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    espmma is offline PUA in Training
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    Default FR#2 from espmma

    I appreciate any input and advice that you all can give to me. So, I was at work when a HB7.5 and a HB8(with the biggest rack I have ever seen person to person) come to eat dinner at the restaurant I work at. Luckily, they sit in my section. So, I do the usual spiel get them chips and salsa, they had their IDs out already and I proceeded to say something along the lines of "oh, I see we have some IDs out, are we going to do some drinking tonight?). So, I got their food drink, yada yada while continuing to make small talk with them. When I come back the HB8 asks me if I'm single, I reply "yes, I am" while just having a smile on my face, trying to communicate good body language and such. She tells me that her friend thinks I'm cute and that she looks even better when she's not talking with her clothes off. So from there it was game on. I just continued to joke with them while all the time keeping a slight smirk on my face. I ended up getting the girl's number and told them I'd meet them downtown. So, after I get out of work I end up getting to downtown which is PACKED so I get there a little later. I text the girl telling her where I'm at and such, and I can already tell from her texting that she's drunk. So, I meet up with my wing so that he can take the HB8 and we go to meet them up. When I get to the bar, the girl is SO drunk that the both of them are fighting. I walked up, put my arms around both of them, and they were like oh it's you. But then they continued to fight with one another(super awkward I might add). So they walk away fighting with eachother, so my wing and I say screw it, and end up going to wall st. to see if there's any talent out there. What I didn't know was that my wing who's a pretty big ladies man, has aa. He has solid mid game and closing game but he doesn't open. So, I got a free drinks in him and we started scoping out potential sets. There wasn't a whole lot of talent really, but we see two blond HB6's looking our way, but when I finally get my friend to go and approach with me, they get approached by two douchey lookin' guys. So, we keep scopin' out the area and it's looking bleak. I text the drunk girl and tell her, "well, that was fun." and she tells me to call her. So, I do and she says something inaudible and I tell her just to text me, whcih she ends up not doing(ugh, drunk women.). By this time we see another set, 3 ugly girls, 1 HB5 and a HB6. My friend has enough alcohol in his system by now so we approach and I say "Hey, you guys were definitely looking at us earlier weren't you?". She laughs and I continue, "well if it wasn't us, we can introduce you to the guys next to us if you were looking at them, my wing immediately hits it off with the HB6 and I jump out of the conversation while he does his thing. I then go to the HB5 and ask her, her let me get your opinion on something(awesome line, I learned from reading the game), and asked her if this girl to the left of us looked like Miley Cyrus. so that sparked off conversation, I just kept it light joked with her and I asked if I could pull of the look, while we're hitting it off the cock blocker of the group says, hey, it's time to go. So, she ends up leading them away from us, before we can even ask for a number or escalate. Sigh. Then we ended the night right there. I texted the drunk girl seeing if she was coherent enough to hangout, apparently she wasn't. Idk, I think I'm not going to text her so I don't like Beta, until next weekend will be my deadline I suppose.

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    Default Re: FR#2

    See, I would have stopped at the "well, that was fun." text, even if she texted me back, I would have ignored her. That way sober her would have thought that she blew it... until you text her back a few days later.

    She asked you to call her and you listened... to a drunk girl haha. Then you texted again later on and didn't get a response. Kind of thirsty. Remember dude, she's only drunk for a few hours, so she's going to read these texts again when she's sober and see how much you wanted to hang out with her. Personally, I think you showed too much direct interest.

    Also, there's no such thing as an HB1-6... they're called UGs
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    espmma is offline PUA in Training
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    Default Re: FR#2

    You're right my friend. Luckily enough see texted me the next day, and I told her she owed me, to which she agreed. But, next time I will have to show more indifference.

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    So, I started the night off with a decent buzz so I wouldn't have to spend a profane amount of money downtown. We hit the event and I initially let my aa get to me. I immediately saw some of my wings hit the venue and start putting in their approaches. This is definitely an area that I can work on, I usually start off slow and don't start putting in approaches until later after I've had a good amount to drink. That's another point that I definitely need to work on, is not relying on alcohol for approaching. This is part of the reason why I'm horrendous at day game. Although I do enjoy to socially drink, I need to remember it's fun and not a crutch to rely on to overcome that AA. Well, I started off pretty slow, I'm pretty sure my one wing opened up a set before I did, with an initial comment that didn't go too far. And we were also following some of the other guys around. I wanted to see them in action and I was also letting my AA get a hold of me. I finally did get my initial approach in with a HB8 with a wonder woman costume on. I sat next to her in a empty seat and she was alone. I just said hey is it okay if I sit her, and I sat before she could answer, trying to be cocky funny. That initial conversation sort of died. I need to work on this area of my game the most out of everything, so I tried to pick it up just saying some sh1t about being wonder woman, asking her if she could beat me up, and what not. But the conversation died out again, I didn't want to appear like I was trying, so I ejected. Next time I think I'm going to try and put the awkward part of coming up with topics on her. An idea that I got from this video How to Hold Conversation Like a Man | Nick Sparks. Anyways, after that one fo the wings and I just went around I still wasn't approaching much but then we started going around and I started opening up some sets, and my wing was as well. Again, my biggest problem is holding a conversation after that initial topic. We went back to the Cantina and someone got up from a seat next to a cute 6, So, I sparked up conversation with her. Just asking her what her costume was and what not, my wing was helping out with the conversation too so it wasn't going stale. Her cousin came back(HB8), and I started fluffing the sh1t with her. It just turned out to be an ideal set because she didn't speak much English, so it brought up a good amount of conversation. I started to escalate but saying little things like lightly teasing her about her accent, saying d'aww your accent is so cute, etc. I also asked her if she liked gringos, she didn't really give me a straight response, so I told her that I loved Ecuadorians. Little subtle things like that, that were a bit forward but not overbearing. I then started finding excuses to touch her. Like whenever she said something "shocking" or whatever I could use that would be exciting. I got the idea from gambler, from Richard La Ruina The Formula for Night Game. I also, kept getting closer to her, especially when leaning in to listen to her. I then got my arm around her, but her friend then said, why don't you just ask for her number? I made light of it and said hey I was working on it, just kidding around, having a good humor about it. But, then my wing told me he wanted to go, so, I got her number and then said give me a kiss. And so I got the kiss close and then we ejected. After that it was basically the night we got a few more approaches in, but nothing more mentioning.

    Things I need to work on
    Getting past the initial opener
    Getting my sets in earlier
    Not relying on alcohol as a crutch

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    Default Re: FR#2

    A note on the girl from my work, I tried to run soem texting game on her from Gun's ultimate texting guide, but she kept just giving me generic answers. I teased her about her being hard to hangout with, and I learned she doesn't have a car. So, I told her I'd pick her up sometime this week to which she replied that she'd love to. I texted her back with a specific time(6:03) and location and day and she didn't respond. But later invited me to go support her by coming to the club she was bar tending at that night. I was annoyed so I told her I couldn't make it. Now I don't know what to do with this situation. I'm working on my texting game, it's not my most solid part of my game forsure.


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