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    Default Learned to cater to no one.

    So pretty much this girl and I know each other through seeing one another around. She works at the grocery store, I work at the bar. She opened to me before but I wasn't that confident at the time and right now my confidence level is through the roof but I wanna know what to do next?

    Me: So do you work at a hair salon?

    Her: ahah its funny you say that because I just got hired at one

    Me: Oh I asked because your hair is always so different, so when do you leave this job?

    Her: Oh Im going to be working here as well, so how come your bar closes so early?

    Me: You know we have a life too so we close it early because people sit around, so do you have bbm?

    Her: I have a black berry but I don't have bbm.

    Me: Oh okay how about we play a game, I ask you 5 questions, you have to answer them all wrong but if you answer one right, I get your number

    Her: That's fun but maybe next time

    Me: Next time means no aha because I probably won't ask again so are you sure (did it for dhv because I felt rejected)

    Her: just smiling

    Me: (walking away) so your sure right?

    So that's that, no one was around it was just us. So should I leave it or approach her again and be like "Hey so last time you said no to the number bet, How about we play just the game :P I wanna see if I can beat an *her name (its a special kind of name which works in this sentence)*

    I'm still going to shop there though, cater to no one,
    Last edited by Stargazer_; 02-05-2014 at 01:52 AM. Reason: edit

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    Default Re: Learned to cater to no one.

    Sup Stargazer,
    Ooo swing and miss on that first one. Don't worry man it happens, chin up brother I believe there is still hope for you. I'd personally leave it for a couple days. If you see her in the store, make eye contact and smile, but there is no need to do anything more than small talk. Then when you are feeling comfortable let's say after a couple times of seeing her again and making small talk say something like "You know how I said I wouldn't ask for your number again? I've decided you're too (insert compliment here) for me to give up. So what do you say? (then get number)". This way you can hopefully build up some more comfort and then get her number. Best of luck d00d
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    Default Re: Learned to cater to no one.

    the thing is I can't really create much small talk as shes at work, so it's like im competing with time, PS: Idk if she has a man or not but she does come to the bar with a guy, she said its her friend, shes always with him whenever at bar.

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    Default Re: Learned to cater to no one.

    Ooo she always is at the bar with a guy? I think that might be the reason you didn't get the number man. Even though she says "it's her friend" it's very possibly a guy shes hooking up/ significant other. I mean would you bring a girl to the bar you solely liked as a friend over and over? I wouldn't. In my personal opinion I would go with what I said, and try for the number again after a couple more interactions, and if you still don't get it i'd say it's probably a fair bet to say she has something with that guy. Either that or your execution in the first place was totally off, but that's for you to decide. Best wishes d00d
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    Default Re: Learned to cater to no one.

    Umm, I'd wait a few days & re-approach her.

    Playing the "game" in my opinion, was lame, & too much investment on her part right from the beginning. She needs more attraction to be built before you decide to play a "game"
    I'd honestly just be straight up, games are for chumps IMO.

    That'd be like me just walking up to a girl & telling her to buy this for me. She'd be like, "wtf, umm no." Because it's too much investment right from the start. She won't comply.
    (Bad example, but I'm tired lol)

    If you wanted her number, banter and flirt with her a little bit, & then just tell her she's really fun & that you'd love to get coffee sometime & hangout.
    Then use Kino's Number Close. (My favorite)

    Say her name....(example: Jessica)

    "Jessica right?....(pull out your phone)
    Her: yeah Jessica.
    You: Number. (Don't say, what is your number, or can I have your number, just say, "Number")
    Her: 5555555555
    You: wait, you're not one of those girls that's going to be keeping me up all night & calling me at 5am right? (Smile)
    Her: no! Lol
    You: alright I'll be in touch Jessica. (Smile)"
    Then just walk away.

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    Default Re: Learned to cater to no one.

    I like Kino's Number Close but I haven't used it. I think the way you went about it was wrong. The game thing wasn't the right thing to do. Once that went wrong you pushed too much and looked weak by asking her multiple times if she was "sure". You should have said "Ok, I guess you're not that interested" then turned around and walked away.

    I have very good success with number closing. This is what I do. I"ll say "Hey (her name) You are really fun to talk to, let's get together sometime. Then I pull out my phone and hand it to her. That's it. She puts her number in your phone. You don't ask for her number, you just hand her your phone and get it. I have never had a girl say no, but I did get my first fake number in the last 7 years recently. That made me laugh, so I'll call it 97% number close.

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    Default Re: Learned to cater to no one.

    Don't ever use the question game or any game to get a girl's number,it shows lack of confidence,it delivers a different message,the girl thinks you don't have confidence to get her number,so you use a game to "force" the number.

    Look up on youtube "put your number in my phone" by VitalyzdTv,the dude literally just walks up to girls and tells them(with confidence) to put a number in his phone,and most of them do.

    Also next time just open her,talk for a bit and end with,"well i gotta run,give me your number,no games this time".
    If she refuses,don't chase her,try someone else,don't get stuck on one girl.

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    Default Re: Learned to cater to no one.

    I think I went wrong about asking her for the number as well, What should I talk to her about for small talk? Just to get the awkward thought of me already asking for her number out of her head, so this way I can create small talk here and then use Kino's Number Close.

    Pretty much I know she works there, she knows I work at the bar,

    she knows I go to the gym near by the grocery store, I know she goes to the YMCA, via conversation

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    Default Re: Learned to cater to no one.

    Dude, your prize for winning the game is her phone number? YOU ARE THE PRIZE. NOT HER.

    You should have said, "Let's play a question game. If you win, you get my number."

    For me, I usually just say, "Wow, you seem like you might be pretty cute. I'd like to find out if you're as cute as you seem. What steps can we take to continue this conversation?" And that keeps the frame in the right place, with you as the prize.

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    Default Re: Learned to cater to no one.

    JPAC1123

    What should I do next? Leave it and move it on or approach her once more?


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