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    Default Simple opener F-close

    I was out at the bars late and decided to hone my skills a lil bit, there was an HB8 standing at the bar looking pretty bored so I opened her with the "dont look like your having such a good time" line. She gave a coy smile and I asked how her night was, she said it was ok, but was very vague. In an attempt to gauge her attitude I asked if she thought good looking girls get approached more often than others, she quickly responded "NO!" I asked why not and she promptly let me know that she believed she was not the best liking but not ugly either yet many check her and few say anything. So in an attempt to call her out on her bs I told her she could either keep complaining or do some thing about it. She asked what could she do and I said, "take me out to dinner, a friend chicken dinner to be exact" , she laughed, we got into a little small talk I then told her I had friends waiting on me and asked if she wanted to talk later. I gave her my phone and asked for her contact information and told her id be looking for her later, settling for a Number Close.

    I perused the area a lil more opening sets and getting into The Vibe, as the night was coming to a conclusion I hadn't made any solid connections and couldn't find the Hb8 I had spoken to earlier and decided to head back to my hotel room. Once in I figure I'd shoot a text to the Hb8 in an attempt to keep a connection, I said "sorry I lost you, have a good night" she responded "who's this?" I said, "Im offended, you can forget that chicken dinner." She responded, "oh, sorry, I didn't think you'd call." I told her we both ended the night prematurely, she agreed and said it's too bad she was already home plus she had to be to work early the next morning, I teased her saying it was the weekend and she needed to be a lil more realistic on top of the fact that the few hours she had to rest would make no significant difference, she may as well go all out. I then told her I'd make it easier on her by doing the traveling and all I needed was the address, after a nice suspenseful wait, she texted me the address.

    I get on the road, and throw her addy in the gps, once I was a few minutes out I shot her a text letting her know I was outside. I knock on her door and she opens it in her t-shirt and panties, she takes me by the hand, we walk upstairs to her room, and its history from there.
    I noticed this situation grew from one of the simpler less complex openers, I do like to be a lil eccentric with my approach, but this time the response was immediate and the transitioning was quick. I've had my share of decent turn around in the bars and clubs, but this one was one of the best executions I've had so far. I think I will stick to these types of approaches and hone them a lil more to my style.
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    Default Re: Simple opener F-close

    Nice confident killer instinct! good for you man.

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    Default Re: Simple opener F-close

    You did great to lead to such a well executed f close. Step back and view the whole interaction though. A 5 minute convo and like 5 text lead directly to sex. More times than not it probably won't happen that way, but if you somehow make this consistent please do share. Not trying to hate at all, jut trying to give you a more realistic view. Again, it was a work of art, and masterfully done.

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    Default Re: Simple opener F-close

    Simple opener, smooth transitions, good frame control, unnerving Number Close, great text game, planned logistics, particularly I loved that elimination of potential issues before they became just that. This is a great example of sound game from open to close. If you can do everything like that every time I'm sure you'll have a great close rate.

    Great job.
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    Default Re: Simple opener F-close

    Thanks, the shorter routines with a time limit usually allow me to filter the bs and get straight into her vibe. I do base most of my approaches on body language and vibes and I'm a true believer in the fact that most HB8 and up don't get approached much because they are intimidating, I mean her look was kinda stuck up and an AFC would've definetly passed on her. I also try to give off that "convince me you're worth it" vibe by being cockyabd of putting at times. I will move forward with this and keep you guys posted on the progress.
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    Default Re: Simple opener F-close

    I like your style and can't wait to see the results. I too may start trying this out and seeing how it works in field. I do believe HB8s and above do get approached, but not in an appropriate manner. I believe it's more snarky remarks from AFC's then actual approaches.

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    Default Re: Simple opener F-close

    Those are the vibes you need to give, I do the same thing. One thing I could recommend that would fit well with that situation is using a time bridge when you text her, esp when you text her the same day. Not saying that you can't do without it but it's another aspect of game you can try out that fits your style.

    It sounds like we both have the same style and there's a few little things like that that I like to play around with that you'd probably enjoy as well
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    Default Re: Simple opener F-close

    And yeah I share the same thoughts on the subject, and they really don't. Actually I'm going to make that my opener Friday night. Anyways it is true and I think that they're typically more down to earth because of it.
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    Default Re: Simple opener F-close

    I need to look more into this time bridge, I had a technique that dealt with Time Distortion that allowed more rapport in a shorter time period. I would usually suggest time is an uncontrollable asset and we waste allot of it "in process" I would then go into examples of how time affects our judgement due to the inability to manage it therefore allowing many opportunities to pass us by. One of my favorite examples is Milk expiration, I'd explain how there's a limited amount of time to consume it before its completely useless and a wasted investment, but I'd add a few triggers that relate it to the true essence of spontaneity, which many women claim they have. Lol, I love when they say that because I can tease and challenge them about not being truly spontaneous with a set of questions and destroying their answers.

    Its a lil complex, but Im analytical and it works for me most of the time, check out my Time distortion F-close for more detail, Im actually still working on that routine.
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    Default Re: Simple opener F-close

    Basically yeah it's a tool of Time Distortion I guess you could say. I just try to think of different excuses to leave and come back using a time bridge when I arrive. It's quick, easy, hard forget to use it, and I figure it won't hurt anything so I might as well
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