don't give up. That doesn't mean she isn't still gettable. It means you need to slow down try a different tack, and then work on slowly increasing your speed gradually.

    As for your friend winging. I wouldn't worry about doing that. If you really want to bring him in on it, just pre-arrange a signal, and tell him that if you give him the signal, he should attempt to befriend, and otherwise distract the friend or friends that are getting in your way.

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    alright guys update on girl A:

    I messed up today. I don't know why but I couldn't shift myself into PUA mode when I got to class (lack of sleep?). She purposefully ignored me when I entered (Sh1t Test?). There's just something about today that knowing she's there made me nervous. I started DLVing myself when I spoke in class and stared to close in. Girl A caught on quickly and I could feel the attraction is slipping again. I have tomorrow as my last day to pull things together before Saturday.

    Can someone give me an advice on how to regain confidence quickly if I feel that I'm losing it?
    Last edited by Mystery_wannabe; 11-04-2009 at 03:39 PM.

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    Sometimes the best thing to do when you feel out of it, is to just play it extra cool. The girl, if attracted to you, will generally go head over heals to get your attention. Then just tell her that you are having an off day. That way you don't come off looking bad, and she will be trying to make you feel better. Just don't use it for a crutch when you really need to power through your inhibitions.

    I can't remember if I mentioned anchoring in the context of anything other than texting, but it will really help you out. Remember little jokes and things that you establish with her. If you haven't, create a couple of inside jokes, or little games to play with her. It is especially good to do this when you are at the one of your high points of attraction with her. Then, when you see her again, you can use those games to help bring back the previous state of attraction. It saves you a lot of work, and gives you a bit of a mulligan if you really get stuck.

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    We had a little joke about Simpsons where she use the SMRT joke on me. I didn't quite get it at first (I didn't watch that episode) but this could be the thing that will trigger the call back to the instant lunch date that we had together. Thanks for the great tip.

    Update on Girl A:

    I had a bit of time yesterday so I went to work out for an hour. I came back feeling refreshed and knew that everything was going to be alright. As expected everything was great right from the beginning. I entered with high energy, chatted with Decoy and friends. Apparently Decoy has connections to this other girl who sat on the opposing side to us (I noticed that she was sending me IOIs on the first day of class) so playfully told her that she needs to introduce us (although I don't know if she'll ever have a chance to do this naturally). Girl A is playing the same ignore strategy. I kept my cool and laid low. To effect, she kept sending IOIs non-stop (in efforts to get me to look at her like I would normally maybe just once) but after sending IOIs for 90% of the class and I didn't respond, she stopped and kinda gave up. When class finished, she packed a bit quicker than I did so I thought she was just going to leave but she actually stood a side in the classroom on her way out just to wait for me. I carried a smirk on my face and knew I won today's battle 100%! She told me she was only able to get 1 of the 2 Japanese girls to come as the other one didn't show up for their dinner gathering.

    There's a chance the break down of the saturday event would have the following cast:
    - me
    - My unofficial wing-man (I do want to train him once I get better)
    - Girl A
    - J-Girl A
    - My Female friend (decoy)

    This would be a better combination as there will be 1 less distraction to take care of when things need to get a little intimate.

    Now I'm just waiting for the Saturday close!

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    Text Game (Girl A update):

    Hey guys, it turns out the situation just got a whole lot more complicated. Without knowing, I've entered into a text game with Girl A. I need your opinion on what I did good and bad so here's how it started.

    Girl A:Hey, HB_Decoy1 wants to bring 2 friends tomorrow. Is that cool? Enough room in the car?

    Me: Yeah except I have another friend coming tmr and she said she has to sit in my car so would they mind being in my friend's car?

    Girl A: im sure thats fine as long as they have a seat. So ill tell her its ok?

    Me: yep.

    Girl A: Cool. You should be happy theres 3 Japanese girls coming!!!

    Me: : )))

    Me: Have you met them yet?

    Girl A: Only two of them. The third one is new to me :P

    Me: Cool, you guys are coming for dinner after right?

    --------At this point, the convo dies and she no longer msgs back-------

    This kept me thinking, did I mess up by asking about her tmr? Was this a mistake? I thought about this carefully before I sent it. I was given an advice from my co-worker to see if she's free to go for a drink after tmr except I've read here that one of the rules is do not talk to a girl about future plans before the date finishes. I decided not to take his advice and went for asking about the whole group because if she said yes, then I would be able to ask for a drink with her alone after.

    Is her no-reply on purpose to keep me in suspense or is she doing that because I messed up?

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    Probably she just got distracted. However, I think I would have waited til after you guys got together, and then mentioned the drink while hanging out.


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