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    Headed downtown for dranksgiving...or whatever they called the day before thanksgiving drinking thing.

    FR #11 Nightgame

    Jeezuz christ this was one cold ass night. And my nutz took a bit to warm up.
    Started off by entering a low key bar. After about 5 minutes of stagnation decided to approach a 2 set, a HB8 and a 6.

    Me: Hey, how's your night going?
    Them: Good, how about your's?
    Me: Freaking awesome!! You guys look interesting, I'm going to talk to you.
    Them: (laughing) haha, okay.
    Me: Are you guys celebrating something?
    Them: Thanksgiving!
    Me: Hell yeah. I just wanted an excuse to drink. I can't wait to eat tomorrow, my god.
    Them: (laugh)
    *somebody leaves their seat more near to the bar*
    Them: We should go grab those seats
    MeWHY DID I DO THIS?!) Haha, alright. Well, I gotta get back to my friends anyways, have a good night.

    There was only one more set in the room. A HB8 and a UG. My wing and I approached. I can't quite remember the specifics of this conversation. But, we were joking around a lot, the HB8 was pretty sexual, and straight forward. (yep, turned me on) We fluffed the shit for awhile, I tried to incorporate a bit of kino, touched the HB twice lightly on the arm, when making a point, etc. But, we stayed in the set way too long, and I didn't escalate more when I should have. Tried to Number Close at the end, she then showed me her wedding ring. (sigh) I feel like I could've got the F close from this girl(she was only in town for the a day). But at the same time my morality would've been hurt. Ah well.

    After this, plenty of blowouts. Tried to wing my boy, as he was talking to her friend.
    Me: Whatsup, are you having a good night?
    Her: (quietly) yeah.
    Me: Psh, you need more energy than that. You've gotta be like F- yeah!!!
    Her: no response (GTFO look)
    Me: You don't like talking do you?
    Her: (shakes her head)

    ended up leaving the set. she was a UG anyways, and god was she a b1tch.

    A girl drunk af bumps into me at the bat, she's a HB8
    Me: Hey now, I know I'm cute, but this is too fast for me.
    Her: (Drunken laugh)
    Wing: Man, this girl is mean.(jokingly) She told me to shut the f up earlier.
    Me: Whatttt? Idk if we can be friends now
    Her. (drunken laugh) I'm so drunk
    Me: Psh, I bet you can do better than that.
    Her: (laugh)

    She ends up walking away in a drunken stupor. I end up re approaching about 15 minutes later.

    Me: *lightly bump into her* huh, didn't see you there.
    Her: (laugh)
    Me: Geez, I was trying to get away. Are you following me or something?
    Her: Ahh, I'm too drunk for this! (walks away drunkenly giggling)

    We decided to leave the bar and hit another venue. By this time I have a vodka and redbull and jeezuz, I am super hyper. Hit a bar, that's got a big dance floor game kind of vibe. I abhor dance floor game. I find a HB8 and and a HB7 dancing together, so I go up and start dancing in the same area. The HB7 leaves, so I decided to back it up into the HB8, and I try to back her up and dance with her.

    Her: I don't dance like that.
    Me: Yeah right, you definitely do.
    Her: (laugh) I have a boyfriend
    Me: Me too.
    Her: (profusely laughing)
    Me: Maybe they can get together, we'll have a double date.
    Her: (Laughing pretty hard) I've got to go!

    In hindsight I should have approached earlier. I just hate dance floor game. Something I need to work on forsure. As I was leaving I was just so hyper. Ended up seeing the same girl as I was leaving.

    Me: Whooo! (other generic, drunken, hyper noises)
    Hb 7 and 8: laughing at me
    Me: Sorry, I'll turn it down. I know I'm like up here, I need to be down here. I just kept walking. I heard her saying, that's the guy and pointing at me as I was leaving. Huh, guess I made some sort of impression. Whatever it was.

    Overall, it was a weird night. Downtown wasn't really the best venue for that particular night. Looking forward to when all these special nights are over with.

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    Goals: Incorporate a new PUA technique each time I go out.
    Improve my dance floor game. I'll have to look up some material for this.
    I need to escalate sooner and stay in interactions for less time.

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    Damnit, I double posted and now this is me editing my double post.
    Last edited by espmma; 12-03-2013 at 09:49 AM. Reason: Accidentally double posted!

