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    Default Re: Approach/open 100 times

    7. on a Pedestrian Street
    I approached a girl on a pedestrian street in my neighborhood. When I was walking towards her, she tried to dodge me by walking away. I started the conversation by asking where was XX road. She heard that I was asking her for direction, her attitude immediately changed, and stopped, and explained me how to walk there. I was not interested in how I could go there because I knew how to go there. Then I said to her, "You are cute, I want to know you." Her attitude changed immediately, she was on guard, and said to me, "No need." and walked away.

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    8. On a Pedestrian Street
    I approached a beautiful girl on a pedestrian street. I walked toward her, and said to her, "Hi, how are you. You're very charming, I want to know you." She said to me, "No need." with a hesitant tone of voice. I persisted and plowed, she said that she was waiting for someone. I managed to talk to her for a while. She said there were other girls around, why I didn't approach them. I asked why she didn't want me to know her, she said that she was older than me. She is probably older than me, probably over 30, but she is very beautiful, she wore makeup. Anyway, I still failed.

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    So I did five approaches on the street with no success. I just read the book What women want and how to give it to them. This book says that direct approach is the best, much better than Indirect Approach. Well, I followed the instructions given in the book and did some approaches but no success. I feel that it is hard to approach a girl on the street. Why? Girls are always on guard on the street. When you approach her on the street from nowhere, she can not make sure if you are dangerous therefore they will not accept your approach. They are not expecting to be approached by a strange man on the street. I think that it is better to use direct approach in bars/night clubs as girls there are expecting to be approached by strange men.

    Is anyone here successful with direct approach on the street? How do you do that? What are the guidelines/instructions?

    I am thinking that if you go to a cafe with friends, and talk for some time, like half of hour, and then you go to the adjacent table and tell her that you notice her and you find she is attractive and you want to know her, she is more likely to accept it, because you have exposed yourself to her for enough time and she won't regard you as a dangerous person. What do you think of it?

    In one word, you can be successful with direct approach either(1) She is expecting to be approached like in a bar or night club (2) or you can let her realize that you are not dangerous/harmful, for examples, she and you sit in adjacent tables in a restaurant or a coffee shop, or she and you are in an airplane, etc.

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    Default Re: Approach/open 100 times

    Keep it up Jack100! I should have used this method when I first learned what game was.

    As you continue to approach, you will get better. I believe the reason you're rejected is because you still lack the confidence. When you approach her, your voice tone and body language are probably signalling "please don't reject me, you're so beautiful. I need you".

    You can go direct or indirect in an approach. When I go indirect, I switch over to a more direct approach after a few minutes of conversation. Here is an example of my typical approach:

    Direct:
    Me: Hey! I just saw you from over there and you're a total cutie. If I didn't come and talk to you I would have felt like a complete vagina (Simple Pickup uses something like this)

    Indirect:
    Chatting with Hired Guns in a store
    Me: Hey do you have a minute to give me a hand? I'm trying to find x.
    Her: yeah sure la la la.
    After you find what you need...
    Me: You seem like a pretty friendly girl. We should keep in touch. What's your name?
    etc.

    This is pretty basic because I have to get a bus in 5 minutes but I hope you find this useful because I think using the word "beautiful" compared to complimenting her on her style or using a less serious word like cutie is more effective.

    For number closing, I just pull out my phone after I know her name and start typing it in. She knows you're going to give it to her. It's obvious. When you pass it to her, she'll gladly give you her number if you seem like a cool person and you've built up some attraction.

    Cheers,

    -Surferdude

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    Default Re: Approach/open 100 times

    Quote Originally Posted by surferdude View Post
    As you continue to approach, you will get better. I believe the reason you're rejected is because you still lack the confidence. When you approach her, your voice tone and body language are probably signalling "please don't reject me, you're so beautiful. I need you".
    Sure I will get better if I continue to approach, but I doubt if approaching girls directly on the street is a good idea to begin with. My confidence can be slightly stronger, but I don't think that I lack the confidence, I didn't feel nervous when I approached them and I didn't fear their rejections. I didn't feel sad even in the slightest after they rejected me.

    I think, when you approach a girl on the street and you tell her that she is beautiful and you want to know her, her first and primary concern is that whether you are safe and on the street it is difficult to convince them that you are a safe person.

    I am in China and I'm Chinese, I think direct approach may work better in USA. But please don't argue with me if you once came to China and approached girls on the street. A western guy is quite easy to find a Chinese girl in China, that's the reality. If you don't believe, you can come to China and you will know it.

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    Default Re: Approach/open 100 times

    I certainly have no intentions of arguing with you. I've never been to China, though I may take a trip there with a couple friends when I obtain my degree next April.

