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    Default Two K-closes last week, one crazy one ordinary

    Hey guys, been a while since i posted, got two k-closes last week. The first one was pretty standard and featured normal game, the other was something i never had happen before.

    The normal close

    One of my best friends and wings came back to town, last time we went out we went out with some girls and it was a pretty bleh night, but he n-closed one of them and he got another date.

    Now, i've been very focused on school these last few months and i haven't been sarging much at all, i wasn't feeling 'well oiled' so to speak, but enough experience has made me feel calm about going out.

    My wing set the date and out come a HB7/HB6 couple (of course i got the short end of the deal). We play average game on the way to a bar, the girls are animated though. We got to this almost empty place and order some beers.

    From then on out it got pretty easy, i used some openers to break the ice and then we plowed through with some good banter (me and my wing have good chemistry).

    I then used a great left brain/right brain kino gambit i got from this forum (I can't remember where exactly, but if your curious ask away), the girls ate it up, kept asking me about it.

    A little while after i used Mysterys Girls = Evil gambit, girls got confused, did not like, i plowed through.

    Me and my wing then kept being cool and playfull, acting Alpha and doing good game. A problem arises when HB7 decides Facebook is more entertaining than us, neither me nor my wing seem to put much effort into bringing her back into the mix, a mistake on my part mostly. This problem just gets worse as the night goes on.

    As the night slowed down a played the cube trying to bring HB7 back a little, i did it on both of them. HB7 was not bothered, HB6 started crying telling us how it reminded her of her sister and all the problems shes had in her life, at this point you know the night is over.

    We got back into the car and took the girls home, i insisted on sitting in the back seat with HB6, from there i just kept the Kino Escalation going and before she got home, k-close. Easy peasy.

    We got a Day 2 next day, it went ok for me but not too good for my wing (he can be very stubborn, played shit game).

    Next one up

    The abnormal close

    Saturday rolls up and confidence is good considering that last close, however no plans in sight. One of my good friend messages me and tells me he needs me urgently, i give him a call.

    He tells me she has a girl for me that i'll love and wanted me to really really meet, and then she passes the phone to this very same girl, we had a small awkward conversation and she tells me that she'll come by to pick me up, i hear other guys in the background, i hang up and she texts me 30 secs later telling me shes on her way. It all went weird considering no girl has ever had my number BEFORE meeting me and decided she wanted to text me and pick me up, she basically sarged me.

    After a quick shower the group arrives, it is a mixed set of 3 guys and 3 girls including the HB8 they were setting me up with, i knew all the guys. As soon as i arrive and get in the car they give me the motherload gang up AMOG treatment, from the start they tell me and her they were going to set is up, how she was my future wife, how i should start hugging her, how we should just kiss and get it over, how we're going to name our children, how i should be agressive with her. The girl was nonchalant about all of this and i'm just silently try to figure out wtf is going on.

    I didn't want to jump into their hoops and just play direct game with the girl since that would be pretty low value, i was trying to engage the set in the best way i could think of, but they just bounced my talk back on me telling me i should start gaming the girl. I settled for some awkward small talk that sounds like interview mode, things were not going well.

    We arrive to my friends house and hung out a little bit there. HB8 tells me shes cold, which normally means she wants you to put her arm around her, in this case i settled for a very lame "oh". The other guys kept bullying me telling me i really need to hug her, i saw her and she looked a little sad and disappointed, i decided "fark it" and told her to come here and gave her a hug, she promptly gave me compliance and returned the hug. That gave me a good idea she was also game and not onto just a gag.

    We decided to go out and all in one car, we didn't exactly fit so she just sat on my lap, i do not know what to make of this but i did some kino escalation here.

    We went to this pool bar place and started playing 8 ball, we separated into two teams and the group decided the rules: If my team won, she has to kiss me, if their team won, i had to kiss her, i honestly do not know what to make of this, so i just start playing, trying to win. I win the game, i wanted to see if she would actually go through with it, she gave it a 2 second consideration and gave me a big wet slopply kiss, from that moment i knew it was on and went all out.

    Next game they win, i kissed her and this time it was even better. After this i just slightly isolated her and built some comfort and kept the kino escalation going, it goes on well.

    We leave the place and go back to my friends place, this time though we took her car back, when we arrived she told me she just wanted to hang out in the car and "talk", it was definitely on. We talked and made out a little, the guys were making it pretty awkward though, at one point in the night she decided it was time for us to go somewhere else, it was very definitely on.

    She asked me where i wanted to go, i told her we should just hang out outside my house and told her to park outside. Some INTENSE make out ensues, at this point i start wondering if i can go for the F-Close. I started escalating things, pushing my luck, at some point she just tells me, "no sorry, not on the first date" and i tell her that's cool by me. She tells me she has to go, we set it up for another date and that was that.

    I pushed it enough that i was wary of buyers remorse, i called her the next day and we have texted pretty much all day throughout the last two days. I give her several IOIs as if to reverse buyers remorse, she has responded them all and given me several of her own. Day 2 is already scheduled, at this point it looks like LTR to me.

    So in this situation i held pretty much every single card known to mankind and she practically sarged me. Not very interesting from a PUA standpoint, but it has all felt pretty crazy to me.
    Last edited by KristiBell; 11-12-2013 at 07:23 AM.

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    Default Re: Two K-closes last week, one crazy one ordinary

    Hey J thanks for the reply on my thread. Some solid stuff here. I agree we seem to have similar game (similar writing styles too!), although you seem to have been doing this stuff longer than me, you have a lot of routines etc. that you seem to like to throw out which is awesome. I tend to go with more a of "natural coast" and I find it works wonders for me, as long as I remember to neg and dhv and so on. I would love to try something like the cube, I've always thought that is a great technique.

    The car ride with the HB 8 and her friends is my favorite part. You were put in a super awkward and embarrassing situation, and you plowed through like a champ. I think if you had given in and not kept your cool at that point in the night, you wouldn't have even K-Closed this chick. Good on you dude. You said that you, like me, like to have a drink or 2 to take the edge off when gaming. I'm curious, did you drink at all for the 'abnormal close'?

    Let us know what happens with this girl. Congrats on a solid night!

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    Default Re: Two K-closes last week, one crazy one ordinary

    Hey thanks twenty

    As for the alcohol thingy i had 0 drinks that night. The reason is because HB8 told me she doesn't really drink and some girls like that hold different standards as far as alcohol goes, i thought it would be better if i didn't drink, i did feel a bit more stressed out but i maneged fine with experience and whatnot.

    And yeah, natural is almost always better it seems, i think alot about stuff and incorporate routines, they're mostly a crutch for when i'm not feeling spontenous. I do recommend the cube, its very easy and can sometimes work great in Isolation, i've had a ton of different responses to it though, from one case pushing her over the edge in attraction to this girl who ended up crying, one even got offended.

    But i like it anyways because it gives me valuable info on her (its almost scary how accurate its been), for example hb8 revealed to me that her perfect lover is big strong Alpha.

    Good luck in the field

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    Default Re: Two K-closes last week, one crazy one ordinary

    sounds like a real fun night my man. you mand up to the situation even though your friends were all throwing you under bus like that.

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    Default Re: Two K-closes last week, one crazy one ordinary

    Hey quick update guys, she just texted me and said she's picking me up from school and bringing me something to eat since i get out late.... This ones a keeper


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