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    Another night dtown

    Fr #12 Nighttime

    Decided to limit myself on drinks and be the DD for the night. The scene was looking pretty promising. This is unfortunately going to be a short FR. We decided to start going around and bar hopping. We hit some of the smaller bars, and at the start of the night I was bringing some great energy. I could feel that women were laughing at me(not in a bad way) because I was bringing attention to myself. I was being loud, carefree and just bringing a fun vibe overall. Warmed up on a couple of sets by the bar. But nothing quite note worthy. We found ourselves in a smaller bar and my wing opened up a 3 set , 2 HB7s and a HB8. I tried to wing him but they started to close off to us.

    At this point all of the sets I've been in are all throw aways. My wing is pretty drunk and just cracking me up. He's having no fear in approaching women, just gotta work with him to find tune his interactions. A UG and approaches us with her HB8.5 friend.

    Her: Isn't my friend hot(while gesturing towards her open shirt that just screams, I need attention). If you had to describe her in one adjective, what would you say?
    Wing: Cinderalla
    Girls: (laughing)
    UG: Cinderalla, what about you, what would you say?
    Me: Well Cinderalla really isn't an adjective(trying to ensure they're value wasn't going higher than ours). And seeing as you're gesturing towards her boobs, I'm guessing that's what you're trying to accentuate here. My adjective would be...large.
    Her: Large? I haven't heard that one!
    Wing: something along the lines of her being beautiful

    After that they walked off from us. Told wing about higher value, and how direct compliments like that are too general, and over used and that they will generally not be useful. This girl was fishing for attention. Once we gave it to her, she was out.

    After this interaction we approaches a 2 set both HB7s. Got to talking to the girl about how she's from Iowa, and why she in town, yada yada. She was flashing plenty of IOIs, and then her friend proceeded to show me that the girl I was talking to was engaged. My wing tried to save it(rather cleverly, I might add) by turning the ring to the left and saying, that means it's off. I did some light kino, but didn't really try to escalate. Too many people there knew her, I doubt she would have gone home with me. Maybe if she was only with her one other friend. Left by telling her I was going to go hit on a single girl(LOL).

    Approached a 2 set, HB7 and a HB8, on their phones. Decided to try out the Roosh opener, "You guys look like you're having the most fun out of anybody here". Said it was a sarcastic twang, and it actually opened them up rather well. Going to utilize this more often.

    Her: Oh yeah, we're having a blast.
    Me: You gotta say it with some enthusiasm, you gotta be like f--- yeah I'm having fun.
    Girls: Laughter
    ---(conversation stagnation for a few seconds)--
    Wing: Oh you cracked your phone too?
    HB8: Yeah! It just happened tonight!
    Just talked about her phone a bit more, but we made the mistake of talking to the HB8 and not including the HB7, so she pulled her away from the interaction.

    After this, I fell into an old habit. I became very shy, withdrawn and quiet. Naturally, I am an introvert and I used to be REALLY quiet and withdrawn. I've been working on this for years to become more outgoing and talkative. I've come a LONG way, but every now and then, I revert back to my original old self. I've been hitting a plateau recently, so I think it just brought me down. Next time, I'm going to tell the guys so that they can push me to be the outgoing, fun sociable PUA we all know and love.

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    Outcomes: I did manage to use the new Roosh opener, so I'm keeping on my goal of trying out a new PUA technique each time I go out.
    Goals: I need to push through that introvert state next time I feel myself becoming this way.
    I need to keep that same initial energy I brought me with this night. I noticed that more people notice you, and that I give off a fun, playful, vibe.
    I need to work on hitting a venue and making friends with everybody, thereby increasing my value. Read some of this from Gambler.

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    Decided to head the mall at Millenia to go bag some holiday shoppers

    FR #13- Daygame

    MAN, is mall game different. Met up with the guys and we decided to split off into groups of 2 and hit different parts of the mall. Started off with a warm up set. I have been reading day bang by Roosh, so it convinced me to get some indirect game going for the daytime, which I've never really tried. I approached a older HB7 who was working for a warm up.

    Me: What's up with all of the fur that I keep seeing around?
    Her: Oh, it's for a promotion that's going on.
    Me: Oh really? Do people actually buy this stuff?
    Her: Oh yeah, There was a guy actually looking at that one the other day.
    Me: What? No way. I don't think I could ever wear something like that. It's like emasculating.
    Her: Well, this one is nice, it's manly.
    Yada yada more of this kind of talk. I never went direct with it, and politely ejected. Just wanted to get a grip on this indirect game during the day thing.

