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    Default Latina in London - daygame

    Hey guys,
    I live in London and do mainly daygame there. I met this American girl and here's what happend.

    She was standing outside the Oxford Circus station probably waiting for someone. I stopped and just looked at her (I probably still had a little anxiety). She noticed me and then I decided to approach her.

    Me: Excuse me. Im not sure whether I should do it, but I feel I have to.
    Her: Ok
    Me: I just saw you standing here and thought you look great. I wasnt sure if I should say something but I figured If dont do it Ill never get a chance to meet you.
    Her: Thank you. I appreciate that. It never happened to me before.

    So her reaction was very positive. I simply introduced myself and started making assumptions about her.

    Me: You have this exotic look about you that European guys like me find very attractive. You must be from one of these hot countries.
    Her: Thank you very much. I am from Florida by my parents are from Honduras.

    I tried to spark some more attraction but could say she was impressed by my ballsy attitude. She told me shes been shopping, spent too much money and waiting for friends to go for a dinner. I teased her that shes shopaholic and I have to stop her from spending any more money. I later used it as callback humour in my text to her. After a few minutes of chit chat I suggested we should grab a coffee one day after work and exchanged numbers with her.
    I texted her about an hour later. Because she told me she was shopping but had to stop as didn't want to spend too much money I used it as a call back humor in my first message to her.
    "Are you carrying on your shopping rampage?!"
    She responded well by saying that she stopped and went to meet a friend. We kept exchanging texts for the next few days, but her responses were quite late. She even apologized about it because she had a deadline at work. So I teased her that it was very suspicious and she must be an American spy. Then I suggested a drink one evening during the week. She said she was busy but suggested we meet on Sunday evening. I texted her on Saturday but didn't get any response so I though she was flaking on me. Then on Sunday about midday she responded and the date was on.
    We met at Piccadilly Circus and went to the Grace bar. I got us some wine and sat next to her. The date was going well. I tried to ouch her at every opportunity and play with her hair which I genuinely liked. She had lovely curly hair and would tell her that every 10 minutes or so and touch it. As she told me she was doing some boxing I used it to go for a kiss.

    Me: Would I get punched if I gave you a cheeky kiss on the cheek?
    Her: No, you wouldn't.

    I kissed her on the cheek. After about 10 minutes I said "Let's see how far I can go until I punched". I kissed her on the lips but she wasn't comfortable with it so I stopped. I knew it was only because of the location. After we finished our wine I suggested a walk. We walked towards the South Bank. It was quite romantic walking by the river. We passed a young couple that was kissing. Then I suggested we should sit on a bench for a minute. I started talking how romantic that was and that it felt so good to be with her there. That was the right moment to go for a kiss.

    Me: I am really thinking about kissing you right now.
    Her: OK.

    We made out for a while and then talked a bit. After that we walked to the tube station to get our trains home.

    She didn't respond when I texted her a couple of days later. Then I texted her again after a few days and sill got no response. Any thought what might've gone wrong?

    Thanks for reading

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    Default Re: Latina in London - daygame

    Sounds like you were more into it then she was. Did you do any Kino or compliance tests before you brought up the kissing?

    If it felt like you were constantly working to get her attracted to you chances are you may of come off slightly fake, too nice, basically beta. Thats when you change things up with things such as negs or Push-Pull.

    Hope that helps

    EDIT: Do keep in mind your lines werent bad at all, just the set up for them wasnt quite complete
    Last edited by Sleath5; 02-21-2014 at 10:16 PM. Reason: Make him feel better: Im Canadian

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    Default Re: Latina in London - daygame

    Quote Originally Posted by Sleath5 View Post
    Sounds like you were more into it then she was. Did you do any Kino or compliance tests before you brought up the kissing?

    If it felt like you were constantly working to get her attracted to you chances are you may of come off slightly fake, too nice, basically beta. Thats when you change things up with things such as negs or push-pull.

    Hope that helps

    EDIT: Do keep in mind your lines werent bad at all, just the set up for them wasnt quite complete

    I'm going to have to disagree. With Direct Game you don't REALLY push pull or neg. The whole Mindset is that you're the shit, you like her, and she should be VERY excited that such a high value male is showing her interest. I've pulled the two most attractive women of my life being extremely direct and push-pull/ negs were not involved. Telling her how beautiful she is and how much you like her/her hair is what you do in direct game. It's being honest.

    Sure, I would playfully make fun of them, but I wouldn't consider that a neg. That's flirting.

    You did awesome man! You pulled a babe off the street cold, and got her on a date! Good work! The only thing I didn't like was asking her for a kiss. I never ask a girl for a kiss. If I feel like she's into it I just go for it. If she turns away I laugh and give her a sly smile and continue. Don't ask, just do!

    Who knows why she flaked on you. There could be many reasons. Who cares what she thinks! Who cares why she flaked. Don't think about that. You did awesome!

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    Default Re: Latina in London - daygame

    The Direct Game he used in the beginning was perfect, agreed that there was no need for push/pull or a neg (a neg for me is teasing, I don't do harsh put-downs).

    However for the second date, it sounds like it was going stale, so I disagree. Those are pathways that could of spiced it up a bit, as from the sound of it direct wasn't hitting home with this girl. If he brought them in softly and see how she reacted without changing his frame, then he could of potentially ended his story differently.

    What works for some woman won't work for others, there isn't one try-true method for it all.

    "You did awesome man! You pulled a babe off the street cold, and got her on a date! Good work! The only thing I didn't like was asking her for a kiss. I never ask a girl for a kiss. If I feel like she's into it I just go for it. If she turns away I laugh and give her a sly smile and continue. Don't ask, just do!"

    Agreed

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    Default Re: Latina in London - daygame

    Thanks for your feedback guys. Very helpful. I also think that maybe I made myself to available to her as during the date I suggested we could do a few things together like salsa etc. I should have mentioned these things but not invite her straight away. I probably came across as too needy. She might have lost the attraction as originally I went very direct and confident and on the date I was a bit beta as Sleath5 said.
    DirectIsBest I keep approaching girls on streets directly. To be honest this makes more sense to me as I want to be honest and authentic with them and it's much easier as you and a girl both know what you want. You don't need to play around with transitioning etc. I also agree with asking girls for a kiss. Just getting my experience now

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    Default Re: Latina in London - daygame

    You started really well and it looked like the Date was going good until you asked her permission to kiss on the cheek and then ask her for a kiss,that might be what turned her off to be honest,you came as very confident and ballsy when you approached her,very good first impression.

    But then you started asking her permission on the kisses,which looked really weird to her,and she might have changed her mind about you.

    How was your body language throughout the date ?Were you calm and relaxed(at least did your body look calm and relaxed ?)?Or there were signs of you being nervous ?To me it seems like it's not the push pulls or negs,to me it looks like you didn't make her comfortable enough,which is why I think that the body language and the whole asking for permission might have ruined it.

    As for flirting,I wouldn't worry about it too much,everybody flirts when they see the opportunity.If you psych yourself about it,you will come off as a try hard.Flirting works,but not when you're psyching yourself that "I must flirt" the whole day.

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    Default Re: Latina in London - daygame

    Quote Originally Posted by Ra1d View Post
    But then you started asking her permission on the kisses,which looked really weird to her,and she might have changed her mind about you.
    That makes sense. I started with confidence but on the date I probably came across weaker. I suppose I just need a lot of dates to become congruent. As I'm getting more and more numbers and dates I'm becoming less needy.


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