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Thread: Failed Freeze Out

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    Default Failed Freeze Out

    Hi,

    Just wanted to share my latest experience with regards to Freeze Out, and see if anyone has had similar experiences.

    I have been trying off a few pua tool. at the girls at the office. Getting a conversation going is easy, and I get plenty of ioi's. However it has been a bit difficult to move past that stage. Not that I really want to, because I have access to enough better looking girls outside of the office, but as a beginner I am just trying to learn, and to try out the various tools.

    The one that seemed not to work for me was the freeze out. I tried it on one of the girls that for a couple of days, and she started asking me what is wrong, why don't I talk to her anymore etc. But afterwards, I wasn't able to progress with her beyond the stage where we were earlier.

    So I thought I would try with a longer freeze out, and kept it for more than a month. I would not go over to see her. If I met her, I would just nod, and continue. I would go over to the other girls, and chat with them, but if she was there, I would either ignore her, or just leave.

    Now this is what happened:
    - First the other girls would come and ask me why I didn't talk to them. Well the fact is that I did talk to them as much as I did before. But obviously, not talking to that one girl, they saw as not talking to any of them.
    - Then slowly over the next few weeks, the other girls stopped talking to me, so now basically none of the girls in the office talk to me. Even some who were all over me before.

    Now, as I said, I don't really want to sleep with these girls, both because I have access to better looking ones, and because I don't want to have any of them start crying in the office after we break up, but I still want to learn, so if anyone has had similar (or opposite) experiences, please let me know.

    Sofar I am treating the situation as if I haven't noticed. I am still my jolly old self. I am still in a good mood every day.

    Have fun

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    Default Re: Failed Freeze Out

    my rule of thumb is always be social--with the PUA wold the idea of attraction is to simply not give them any special treatment unless they've proved their worth with you.

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    Default Re: Failed Freeze Out

    You were ignoring the girl and then avoiding her, not Freezing Her Out.

    When you leave an interaction in which the girl you are freezing out arrives, you lower your value. That's not the purpose of a Freeze Out; it's supposed to raise your value, not lower it.

    Plus, you're not supposed to ignore everyone like that - that makes you look antisocial and kills any social proof you may have had. Then again, it's a work environment, so you shouldn't be focused on gaming your coworkers

    Caveat - one or two is probably ok
    Always leave her better than you found her.

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    Default Re: Failed Freeze Out

    Thanks for your input guys

    I guess you are right, what I should have done was just to drop our one-on-one interactions, and continued with the bigger groups she was part off, just without giving her attention.

    Any suggestions where I go from here? There is clearly a Freeze-Out war going on between me and the girls and I cringe at the idea of being the one to suggest any ceasefire. I am still social and chatty with the guys, and with the few girls who haven't joined their side of the battle.

    Any good ideas to re-open my way into the bigger group of girls without looking weak? or should I just continue having fun with the guys and the few girls who still seem to like me, and just wait to see if the others come around?



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    Default Re: Failed Freeze Out

    Continue having fun! No question about that.

    With the others, just reopen the ones you feel are the alpha females (group leaders, for lack of a better word) as if nothing happened. The others will come around much faster that way.
    Always leave her better than you found her.

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    Default Re: Failed Freeze Out

    Thinking about it, she probably is the Alpha. Most of the girly chit chat is around her desk, and if she wasn't the Alpha she wouldn't so easily be able to get them all on her side. I know that some of these girls like me a lot, so they would have been happy with her being out of the competition, if it wasn't because she dictates the level of social proof they have.

    Maybe I will try going through the few girls that do talk to me, and then try to gradually pinch away her supporters one by one.

    It is a bit of a hassle, but I am learning a lot

    What do you think?

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    Default Re: Failed Freeze Out

    Dude, this is insane!!! A little learned is such a dangerous thing. You weren't freezing out the girls, as Vicodin said you were ignoring them. And what do you do in order to avoid interacting with people?... you ignore them!

    Girls, guys, people, they all get the same message when you ignore them, "that guy doesn't want to talk to me, possibly because he doesn't like me."

    This thing is farked so sideways it's, as I said above, insane. Forget freezing out, forget social proof, forget every farkin pua technique you have learned. You can come back to those in a few months. You need to work on building friendships and conversational skills with women before you can start employing any techniques. Talk to the girls, talk to all of them. Everyday. If you have fun every day, than they will too, and they'll like you for it.

    Your thinking way, way too far into this. Your situation, where the girls would come and talk to you, sounds way better than a farkin Freeze Out battle. Which is really, just them not liking you, and you ignoring them. TALK TO THE FARKING GIRLS!!! EVERYDAY!!!

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    Default Re: Failed Freeze Out

    Thanks a lot for that reply bballking.

    You are right, I was doing better without any techniques. Thinking about it the whole Freeze Out maybe comes naturally to me anyway. One of my former girlfriends used to freak out if I just left the room for a minute. I wouldn't be upset or anything, I just had something else on my mind, and she always used to ask me if she said something wrong or something.

    Luckily it wasn't my best hunting ground I ruined.


    Thanks a lot again


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