    After this I saw a HB8 in the same store and approached her.
    Me: Excuse me, I need a female opinion on something.
    Her: Okay.
    Me: I'm shopping for my gf and I'm looking for a gift for her.
    Her: Well, idk. Maybe a cute top like that, or some jewelry.
    Me: I just don't even know where to start with a top.
    Her: How much are you willing to spend?
    Me: The less the better.
    Her: well everything in this store is like $500 dollars. I only shop here and (I forgot the other ridiculously expensive place)
    Me: Ohh, so you're a big baller huh?
    Her: Laugh, yeah you could say that.

    After this I froze up and ejected. I think that money thing intimidated me. Damn, could have had a suga momma.

    Approached a HB9 tht was walking in Macy's, decided to try direct.
    Me: Excuse me
    Her: Yes?
    Me: (now realizing just how freaking hot she is) I say you passing by, and I thought you were cute. So, I came to say hi.
    Her: Laughing, thank you.
    Me: Oh you're welcome, are you shopping for family or something?
    Her: Yes, I am. (flashing a smile)
    Me: Oh okay, yeah I'm with my friend, we're shopping for our family and all. He's probably wondering where did I run off to. I just saw you and ran away from him.
    Her: laughing, do you know how old I am?
    Me: Hmm...25?
    Her: 17(eeek!).
    Me: Oh, when do you turn 18?
    Her: In January(whew)
    Me: Oh, you're almost there then huh? Well, my friend is probably wondering where the hell I'm at, so let me get your number real quick.
    Her: I'm sorry, I have a boyfriend.
    Me: No you don't.
    Her: No really I do! He goes to school at ----- with me.
    Me: Ah, of course you do. You're too damn cute. Well, have a good day. Nice to meet you.

    Approached indirect to a HB 8.5 selling perfume.
    Me: Hey, do you know why there's like random people dancing down there. (they were doing zumba in the middle of Macy's, wth..)
    Her: I have NO idea, I just come to malls to sell this product.
    Her: Want to smell sample this perfume djf;sldfkjas
    Me: Eh sure. Do you like this perfume?
    Her: No...it smells like old lady!
    Me: My god, it really does. So, you don't have a set schedule? You just go out to whatever mall?
    Her: Yeah basically.
    Me: Are people asking you employee questions? Like where's the bathroom?
    Her: My god, yes!!!
    (She started to drift away some and talk to some people, but really she was there to work, in hindsight I should have gone direct here)
    Me: Well, I gotta get going. Nice talking to you. Have fun.

    Saw a 2 set a HB 7.5 and a HB 8, came up to the 7.5
    Me: Excuse me, I saw you passing by and I thought you were cute, so I came to say hi to you. (HB 8 comes back, she had kept walking.) Oh, I didn't see you had a friend with you. My bad, lol.
    Her: Oh no that's okay.
    Me: What's your name?
    Her: s;dfjsdl;fj
    (my wing appears)
    Me: And this is my friend utfuif.
    (I can't really recall a lot of this conversation, just found out she's from UCF, that she was from some hispanic country. Mmmf, my favorite. Halfway through the interaction Tom and I end up switching girls, lawl.)
    my wing ended up number closing the one, to see if they were going to come dtown at night to hang out with us. So, I didn't try to Number Close. In hindsight, I should have got the digits too.

    My wing and I saw a HB 8.5 with a couple UGs heading into a store so we went in there to approach after some debate if we should follow into a store.
    (my wing opened and went direct, can't recall what he said now).
    The conversation stagnated after the opener, and my wing delivered a beautiful line.

    wing: Well, I'd buy you a drink, but there's no bar here.
    Her: Laughing, well, I'm only 17.
    wing: Geez, I'm old. I'm like 30. Nah not really, I'm 26.
    After that, I could tell Tom wasn't going to be about that life, I'm still only 21, so I'll number close a 17 year old. (that's not illegal!) I can't really recall this conversation either. But ended up getting the number close, after she tried to give me her Facebook(I don't have one, mwahaha). Probably a throw away number honestly.

    Overall, a pretty solid day game session. Mall game is just so different from university game. University game there are HBs EVERYWHERE. Mall game, theyíre with their mothers half of the time, or you get yourself wondering if theyíre 18. Eek.

    Goals
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    Refine the indirect approach. I think after a few minutes of indirect, I think Iíll go direct. Iíve gotta implement more of the technique from Rooshís book.
    Keep implementing a new technique each time I go out. Iím meeting this goal, and itís been good for me.