    There is only so much input you can give without actually seeing the interaction take place. Keep up the good work and I'm sure you will get lots of feedback on this thread.

    -Surferdude

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    I always use direct approach, because it is much easier than Indirect Approach. Does anyone have a high success rate with direct approach on the street?
    ah I have a good piece of advice for you, the best way to make Direct Game work, is to build a little comfort before you go direct.

    bad example direct approach:

    me: wow, you're beautiful!
    her: thanks.
    me: I could get to know a girl as pretty as you
    her: get lost.

    (coming on too strong will often trigger her defenses)

    vs

    good comfort first direct game.

    me: hey, have you ever noticed how those woman walk all weird with there hips?
    her: yeah actually, I think all woman do that.
    me: aha, you're doing it too
    her: lol I am.
    me: I find it attractive, keep doing it. (using my eyes I look down at her hips in an obvious way)
    her: like what you see?
    me: of course
    me: how are you still single with a smile like that? (obviously not looking at her smile) (implying that she's single to figure out her relationship status)
    her: lol (smiles)
    me: I have an intuition about you
    her: oh yeah? and whats that?
    me: come closer.
    her: (leans in)
    me: (pulls her closer)(using low toned seductive voice) I bet you're a good kisser.
    her: really? are you sure?
    me: there's only one way to find out. (cups the back of her neck and pulls her in for a kiss)
    her: (kisses)
    me: wow, you really are a good kisser, we're going to have to do that again.
    her: you're not bad yourself
    me: lets go get coffee
    her: I don't drink coffee
    me: in that case you can come watch me drink mine.
    her: ok.
    (proceeds to have an insta date at the coffee shop)

    see the difference? instead of opening directly, I opened indirectly, but still showed direct intent soon after. that way I got her laughing, and direct gamed her as soon as I had raised her emotional state.

    btw, some of that may have sounded a little AFC, but it didn't matter because of my confident body language. when you truly believe in yourself, you can get away with murder.

    also, 100 approaches is not much. (though it is good that you're getting out and sarging)
    not to brag or anything, but last year I made 1000 approaches in 3 months. (grant it that many were quick sets that didn't last very long) at the end of those 3 months I had a girlfriend I liked, so I stopped keeping count.

    this year, I bought a calendar book to record how many women I talked to every day for the whole year. (however this year I'm focusing on quality over quantity) thus far I've approached around 200 girls, but I've already gotten more k-closes than I had gotten from the 1000 approaches last year.

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    One major thing you need to understand, First: when you read books like that it doesn't mean you should copy exactly what the guy is saying or doing, you should try to include what he is saying in your style of pickup. You're not him so it won't work for you. Try to just incorporate some of the advice he gives to you not all of them. Second: You're just starting out don't fret!!! You got to keep going and way more than 1 approach per day. You should do it to the point where you're in the zone and it's just muscle memory that day. Imagine people like Tom Tererro, Yad, Sasha, Liam McCrae, and John Marshall who got more than 1000 rejections under their belt. You're just starting so no need to beat yourself up when something doesn't go right. I like how you write your wrong doing down afterwards but while you do that you should also LEARN from them and grow the next time you do an approach. Find a method that works for you best, don't use all of what you read or hear because that only works for that person and might not work for you. Remember that.

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    Default Re: Approach/open 100 times

    Good work man! Keep it up!

    I've found the same thing as Meteora. I've done best going indirect then going extremely direct AFTER I've built some comfort. It's like a shock and awe campaign!

    It's possible it has something to do with your socialization in your country. I've watched videos of direct approaches all over Europe and they work there, but China COULD be different. I would bet that it has something to do with your approach however, and they are picking up some vibe they don't like. Like others stated, it's hard to find out what that is without actually watching you do it.

    To do an approach correctly, like the book states, takes HUGE balls and can definitely be done. When you are EXTREMELY confident you can literally say anything you want.

    Keep it up! 8 approaches is not that many, and I bet guys like John Marshal and Sasha get blown out 10-20 times for every girl they do Number Close. Remember, even if you ARE doing everything right, sometimes the women is just not interested.

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    Default Re: Approach/open 100 times

    Quote Originally Posted by DirectIsBest View Post

    Keep it up! 8 approaches is not that many, and I bet guys like John Marshal and Sasha get blown out 10-20 times for every girl they do Number Close. Remember, even if you ARE doing everything right, sometimes the women is just not interested.
    How do you do the direct approach? Can you write an example? What is your success rate? What is your country? Greece?

    What do you mean by John Marshal and Sasha get blown out 10-20 times for every girl they do number close?


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