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    Sounds like a fun sarging, it was pleasure reading it. Damn, I've been trying to find some times and courages to go for a daygame for weeks now, it's about time to actually do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Taylor View Post
    Sounds like a fun sarging, it was pleasure reading it. Damn, I've been trying to find some times and courages to go for a daygame for weeks now, it's about time to actually do it.
    Just go for it man. I promise you that once I start getting out there and approaching, you'll feel so much better about yourself, no matter what the girl says.

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    Started this one out late(got to the downtown bars at around 1)

    Fr #14 Nighttime

    Let me tell you sobriety is hard. I'm going sober for the entire month of January, and now for February. Each time I have a drink I'm adding a month onto my sentence. It'll be good to give my body a cleanse for once, plus I've been constantly wanting to stop relying on alcohol to "enhance" my PUA skills.

    Anywho, this night started off real late. I was in a bit of a bad state of mine at first because parking took 30 minutes(don't ask, trust me) but I finally got there and meet up with my wings. My wing bumped a HB8 with her HB7 friend and walked away putting me in the interaction, we joked about it and it was cool, tried to open them but they didn't even respond to me. Like literally didn't even acknowledge a word a said to them. Idk if they didn't hear me or they were just throwing up the BS. Pride got the best of me and I ejected.

    Ended up in BBQ bar, and there were a decent amount of girls around. My one wing got in a set so my second wing and I decided to walk around. I didn't approach any in the area getting a initial dose of aa, that I knew would wear off once I started getting in there. We were walking around my second wing got into another set, decided to not wing him because it was a one set. Ended up heading upstairs where there were a decent amount of girls. My second wing opened up a HB7(I couldn't hear a word he said) but I think she hit him or something on accident? idk I'm still perplexed. But I got in the interaction and started joking with the girl saying, "hey, he's sensitive alright? How are you just going to hit him like that? I thought you were cooler than that, come on now." She was laughing and she was touchy, showing definite IOIs, but her friends was pulling her away. I blanked out on this one and let her get away, I should've joked with her and brought in the cock blocka to the interaction.

    After that I felt like the rust was wearing off so we went around looking for more sets. I passed by a 3 set with a UG and 2 HB7s. I went to go approach and literally as I went to go sit down next to her, her bf swoops right in front of me and takes a seat. Well shit, that was some bad luck.

    We decided to go back to wall st. Ended up opening a 3 set(UG, HB7, HB8)
    2nd wing: (to HB8) woah, are you drinking water?
    Me: You know, I thought you were cooler than that. I'm so dissapointed.

    Can't really recall much else of this conversation, but we were vibing and getting along pretty well, until I learned that the HB8 and the UG were married and it was the bachelorette party for the HB7. In hindsight I probably should've messed with the HB7, and make fun of the cliches of having a bachelorette party. But soon after hearing that news I decided it was time to eject.

    Met up with 3rd wing, and 2nd wing got into a one set by himself. 3rd wing and I somehow got into a conversation with the short HB8. And we were doing well in the interaction but some huge black guy almost knocked her over and they ended up talking to her, didn't really want to appear beta by just hanging around her, so eventually we said screw it. Tried to open up more sets at this point I was feeling good with my interactions and ready to roll, but it was also 1:50AM. Tried a high five, that didn't workout. Totally blanked out on a HB9 that I did a very generic, hey, whatsup to. Then, 3rd wing and I approached a HB8(talking with her made her a 9) and a HB7 at the bar.

    Me: You guys look like you are just having the time of your lives right now.
    HB: Oh yeah we are
    Me: I figured, I'm going to come talk to you and you're just going to brighten up my night.
    HB: Yeah, I'm sure we can do that.
    Me: Alright, so entertain me. Do you have like a joke, a juggling act, something?
    HB: Mmm, no. Nope, all out of jokes.
    Me: You have to have one! I mean like, alright, a guy walks into a bar...
    HB: You're on a roll keep going.
    Me: No you have to contribute to the story, it's your turn. It's like uh..how do you call it? Improv yeah.
    HB: And he's wearing a blue shirt
    Me: And he is just sexy as f----.
    HB: And he's single.
    Me: How could you tell?(God, I love sarcasm). And he comes in and talks to a girl, who's also single.
    HB: Laughs

    After this we just ended up talking about general things, while I found excuses to do some light kino on her. Some guy grabbed her shirt earlier so it was a good way to examine her shirt material and do some kino. Also, we introduced eachother and our names later on, it was cold so I put her hands to my face, because i said they were warm (I thought it was a good excuse). Ended up getting the n close, definitely a cool ass girl, would love to meet more girls like this.

    The night was ending and 3rd wing and I saw a 2 set with a UG and a HB7. I went to approach and a guy walked right in front of me and was talking to them(their friend, evidently, wtf 2x in one night my terrible ass timing). He walked away and 3rd wing ended up re-engaging after my pride didn't want me to reopen, also didn't want to appear beta. He was in the interaction for about 5 minutes, decided to wing him. Started talking to the HB

    Me: Were you guys on wall st. earlier?
    HB: No we were at sdilgsa;lj bar and my friend works at I Bar(that's where we were out by)
    Me: Oh you missed out this big black guy was freaking out and got tazed! (a bit of an embellishment, he didn't actually get tazed, but damnit he was close)
    HB: Oh no we didn't see that.
    Me: Yeah it was wild. so let me you ask about this tattoo here, does it mean something?

    Whenever girls have tattoos it's a GREAT topic to bring up. She started showing me all of the ones she had right along her panty line and such. A perfect excuse for kino as I touched each of the tattoos as she was explaining them to me and what not. Definitely was showing me IOIs. Then tried to n close

    Me: Alright, that bulgarian tattoo was so awesome, that I'm going to need your number before I go.
    HB: I have a boyfriend, he's actually standing right over there....(DOH!)
    Me: Oh shit, no way! Alright well, you all have a good night.

    Overall it was a late night, but I ended up feelin' the vibe and I felt like I was doing solid in my latter interactions.

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    Outcomes:Got a solid n close, and didn't drink a drop of alcohol. I'm loving that roosh opener, and I'm using it pretty often now. Sarcasm FTW.
    Goals: Experiment with a new opener next time.
    Do a little more kino and get closer.

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    Where do you game? If you're in Philly try to go to roxxy and we can wing
    You lose some you win some, learn from your mistakes and get better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by marvilo View Post
    Where do you game? If you're in Philly try to go to roxxy and we can wing
    I'm actually out in Orlando, FL bro. If you're ever out this way hmu though!

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    Ended up hitting Mad Hatterís a local UCF Bar, got there around 11.

    Fr #15 Nighttime

    Iím staying on my trip of sobriety until March. I had a huge test this night because there were free drinks until 12. God, did I want a beer. But thatís part of the reason why Iím doing it, itís hard, and itís a challenge for me.

    Ended up meeting with a couple of wings. Had some initial hesitation, bit of aa. There wasnít really a whole lot of talent in the place so we dipped really quickly, and went to another bar. It was pretty busy when we got there. Met up with another wing and we got drinks first(well, I had water) and we ended up chilling at first. Decided to start heading in and one of my wings and I got into a set with a couple HB 7ís. He had already approached so I came up and started to wing him. Definitely a warm up toss away set, had a IOI from my girl but I could tell they werenít really feeling us. Chalked it up to being a toss away set and ejected after telling them to have a good night and saying cheers. This is something I learned from Gambler, to always try to leave sets on a good note, because thereís other girls watching around you.

    After this we all ended up splitting up, met up with the one of my other wings and we started approaching. I ended up seeing some friends I knew 2 HB 8ís and a HB7, so I decided to try and game with them. Was in the set for a while with my wing and I ended up rejecting wanting to see what other prospects were out there. My wing approached a UG that was with her two HB8 friends at the bar. He was trying to get everyone involved but it just wasnít happening. Ended up rejecting.

    My wing then approached a 2 set, HB8 and a UG. They were playing darts but we found out it was the HBs birthday, teased her about not drinking, etc. They kept playing darts but HB was definitely showing signs of IOIs. My wing ended up ejecting after about 5 minutes in the set, ended up keeping both of their attention. Just basically implemented everything Iíve learned up to this point in my PUA skills. Just kept sarcastic, kept everything real light, and joked around and teased. Also, was doing some light kino, and she was responsive. Also slipping in sexual nuances. Everything that Iíve been working on for the past 3 months since Iíve really started sarging. Ended up getting the N close as she was leaving.

    After that found the HBs that I had known before and decided to go for one of them, but nothing really concrete came up in the interactions. Didnít really approach after this, and exited the bar when it shut down at 2.
    Ended up texting the HB from earlier and meeting up, and the rest is history gentleman.
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    Outcomes: Pulled my first girl of 2014, really cool chick. Not just an everyday slutty girl that you pull from a random bar. Definitely my type of girl.
    Goals: Keep implementing what I did so well this night! Just want to try to keep experimenting with different PUA techniques, and stay on this sobriety goal that Iíve been working on.


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